Item Removed

[jet0653]

I have yet had another item removed per eBay's Firearms, Weapons, and Knives policy, it was for a pair of US Military Wool Glove inserts. When I call and talk to a rep, they now tell me it after being on hold that the listing was removed by DOD. Thats the second time over the past year that eBay uses that excuse. I just don't understand how a pair of glove inserts goes against DOD polices.

[emerald40]

I cannot find anything on why they cannot be sold.  All I could find was an ebay thread on why they are so sought after and sell well.

But all that does not matter a bit.  It has been taken down twice.  You may not be so lucky the 3rd time around.  That item is now toxic.  Do not list it again here.

[18704d]

I tried to Google and found some described as having a "trigger finger shell".

Since I can't view your listing, I'm not sure how you described it.

In the above case, perhaps the word "trigger" made it seem to the bots like a military gun part which isn't allowed here?

Again boardies, I did Not find the OP's listing.

Google showed comparable descriptions from other listings.

I'm just wondering if there wasn't something that confused the bots?

Thanks

Lynn

[lacemaker3]

@18704d, I found this listing in the OP's completed items, which appears to be for the item that @jet0653 described:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-US-Military-Army-USMC-CW-Lightweight-Brown-Wool-Glove-Inserts-Sz-XL-/1...

This listing ended about a week ago, and has been relisted, but the relisted one is not available anymore. So it was apparently the relist that was removed. The description is likely to be the same. I don't see anything in the description about "trigger finger", so I guess that's not it (good guess, though).

One difference that I can see between the listing that was removed on relist, and this similar item OP has listed, is that the one that was removed said the gloves were "military issue" and the one that is still live just says "military".

I wonder if this is the problem. By some interpretations, things that are "military issue" still belong to the military, and not to the soldier they were issued to. So if they were sold, then they could be considered stolen.

OP does have several other listings that say "military issue" in the titles. So this may not be the problem, or if it is, then the other listings are also in danger.

[allamericanauctionsusa2020]

Hello 

need some help : I just got a 3 day suspension for violation of Firearms, Weapons, and Knives

I try very hard not to list any of my Military that is a Policy Violation : When we called ebay , the only thing they can tell me is DOD took these down, All I wanted was the answer of what was it I did wrong, and please tell me what I did wrong so I dont do it again . Im worried as I am a single Mom and my ebay store is my only source of income. All I want is to not have anymore violations . Any Experts out there ? Freaking Out . below is the list of items that I was in violation of .

252696780248 - DCU Cold Weather Desert Field JACKET w/ Hood Medium Short Coat & LINER
253074173721 - M-65 MILITARY COLD WEATHER WOODLAND BDU HOODED FIELD SMALL REGULAR COAT & LINER
 OD GREEN US ARMY COMBAT VEHICLE CREWMEN's COVERALLS Hood / Balaclava ONE SIZE
 DCU Cold Weather Desert Field Hooded SMALL R Zip Up CLASS 4 Coat JACKET & LINER
DCU Cold Weather Desert Field Coat Hooded SMALL LONG JACKET & LINER
 M-65 DCU Cold Weather Desert Field Hooded JACKET Medium Long Coat & LINER
 DCU Cold Weather Desert 3 Color Field Hooded JACKET Medium Long Coat W LINER
DCU Cold Weather Medium Long Desert Three Color Field Hooded JACKET Coat W LINER
M-65 DCU Cold Weather Desert Field Hooded Medium Long Coat JACKET & LINER Pre-owned USGI Single Pair Military 5 Finger Glove Insert CW Lightweight Wool 

Catherine

[emerald40]

You were flagged they were not, yet.

We see this all the time.

Answer is the same.  Does not matter.  You are now on their radar.  If you relist again, you could get permanently banned.

[lacemaker3]

@jet0653, this is interesting.

Here is another thread started since yours, about having "military" items removed. And another seller has posted on both threads.

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Seller-Hub/All-Government-Surplus-and-Military-listings-being-removed/...

This thread referred to wool glove liners specifically, and "government issue", the other post showed a list of titles removed, which included wool glove liners.

Somebody mentioned a thread discussing the wool glove liners, and explaining why they sold so well. Maybe the government has discovered that these items are going missing too often, and they are issuing too many of them to be accounted for by just the soldiers using them.

This makes me think that it is indeed the "military issue" problem. Things that are issued to soldiers, are for their use only, not for resale. If the items were acquired legitimately through military surplus stores, then they should be OK to sell, but you would have to make that clear, and I don't know how that could be proved. And, it is still possible if the government is cracking down on theft of military issue items for resale, then it might be better to find other items to sell.

[jet0653]

I have sold military items for years, as I am a retired army 1SG, so that my much, I have only a couple of listings removed, some I understand, but this one and another I had in the past, both eBay DOD removed, with no reasoning behind it. You would thing if eBay is suppose to be working closely with the DOD, there would be better guidelines. But all I get is DOD removed it, again doesn’t make since, for standard glove inserts.

[emerald40]

It does not make sense probably because the cs made it up.  We have seen this before where they will give you advice to get you off the phone.

But again it does not matter.  If ebays says no, you had better listen or you will be putting yourself in jeopardy.

An example - In my early days I once had an antique jewelry box removed because I used the word ivory.  Well it was white, but that word got flagged.  it happens.  Do not try to make sense of it just move on.

[18704d]

I did some googling, and it appears the DOD can, and does take down listings.

First, here is eBay's policy:

Military items policy
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/military-items-policy?id=4342

This link has a lot to read, and it also points to a couple links to DOD websites which describe items not to be resold.. for the reasons that the items are on the US Munitions List  .. or .. the items were "issued" items which the DOD may still consider US property (which should have been turned in by the servicemember).

And yes.. the links are Long pages to read...

but

I wonder if the word "military" could be a trigger for some takedowns?

M-64 field jackets shouldn't be a violation, one would think.

?

Lynn