Fraudulent buyer

[lyrrad118_1]

eBay allowed a fraudulent buyer to get my $900 iPhone 8 Plus 256, and won’t back up its garuntee for the cost of the phone, so ebays garuntee to sellers is basically worthless . Darryl.

[dktoss]

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@lyrrad118_1  is this the account you used to sell the phone?

How did the buyer get your info to send you the fake paypal mail? 

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OP’s eBay ID and PayPal email are nearly identical. It would have been easy to guess.

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I'd bet that same email was sent to about a dozen variations of the email address.

[vintagecraze50]

From what I gather so far--this was a fake Pay Pal payment sent on the op's mobile device. Common scam. The other possible issue is that somehow the op got duped by someone wanted to sell outside of Ebay. Now, do we all feel better about the constant warnings we get from Ebay about doing business outside of Ebay. This would be a prime example of what can go terribly wrong if this is what happened to the OP. And , in any case, I feel bad for them.

[thatsallfolks]

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@lyrrad118_1  is this the account you used to sell the phone?

How did the buyer get your info to send you the fake paypal mail? 

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OP’s eBay ID and PayPal email are nearly identical. It would have been easy to guess.

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I'd bet that same email was sent to about a dozen variations of the email address.

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Exactly.

[pvcliff]

This happens every week. We see multiple posts where new folks have been enticed in to sell their expensive phones and then bamboozled into shipping before receiving payment. And we see only the tip of the ice berg from the poor souls who manage to find their way to this board. SHAME SHAME ON EBAY for not having a warning telling people that bogus PayPal messages are rampant in the electronics category and giving them a clue as to what to look out for. This is unconscionable!

[touchdownarkansas]

It is obviously a fake email. Real business people don't write like that. Scammers do. I couldn't believe some of the c r ap that I got from scammers when I tried to sell on Craigslist. They are persistent little suckers too- they don't give up easily. That is why I don't sell on CL anymore.

[vintagecraze50]

Every new seller trying to sell these phones needs to take a tutorial on how to avoid being scammed. Yes, many folks are totally unaware of how these scams work and they need to be forewarned, somehow. The problem is, If you were new and told that you would possibly get scammed selling these would you even attempt it? Probably not.

[byrd69er]

My dog would recognize that as being fake.

[thatsallfolks]

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This happens every week. We see multiple posts where new folks have been enticed in to sell their expensive phones and then bamboozled into shipping before receiving payment. And we see only the tip of the ice berg from the poor souls who manage to find their way to this board. SHAME SHAME ON EBAY for not having a warning telling people that bogus PayPal messages are rampant in the electronics category and giving them a clue as to what to look out for. This is unconscionable!

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It’s very likely that the OP circumvented an eBay security feature (email/ID similarity restrictions), allowing the scam to take place. 

[castlemagicmemories]

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Ok, scrap what I said earlier.  Buyer did not mark paid.

They sent you a paid message through Ebay messaging, but it was fake.  

You still needed to check your Paypal account.  

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But OP is saying they got an email from PayPal. We’re trying to hit a moving target here.

It seems so, that'sallfolks, but I think the OP got a fake Paypal message through the Ebay message system, thought it was the real thing, and acted accordingly.  The only other thing would be if it were a real Paypal message, payment was an echeck, and the buyer cancelled it, which has been occuring as evidenced by threads in recent months, but you probably already know that.  

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[castlemagicmemories]

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That is not a legit PayPal email. Some one sent you a spoof...

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Yes, an obvious fake.  Look at the spelling and grammatical errors throughout.

[lyrrad118_1]

Apparently I don’t know all the things to look out for. I know not to sell outside of eBay.  I consider myself an intelligent person, but apparently I don’t know the ins and outs of these scammers. I take the blame for the result. But that doesn’t reduce the pain. To the contributor who said their dog would know its a fake.  That’s a mean classless remark. Kind of reminds me of Trumps twitter posts.

[thatsallfolks]

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Ok, scrap what I said earlier.  Buyer did not mark paid.

They sent you a paid message through Ebay messaging, but it was fake.  

You still needed to check your Paypal account.  

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But OP is saying they got an email from PayPal. We’re trying to hit a moving target here.

It seems so, that'sallfolks, but I think the OP got a fake Paypal message through the Ebay message system, thought it was the real thing, and acted accordingly.  The only other thing would be if it were a real Paypal message, payment was an echeck, and the buyer cancelled it, which has been occuring as evidenced by threads in recent months, but you probably already know that.  

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OP already posted the (very bad) fake PayPal email. OP even stated it was an email. This doesn’t fit the profile of the echeck payments that never clear.

[castlemagicmemories]

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Apparently I don’t know all the things to look out for. I know not to sell outside of eBay.  I consider myself an intelligent person, but apparently I don’t know the ins and outs of these scammers. I take the blame for the result. But that doesn’t reduce the pain. To the contributor who said their dog would know its a fake.  That’s a mean classless remark. Kind of reminds me of Trumps twitter posts.

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OP, I applaud your character and integrity in this world where many never take responsibility or admit when they are wrong, preferring to blame others.

My heart goes out to you that you suffered such a large monetary loss.  It's sad that people do this to one another; you are a victim.  You had not had this experience before or been aware of what could happen; that doesn't make you stupid, just innocent and naive.  You are wiser now.  

I wish there was some way you could get your money back.  

[thatsallfolks]

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Apparently I don’t know all the things to look out for. I know not to sell outside of eBay.  I consider myself an intelligent person, but apparently I don’t know the ins and outs of these scammers. I take the blame for the result. But that doesn’t reduce the pain. To the contributor who said their dog would know its a fake.  That’s a mean classless remark. Kind of reminds me of Trumps twitter posts.

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@lyrrad118_1

When you created your eBay account, did you try to use the name “lyrrad118”?

[castlemagicmemories]

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Ok, scrap what I said earlier.  Buyer did not mark paid.

They sent you a paid message through Ebay messaging, but it was fake.  

You still needed to check your Paypal account.  

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But OP is saying they got an email from PayPal. We’re trying to hit a moving target here.

It seems so, that'sallfolks, but I think the OP got a fake Paypal message through the Ebay message system, thought it was the real thing, and acted accordingly.  The only other thing would be if it were a real Paypal message, payment was an echeck, and the buyer cancelled it, which has been occuring as evidenced by threads in recent months, but you probably already know that.  

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OP already posted the (very bad) fake PayPal email. OP even stated it was an email. This doesn’t fit the profile of the echeck payments that never clear.

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My apologies.  As my post right after the one you question shows, I then saw the fake Paypal email and everything was clear.  But thank you.