10-12-2018 01:24 AM
Hey,
I want to make sure I am doing the right thing.
If you got a note with a heavy suicidal scent from a buyer saying "I have nothing to live for/I wish I was dead ASAP" - what would you do?
10-12-2018 04:11 PM
10-12-2018 04:15 PM
10-12-2018 04:23 PM
@moondogblues wrote:
"So your local police need to somehow trace it."
OP has the address, this is from a buyer.
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Exactly that was wy my advice was for seller to contact the police in the buyer's hometown. And apparently this was what her local police had her do..
(quoted from OP)
I showed them the msgs and asked for advice, which was to contact her local police department (I'm in CA and she's in a different state). They looked up the number and I called and sent her local police department the relevant information.
10-12-2018 04:30 PM
@nowthatsjustducky wrote:
@or_couture wrote:I see you sell care bears - that's exactly what I need to ship her!
I'd be happy to sell you one. Heavens knows I need all the sales I can get. And it is still early enough in the day, that if you are reading this now, I can even get it in the mail today.
@nowthatsjustducky, do you happen to have a new Care Bear? I wouldn't want to send her a used one.. Thanks
10-12-2018 04:45 PM
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@moms**art**window** wrote:
You were true to yourself and listened to your heart and should stand proud.One time i was in a restaurant someone was choking on some meat people were gathered around trying to do Heimlich maneuver having no luck something just made me run across the room reached down the throat and got that meat out "that quick" it would have been to late for the people that took a course in that kind of thing.I went through something similar. A woman at work was choking in the back room (break room, lunch room) and I came up behind her and did the Heimlich manuever a few times. She was coughing and turning blue. The first few times didn't work but the third time did, I literally picked her up and I would have doubted I could do that. But it flew out, and she was fine and very grateful.
FWIW, Heimlich works on dogs too. I just happened to turn back after tossing the dogs biscuits and saw our cairn terrier (Toto dog) drop unconscious and roll down the back steps. I knew instantly the biscuit was in her throat and got down on the ground with her and grabbed her to me while performing the maneuver. Biscuit popped out she took a huge breath and then grabbed it again so our beagle wouldn't get it. That time I had to pump her under the breast bone, pound her on the back, turn her upside down and then do the Heimlich maneuver again before biscuit popped out. I grabbed the biscuit and threw the whole box of Bonz biscuits away since they were round. Stuck to MilkBones after that!
10-12-2018 05:00 PM
10-12-2018 05:03 PM
10-12-2018 05:11 PM
@ifyouloveit wrote:
Agreed! NEVER take these comments lightly. I've had 3 people who have said this to me, one online, one in a text message and the other through a phone call. I called 911 on all of them. None of them had done anything, yet, just said they wanted to die, didn't want to be here anymore, it doesn't matter what they say, if someone says this, listen.
One person had not done anything (yet) but the police were with him quite awhile, he was very depressed and my call and the police were a wake up to him that someone actually cared. He had it planned out how he was going to do it too, and that night.
The second person it turned out had swallowed an entire bottle of aspirin and washed it down with a glass of Vodka. Police arrived to find him unconscious on the floor. He lived and got his life together again. Hospital had him, then he went to somewhere else, and today he is alive and well.
Sadly, the third the police put on a 3 day Baker hold in the hospital. She told them she was going to kill herself and no one could stop her. They actually released her on day 3, she went home, broke into her neighbors house and stole a gun, went back to her house and shot herself in the head. She was 42.
Please always contact someone. 2 out of my 3 were serious to the point of f taking action, 1 died, the other nearly did. Don't try to handle them yourself, this is crisis situations and need to be handled by trained people. But send help their way, sometimes all they need to know is someone really DOES care and they get in front of the help they need. They reached out by saying what they did, to be rejected, ignored, abandoned, can be the trigger that makes them do it, especially if they believe no one cares.
I'd rather have someone livid angry at me, stalk me, threaten me, than have a death that I may have been able to prevent haunt me forever, and it would. I still ask myself could I have done anything different for the lady who shot herself and died.
Thank you for caring. I always think of all the people in their lives that would be devastated if their loved one killed themselves. They leave behind broken parents, children, friends, relatives, neighbors, it's a terrible thing, I know, I've been there first hand. And I had to see all the people grieve for the lady who did kill herself, horrible. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.
If I had this happen here, I would call eBay and have them get the buyers information and have them contact the police in their area. eBay has it, if they have bought something PayPal has it, they can find who they are. A visit by the police saved the man I called on who didn't do it. He had it planned down to how he was doing it, carbon monoxide by car and pills/booze.
Better safe than sorry. Even doing something won't stop someone who is determined, but most of the time it does stop them.
Hope this person is going to be alright.
Crazy and sad stories :// Thanks for sharing..
10-12-2018 06:34 PM
@coolections wrote:
@gracieallen01 wrote:Are you acquainted with the person? If so, how well and how long? And, what about a 'husband'?
Your posts make me think there is a whole lot more to the story than just a note, out of the blue, to a complete stranger, talking about suicide.
I agree. A random Ebay person who is serious about suicide is not going to just message a complete stranger they've never met. I would have just deleted the message.
Now, just what in my statement/question(s) gave you the idea that I was suggesting to ignore the person or delete the message?
Quite frankly, I wouldn't think that ebay, for a very, very infrequent poster, would be the first place one would come for help, information and/or advice.
For a period in my life, I was a Paramedic and responded to more than one call where it was a 'I think the person is upset', and believe me, it is much better to arrive to find a confused or upset person, than a cold body.
10-12-2018 06:39 PM
@gracieallen01 wrote:
@coolections wrote:
@gracieallen01 wrote:Are you acquainted with the person? If so, how well and how long? And, what about a 'husband'?
Your posts make me think there is a whole lot more to the story than just a note, out of the blue, to a complete stranger, talking about suicide.
I agree. A random Ebay person who is serious about suicide is not going to just message a complete stranger they've never met. I would have just deleted the message.
Now, just what in my statement/question(s) gave you the idea that I was suggesting to ignore the person or delete the message?
Quite frankly, I wouldn't think that ebay, for a very, very infrequent poster, would be the first place one would come for help, information and/or advice.
For a period in my life, I was a Paramedic and responded to more than one call where it was a 'I think the person is upset', and believe me, it is much better to arrive to find a confused or upset person, than a cold body.
I believe the OP explained this - that they private emailed each other and this buyer confided in her.
10-12-2018 06:42 PM
@moondogblues wrote:
"Sadly in this very litigious society I tend to agree. Who knows what confidentiality rules you might violate. My sugggestion would be to CALL EBAY immediately and let them handle the situation. Don't intervene as you could say something to help, but in their altered, drunken or drug addled mental state they could TOTALLY hear something else. I have had this happen in person at bars where I try to help a drunk and then get accused of doing something that I neither said nor did. If they then go on to kill themselves ,then the family could SUE and you may lose everything even though you were trying to help. It is terrible but you really can't risk yours or your family's future by intervening."
The Good Samaritan Law takes over in a situation like this.
Yeah, unfortunately, though that law can save someone, it doeesn't stop many from filing suit in the anyway. And, it won't always cover somebody that helps, but has no idea what they are doing, or how to do it.
10-12-2018 06:51 PM
@emerald40 wrote:I believe the OP explained this - that they private emailed each other and this buyer confided in her.
Yes, the OP did. I hadn't read that far since I got home. Oftimes one turns to the stranger or a lesser known person.
10-12-2018 06:58 PM
Thankfully she confided in someone.
Many don't. And then it is too late.
10-12-2018 07:26 PM
@or_couture wrote:I want to thank anyone who has been participating in the disucssion.
And no, I do not know the person. She bought two items and shared a few details in private msgs, that's it.
You'd be surprised how many msgs I get from strangers sharing details about their family, jobs and what not..
About contacting eBay, it was after the 10pm custmer service cutoff time so there was no one to talk to on Ebay and regardless I felt that with something which might be pressing going to the Police might be the best option.
I showed them the msgs and asked for advice, which was to contact her local police department (I'm in CA and she's in a different state). They looked up the number and I called and sent her local police department the relevant information. When I got back home which was around 1am PST I had second thoughts if I acted like I was supposed to so opened the thread. After 2am PST the police called me and said they reached out to her and that she's OK.
@coolections wrote:
@gracieallen01 wrote:Are you acquainted with the person? If so, how well and how long? And, what about a 'husband'?
Your posts make me think there is a whole lot more to the story than just a note, out of the blue, to a complete stranger, talking about suicide.
I agree. A random Ebay person who is serious about suicide is not going to just message a complete stranger they've never met. I would have just deleted the message.
Personally, I think you did good and well beyond the call of duty. At the time, I found it curious that someone was asking/talking about it with someone 'so distant' - not necessarily just in distance. I have run across stranger, though.
10-13-2018 02:21 AM