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I've read several articles already that warn sellers that Ebay provides lots of ways for scammers to get the item and their money back and with few exceptions the seller is out of luck. You either have the good fortune to be dealing with an honest buyer or you don't and that's a gamble that you take.  What I'm curious about is how this works if you personally deliver the item.  If you personally hand a customer an item, they inspect it, agree it matches the description and make payment, can they still lie to Ebay later on and file a SNAD claim?

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When selling a local pickup only item, eBay requires a QR code be used now when the buyer picks up the item. Here is the policy explaining how it works (one link is for buyers, the other for sellers):

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/postage-delivery/changing-delivery-address-method/local-pickup?id=4...

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/posting-items/setting-postage-options/local-pickup?id=4181

 

Essentially, eBay generates the code and sends it to the buyer, who shows it to the seller at pick up to prove item has been “delivered”. The seller inputs the code on eBay. The seller must have it to combat an Item Not Received claim. But if the buyer claims Item Not Described, it is processed like any other eBay NAD case. Even if they pay you in cash. See the policy for sellers for more info. It states:

 

Returns for local pickup listings should be treated the same as other delivery options. If the buyer returns an item because it's faulty or it isn't as described in the listing, they can return it to you even if your return policy states you don't accept returns.”

 

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Not if you take payment via any method Ebay doesn't have their hands in. Cash.

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Never sell anything you can't afford to lose. 

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Yes.  It still could either Defective after the sale or Counterfeit. They have up to 180 days after delivery of said item to file a claim.

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I don't think you'll find a single seller who can give you an absolutely, positively  "you should have no worries" answer here.

 

But I don't think you're expecting that... since you even acknowledge, "You either have the good fortune to be dealing with an honest buyer or you don't and that's a gamble that you take." Godspeed.

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I would add to @simba6 statement to include "on eBay". If you're that worried and it's a very high value item, I'd just list it locally and only accept cash. Any time you sell through eBay, even if you are paid with cash, you're subject to their rules, and fees.

And as @doug_5857  said, PayPal and most credit card companies give their customers 180 days to file a dispute.


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@xwicked1 wrote:

If you personally hand a customer an item, they inspect it, agree it matches the description and make payment, can they still lie to Ebay later on and file a SNAD claim?


If the payment is processed through eBay or Paypal or a credit card, the buyer can file a dispute with eBay or Paypal or the credit card. 

 

But not if the customer personally hands you cash before you personally hand him the item. 

 

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The sell locally cash only option when you list your item would be a pretty safe way for a new seller on here to not get scammed. However, make sure you meet in a safe place or have an armed quard with you.

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You either have the good fortune to be dealing with an honest buyer or you don't and that's a gamble that you take. 

 

No truer words.  Not that everything in life isn't a gamble depending on the day or the circumstances.

 

I imagine Buyers read these boards just like anyone else.  Every time someone posts about how they were scammed, I always wonder who is reading that we just handed the Keys to the Castle to.....

 

OTOH, I have found that either people are honest or they are not.  No middle ground.  Good luck!


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When selling a local pickup only item, eBay requires a QR code be used now when the buyer picks up the item. Here is the policy explaining how it works (one link is for buyers, the other for sellers):

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/postage-delivery/changing-delivery-address-method/local-pickup?id=4...

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/posting-items/setting-postage-options/local-pickup?id=4181

 

Essentially, eBay generates the code and sends it to the buyer, who shows it to the seller at pick up to prove item has been “delivered”. The seller inputs the code on eBay. The seller must have it to combat an Item Not Received claim. But if the buyer claims Item Not Described, it is processed like any other eBay NAD case. Even if they pay you in cash. See the policy for sellers for more info. It states:

 

Returns for local pickup listings should be treated the same as other delivery options. If the buyer returns an item because it's faulty or it isn't as described in the listing, they can return it to you even if your return policy states you don't accept returns.”

 

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They can always say that they never got it...

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Reasoning with eBay, as to why a buyer shouldn't scam you, is tantamount to reasoning with a shark, as to why it shouldn't attack you-

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@xwicked1 wrote:

I've read several articles already that warn sellers that Ebay provides lots of ways for scammers to get the item and their money back and with few exceptions the seller is out of luck. You either have the good fortune to be dealing with an honest buyer or you don't and that's a gamble that you take.  What I'm curious about is how this works if you personally deliver the item.  If you personally hand a customer an item, they inspect it, agree it matches the description and make payment, can they still lie to Ebay later on and file a SNAD claim?


Like 101dolphns stated "CASH".  Any eBay seller can be a potential SCAM victim.  Probably newer or sellers who don't sell too often have a better chance of getting scammed.  Scammers like car prowlers, like to go after the EASY targets.  High priced electronics is a BIG target for scammers, like flies on S---T. eBay with their buyer friendly treatment makes it a target rich environment for scammers.... as the scammer's motto is: FREE IS A VERY GOOD PRICE. 😲 

 

BTW, if Youtube has tons of vids of eBay scams not to fall for / avoid, then you know SCAMS are rampant on eBay.

 

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wooo

 

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pick up only has to take online payments as well as cash:

You still can get ripped of with this...

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