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Local Pickup: Why purchase before pickup? Defeats purpose.

The whole point of local pickup is the buyer meet seller, inspects item, and then purchases it.  That way there are no disputes.

 

But it seems that is not the case.

 

So how does it work?

 

Any what about the option to accept cash payment?

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@susanb1872 wrote:

The only reason I would use local pickup for a sale is if something was too large or too heavy to ship and I would require payment up front. I agree with @electrola_man , it's not always about inspection, etc. However, if they were not satisfied with it at the time of pickup, I would allow the buyer to back out.


@susanb1872  another good reason some might consider Cash at pick up is for a high value items where they do not want to risk getting scammed through the venue or risk a credit card charge back down the road.  While that approach may limit potential Buyers it eliminates the risk of losing the money from the sale.

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Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor
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"The whole point of local pickup is the buyer meet seller, inspects item, and then purchases it.  That way there are no disputes."

Then why would Ebay sponsor a free marketplace? Do you think everyone that would use your option would actually pay taxes and credit the sale through Ebay specifically, cash exchanges. I think not.

 

If you want to offer local pick-up w/o paying fees etc. you would need to use another method maybe like FBM but I heard FBM will start charging to list items.

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I know several sellers who do local pick-up.  They have a booth at a local antique mall and the item is left there, the buyer can pick up at their convenience - the seller just drops it off, lets the buyer know it's there.  The two don't have the make an appointment.

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There should be no inspection of the item at the pick-up as a condition for completion of the sale. The time for that has already passed.

Basically I agree, but the ability to make a last minute decision that the transaction should not take place is still possible and is an advantage for both buyer and seller.

some might consider Cash at pick up is for a high value items where they do not want to risk getting scammed through the venue or risk a credit card charge back down the road.

And the QR code allows the seller to prove that the transaction did in fact take place, while making chargebacks very difficult .

It does mean that taxes will have to be paid -- by someone.

 

They have a booth at a local antique mall and the item is left there,

When we had a shop, I often did this with my own products as well as those sold under this name.

It worked very well. Much better than the "meet at 11:03 under the clock at the corner of Hollywood and Vine" system, because the shop was open from 10 to 5 Monday to Saturday.

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everyone that would use your option would actually pay taxes and credit the sale through Ebay

 

The QR code takes care of that too. The taxes and fees are paid or the QR code is void.

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Accepting a cash payment works a million times better for the sellers.

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While Local Pickup is a substitute for Shipping, if the Buyer is paying in Cash I would think That is the time for inspection.  A buyer simply handing over cash and taking a sealed box without inspection just doesn't make any sense.

Regarding Cash payment, there used to be a Special Statement that had to be in the description that did not violate eBay rules because you Have to accept Paypal if the Buyer wishes to pay that way.  I think it was something to the effect, "Contact seller if you want to pay in cash" - in other words, Seller may want cash, but the Buyer can use Paypal if they want - and they may want to so they can file a SNAD at any time After they Local Pickup.  At least that was the way it was done a few years ago. 

All this QR code stuff is new to me and a real PITA since I do all eBay on PC Win10.  The eBay Android app is not intuitive and completely different than the PC experience.   

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Up until a few years ago, that was how it worked:  There was a way to ask for cash but Seller still had to accept Paypal.  There was (and evidently is) no system in place to pay the sales tax when a cash sale.  If Seller is a business all the tax collecting is in place.  Hum, I know when you make a sale on eBay, you are charged for fees and tax - I would expect that still occurs with a cash payment, but I'm just guessing.  It would make sense though.

Facebook Market Place may start charging, but maybe not since Craigslist does not.  CL is a better platform, the # of scammers on FB is incredible.  But, people just love FB so they may simply start charging.  I do know that if you ship and there is a problem, it is not possible to contact a human being at FB to solve the problem.   Who can say what will happen.

 

 

 

 

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

There should be no inspection of the item at the pick-up as a condition for completion of the sale. The time for that has already passed.

Basically I agree, but the ability to make a last minute decision that the transaction should not take place is still possible and is an advantage for both buyer and seller.  Mr L:  I agree that an inspection of the item can also change the Buyer's desire to follow through with the transaction.  I am sure that is rare but THAT is how I view this aspect of Local Pick up AND taking cash instead of a purchase thru the venue.

some might consider Cash at pick up is for a high value items where they do not want to risk getting scammed through the venue or risk a credit card charge back down the road.

And the QR code allows the seller to prove that the transaction did in fact take place, while making chargebacks very difficult .

It does mean that taxes will have to be paid -- by someone.  Mr. L: Two points here - first, for myself I have a state tax ID so I have a nexus to report and pay the State Says tax on a cash transaction via Local Pick up and I would also report the sale on my annual Schedule C along with other sales outside venues that issue 1099K statements.  BUT I know there are many Sellers who do not do either of those things.  I would also have to say that the vast majority of sales on eBay are NOT done via Local Pick up so I think eBay allows that option to stumble about without a lot of attention to it.

Next, the QR code (and/or 6 digit code emailed to Buyers) is nice if the Buyer is tech savvy and knowledgeable on doing that OR is required to remember to bring it.  My last L-P the Buyer was over 75 years old, said he saw "something" about a code but at the pick up he did not have it, just a wad of cash.  ... so for many Buyers the eBay QR code and 6 digit emailed code are an absolute FAIL ... asking Buyers to remember that simply complicates an otherwise simple transaction and in my view DOES NOT ENHANCE THE BUYING EXPERIENCE on iota ... period.  I have advocated for the Mark as Paid and Mark as Shipped by the Seller should be equal to the QR & 6 digit code.

 

They have a booth at a local antique mall and the item is left there,

When we had a shop, I often did this with my own products as well as those sold under this name.

It worked very well. Much better than the "meet at 11:03 under the clock at the corner of Hollywood and Vine" system, because the shop was open from 10 to 5 Monday to Saturday. Mr. L:  That's a nice set up ... everyone who does L-P has their own process.  My L-Ps are so infrequent that I use a local convenience store 2 miles away.  That's extra nice for the customer in case they have to use the rest room or want a drink for their ride home ... 


 

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@ms.rodriguez* 

Yes.

The 'grey economy' is certainly a thing.

No records. No taxes.

 

There is a downside for buyers though.

A UID is possible, though very unlikely.

And there being no proof of payment (without that QR code), problems with NAD would be difficult to resolve.

 

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Finally!  Someone gives the answer that is needed. 
I also thought it was just for convenience instead of charging shipping, when they lived down the street (which has happened to me.) But all the things people are saying about them being able to inspect the item, I think is incorrect.

 I also thought it should be no different than if the item were shipped.  
They saw the description, they asked all their questions, they purchase via PayPal etc., they pick it up and they take it home.
If it’s not as described, then they can contact the seller,  just as if it were shipped to them. 
I’m not keen on having to unbox and unwrap everything so someone can look at it and they change their mind.🙄

So I started wondering, should I only offer local pick up for NRFB items and avoid the return process altogether?

I finally decided, unless it’s a huge item that would be difficult to ship, I’m just going to sell everything with shipping and if someone lives down the street, they can contact me and I can refund the shipping cost (or something to that effect) via eBay.

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"someone lives down the street, they can contact me and I can refund the shipping cost (or something to that effect) via eBay."

 

The only problem with that is, unless you have local pick up as an option too, you have no way to provide Ebay with the tracking number to prove delivery, so you can get paid. You would need to cancel the transaction, relist it with pick up only, have the buyer receive the QR code and scan it when he picks the item up for proof of delivery.



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Another reason fragile items.

I had my first QR code pick-up for a high value and very fragile item  recently . Older buyer, walked him through how to find the QR code. Worked out fine.  He contacted me before buying asking if pick-up was possible and I added pick-up option before he paid so the shipping was not charged automatically. Total relief for me... not having to pack and worry about a safe arrival.

CDM Antiques
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@tomatbay wrote:

The whole point of local pickup is the buyer meet seller, inspects item, and then purchases it.  That way there are no disputes.


Nope. The whole point of local pickup is avoiding packing and shipping and the costs associated with it. The goals of the Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist might be more extensive.
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I misspoke, yes the whole point is to not pack and ship BUT what I meant to say:  The transaction is identical to buying from classified ad in newspaper where you inspect item when you pick it up - the main concern is someone picks up the item, takes it home, and claims SNAD - that reeks of fraud.


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