@dentalrprtek2012 wrote:Ebay is full of scammers and these forums are full of ebay employees and cheerleaders for ebay.
eBay employees must identify themselves as such or face 'enforcement' up to being fired. So I doubt the boards are "full" of employees.
And a lot of what people call "cheerleaders" are just sellers who figured out how to make it work for them. And nothing is as annoying as having someone tell you it's easy to do something you are having a very hard time doing. It's just not something you want to hear - so the name-calling begins.
I'm not exactly what would be termed a 'cheerleader' -- I'm basically too cynical for that, and having as much experience in IT as I do, I sort of enjoy ripping down the curtain and showing folks that it's not really magic, it's just flaky computer programming, myopic design, and sloppy installation. True - it's not all bad... but when it is, it's major. And to have the venue continually deny things are happening when we all can see they are... that's just stupid.
eBay does have it's share of scammers - but so does Amazon, and so do B&M retailers. It's a fact of retail that the retailer has to keep the buyer coming back until they finally cost the retailer more in lost profits & expenses than they make up in true purchases. If a venue/store makes you jump thru a dozen background checks, id checks, blood-type checks, DNA checks, and facial recognition checks.... you're simply more likely to go to the store next door that has the same or very similar products without all the hassle. And while it might be "cool" to be able to say that you are allowed to purchase at that terribly AR store, it probably won't take you long to realize that someone has to pay for all those checks.... and the only one bringing money into the store is you. Ding ding ding ding ding - give that person a prize!
It bites and we all wish it would stop, but the simple fact is that a few people have been stealing from everyone else since the beginning of anything. The reasons why are as numerous as the stars in the sky... but the simple fact is that if you have something someone else wants, and that someone has lower moral standards than you, chances are they are going to try to find a way to get it without compensating you.
Or as one mother in Memphis put it when her son was arrested for multiple burglaries: "You all have insurance, you'll get all your stuff back. My son has to steal cuz he's got no money!" I guess that means if we all quit our jobs, go broke, we should be allowed to steal as well? Not sure that's a good long-term plan for the country as a whole.....
-Bob.
@oneblindcat wrote:You sound nice.
Do us both a favor and add me to your BBL so I don't mistakenly buy from you in the future.
That sounds great - I'll have the same please!
-Bob.
@downunder-61 wrote:On these boards there are so many, many Class Action Lawsuits that are going to be filed............
Has anyone ever seen the outcome of even one of these posted here ?
A class action suit requires a legal firm with the moxie and funding to take on eBay and get sufficient documentation from the herd of cats called eBay Sellers to prove to a judge that the case qualifies for class action status. And that's all done BEFORE any serious discovery or court time....
Now if someone could prove that using eBay give you cancer... there are a dozen firms that specialize in that type of class-action suit. Just watch enough very late night TV and you'll catch most of their ads..... 🙂
-Bob.
@maxine*j wrote:
@rosachs wrote:A class action suit requires a legal firm with the moxie and funding to take on eBay and get sufficient documentation from the herd of cats called eBay Sellers to prove to a judge that the case qualifies for class action status...🙂
-Bob.
And the legal firm has to be willing to try to get around the fact that the eBay User Agreement includes a provision that the user will not bring or participate in a class action lawsuit against eBay: Section 18, Legal Disputes, B., Agreement to Arbitrate, 1. Prohibition of Class and Representative Actions and Non-Individualized Relief.
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/member-behaviour-policies/user-agreement?id=4259#18
Getting a judge to 'sign off' on class action status overrules eBay's Terms Of Service and User Agreement. But the firm has to find enough instances, over enough time, with enough attempts by the afflicted to seek relief from eBay, before a judge would even consider reviewing.
My wife just got a class-action claim form for a suit brought against a large national bank for it's misbehavior in relation to auto loans and early payoffs. She had such a loan and 'paid it off' when the dealership rolled the balance over to her MKZ. Given the condition of the vehicle traded in (our now-ex daughter-in-law had little respect for the property of others), it was a good trade for a beautiful new vehicle that she (my wife) very much deserved. 7yrs later and it's still a wonderful ride... when I'm allowed to drive. I'm not a good passenger and I worry about my wife's depth perception.... 🙂
A class-action suit could be brought, but there are definitely steep hurdles to be passed to even get it started.
-Bob.
