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If I was accepting counteroffers, I wouldn't have taken the time and trouble to manually turn off the "Allow Counteroffers" option on each and every one of the offers I sent you.  But thanks for playing, I enjoyed that big waste of time.

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@hartungcards wrote:

If I was accepting counteroffers, I wouldn't have taken the time and trouble to manually turn off the "Allow Counteroffers" option on each and every one of the offers I sent you.  But thanks for playing, I enjoyed that big waste of time.


Ah...........the rabbit hole of offers.  Fun times!


....... "The Ranger isn't gonna like it Yogi"......... Boo-Boo knew what he was talking about!


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@hartungcards wrote:

If I was accepting counteroffers, I wouldn't have taken the time and trouble to manually turn off the "Allow Counteroffers" option on each and every one of the offers I sent you.  But thanks for playing, I enjoyed that big waste of time.


 I take this to be an unsolicited offer to come make unsolicited counter offers to your initial unsolicited offers, and waste more of your time... in an unsolicited way of course! 😋

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Don't understand, you sent an offer a buyer may not want but the buyers are not allowed to return with an offer they may want to give. You then said you turned off counteroffers, why did you turn on offers?

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@coolections wrote:

Don't understand, you sent an offer a buyer may not want but the buyers are not allowed to return with an offer they may want to give. You then said you turned off counteroffers, why did you turn on offers?


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OP Does not have "Make Offer" on. He is sending offers to buyers on his BIN only listings. He turned off the counter offer feature on this offer he sent out. The buyers are now messaging him with counter offers since they can't counter offer through the offer he sent.

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Every offer I have ever received had a button that said make counteroffer. I didn't realize the seller can make it to not include a counteroffer. Even with that said why would the OP think he can send of an offer but not allow a counteroffer. Bartering should always go both ways.

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@coolections wrote:

Every offer I have ever received had a button that said make counteroffer. I didn't realize the seller can make it to not include a counteroffer. Even with that said why would the OP think he can send of an offer but not allow a counteroffer. Bartering should always go both ways.


Yes, when seller sends an unsolicited offer out, to those who watched or have viewed multiple times, their listings, the seller can turn off the option for the buyer to send a counter offer back.

 

Why would the OP think he can send an offer but not allow a counter offer? Well, that's like asking why does anyone think they can list the item as "Buy it Now" without enabling "Make Offers". Because the OP knows what he wants to take. Sending an offer to an interested buyer, when the listing doesn't have offers enabled already, is like sending a private discount. He isn't opening it to negotiation. He is saying, I'm putting it on sale, for 5% off, act now or lose it. Why should he be obligated to take or hear your counter offer? If he is unwilling to entertain your counter offer, why should he give you the illusion he is willing to entertain it?

 

No one is obligated to entertain anyone else's offers. Putting an item up on ebay and then marking it 10% off doesn't open the door for people to try to negotiate it to 20% off if the seller isn't accepting offers. What's the difference here??

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Marking an item for 10% off and sending an unsolicited offer (bartering) is apples and oranges. If you do not like counteroffers IMO do not send offers.  Just lower your price with a sale for all to see. The other option is make a listing with offers enabled then use auto accept/decline.

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If I make an offer, I always turn off the counter offer option.  Either buy it or don't.  I won't answer unsolicited offers, I don't have to. 

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Whether you have make offers,turned on or off, ebay will send you items to send an offer on anyway, The same with if you don't except returns ebay has you covered, You cant do anything without ebay having a countered way to reverse it

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Something that some could be missing here is the discount being targeted for the private offer vs being advertised to both competition and buyers when lowering your listing price. As we all know, the send offers option goes to buyers that are watching/interested in the listing and the private offer can be sent via messages when a specific buyer is interested.

 

In both cases, they go to interested buyers only and not advertised to the entire market.

 

If the listings offer option is off, you cannot send offers to watchers but you can send offers to interested buyers messaging you. If you have it on, you can choose to send offers with the option to counteroffer or not.

 

Sometimes you just have limitations on your overall inventory, but you wouldn't mind a few extra sales at a slightly different profit margin. Many sellers prefer that one-off private discount to interested buyers, rather than lowering the entire listing price and making that price available to everyone. By lowering the listing and not sending an offer, the affect could be that competition lowers their listing prices also and drives the overall market down, tightening margins.

 

It may not be a big deal if you have a small inventory, but if you have a large qty of something, if you send a discount, for example, of $5 to 10 buyers, and 4 accept. You have 4 extra sales, making $20 less, but limiting the maximum difference to making $50 less if 10 were to accept (simply an example, not meant to be large numbers).

 

Lowering the listing price may also get sales, but if there is no difference in sale frequency and then you lose an extra $5 per order without it increasing the frequency of sales, then it could in turn hurt you in the long run as you make less and you do not create cash flow any quicker.

 

If you drive the market down prematurely instead of naturally let the pricing come down, in the end you could be your own detriment. Selling 50 qty of something at $5 less would net a $250 difference. Maybe that new calculated margin percentage is too small for the risk that one took for their business. However,  selling 40 qty at "X" amount and the other 10 qty for $50 less in total, in 1/2 time it would have taken to sell the other 10, could be a better trade off. Especially if the market price stays the same and you could go purchase more of that inventory knowing, at least for now, that the price is still the same.  

 

At least in our experience being in saturated categories (but would assume it would apply whether saturated category or not), keeping your listing price the same and sending private offers to watchers / specific buyers can get you extra sales, while not hurting your overall margin factors you have calculated when purchasing your inventory. Nobody likes a race to the bottom in listing pricing between competition. So it's a better way to protect your initial strategy.... at least from our experience.

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@hartungcards wrote:

If I was accepting counteroffers, I wouldn't have taken the time and trouble to manually turn off the "Allow Counteroffers" option on each and every one of the offers I sent you.  But thanks for playing, I enjoyed that big waste of time.


How many unsolicited counteroffers did you get for the unsolicited offers that you sent, and how much time did you spend clicking "decline"?

 

 

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Sounds like much ado about nothing tbh

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