Fraud

[jujmc.us.29jzih]

My name is Julie. I've been having trouble finding a place to email this.  My daughter's husband was listing an item for a seller thinking that he could make some additional income.  He listed a watch and did receive a payment so he thought this was legitimate.  The person asked him to use friends and family for payment.  My daughter and her husband found out that this person didn't send the watch and they were turned over to collections for $8600.  My daughter is 22 and needless to say does not have money.  Her husband was mortified that he fell for this and wouldn't let her tell anyone so this has just sat in collections since it happened.  I don't know what to do or if there is anything we can do.  If there is someone that we can contact for help on this please let me know.  This is just going to continue to ruin their credit and we certainly don't have the money to pay it.  I understand this is certainly a horrible lesson but this is so wrong.  If anyone knows who I should contact at Ebay, please let me know.

Thanks

[missjen831]

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@coolectionswrote:

@missjen831The buyer does not need to know what happened. They buyer purchased an expensive item and had to get paypal to step in because he was a victim of a crime. Paid big $$ and did not receive his item.

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That’s a civil issue as you’ve been told. The buyer was refunded so law enforcement will not get involved as far as the buyer is concerned. 

[takikawa4]

Some schools may not teach the basics. My grandniece's school does. She's now in 4th grade and has been taught - without the internet, spell check, etc. - how to read, spell, and arithmetic.

[sam9876]

The buyer has not been defrauded.

eBay has not been defrauded .

[sockmonkeydave]

@emerald40

What I don't get is why people are calling SIL a guy

I like a nice Vera Wang, but I am still a man.

[rainbowcolorz]

@city*satins wrote: 

Anyway - the best thing anyone can do when faced with statements contrary to the facts one previously understood to be true is to either:

1.  disbelieve it out of hand

2. do some research

I recommend 2. but recognize that it may be unpalatable to many.

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Thank you for your very informative and interesting post.  

[emerald40]

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@sockmonkeydavewrote:

@emerald40

What I don't get is why people are calling SIL a guy

I like a nice Vera Wang, but I am still a man.

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What else would SIL stand for but son in law in this case?

[rainbowcolorz]

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@emerald40wrote:

Schools no longer teach the basics.  They think it is a waste of time because kids can just look it up on the Internet.

Spell check - Kids today cannot spell because they have become so reliant on spell check.  Then when they go for a job and try to fill out an application, it is filled with mistakes.

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Forget about kids.  Adults today can't spell and many don't use or even know how to use spell-check. 

[sockmonkeydave]

@emerald40

oops my bad I don't know why I read sister in law.

I just woke from a nap...

[missjen831]

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@emerald40wrote:

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@sockmonkeydavewrote:

@emerald40

What I don't get is why people are calling SIL a guy

I like a nice Vera Wang, but I am still a man.

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What else would SIL stand for but son in law in this case?

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I think SIL usually is for sister-in-law. But I think, and i need to go back and check, that the OP said it was her daughter and son in law?I thought it was her son and daughter in law but like I said, I need to re-read the OP because this is confusing lol. SIL can also be son in law but I think most people are used to seeing it used for sister in law.

edited to add-read the OP again and its her daughter and son in law so SIL=son in law.

[lacemaker3]

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@sockmonkeydavewrote:

@emerald40

What I don't get is why people are calling SIL a guy

I like a nice Vera Wang, but I am still a man.

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In this case, I think SIL means Son In Law, not Sister In Law.

Poor guy got taken in by the Money Mule scam. This has been known on eBay since before 2005 (although by a different name back then). Still going strong now. I googled Money Mule and found a bunch of recent news stories, that indicate they are now targeting university students for this scam. Young adults, with big budget-crunches, just like the OP's daughter and son-in-law.

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Trust-Safety-Safe-Harbor/Today-s-Scams-In-Progress/td-p/107691...

It has been happening for so long, and there is no reason to think that it has stopped, or will anytime soon. As long as the scam continues to work, the scammers will continue to search out victims, on eBay and elsewhere.

It's very sad that people are still being taken in by this, but I think it is even more sad that so many people are so mean, disbelieving and condescending towards the victims who have lost so much to these scammers.

They deserve help, not scorn. Although there is so little  real help available. At least we should be able to give them sympathy, and not be judgemental.

[missjen831]

responded to the wrong comment! my bad

[sockmonkeydave]

@lacemaker3

Years ago, wife and I were getting ready for work and the phone rings.

She says it's a guy calling about pillows I bought.

I get on the phone and he is talking about pillows my wife bought.

I had fun with that guy, but I never gave him my CC number.

[emerald40]

The OP refers to him as her daughter's husband.

I think it is posters here who started typing in SIL.

[the_fancy_fox]

Julie,

Unless your Son in Law knows where this person is and can take them to court, its a bad lesson learned. If hes telling your daughter not to tell anyone, well theres other issues there going on as well.

Perhaps they can make payments. Yes this will wreck their credit. Sooner or later they can fix it.  Especially at their young age. Maybe a second job?

Its a hard life lesson. Let them learn it. He got into this mess, he needs to get himself out of if. Other than offering advice, you should not get involved at the level where you go into debt to pay it off.

The only person that needs to be contacted is the creditor to see if payments can be arranged.

[*madison]

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@emerald40wrote:

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@turquoisetulipswrote:

As far ad Mother Teresa, never heard of what you said about her.  In fact it is very contrary to what I always thought.  Will have to do some research on her to respond further. emerald to city - unquote ---------------

I've never heard of those charges either and I consider myself a pretty avid reader . I'm not catholic but I do have a deep respect for someone who gave her whole  life  to serve the sick and the needy . Tulips 

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I am Jewish but my husband is Catholic and he never heard of anything negative about her either.

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For decades in the UK there was negative rumours about her, but I don't think any of it was actually backed up with concrete evidence, so I don't know if any of the rumours were true.