Check your math against EBays

[hriczgashenr]

The suggestion that a company who is complacent in their ways is a company that answers  to their customers while managing the customers money with we have done enough and we do not do that, when you find errors in their favor they dont produce any audits or accountability. They don't do that. Then it is time to turn and burn because that's all they do, that's all they have EVER done and if your NOT paying attention they ARE DOING IT TO YOU TOO.

Just a bit of info: you should head the warning. BURN BURN BURN KARMA WILL GET THEM... 

[hriczgashenr]

Hi John

Thanks for your honest decent approach to a very sensitive issue that consumed so much of my time and due diligence in spearheading the cause and an amicable resolution to the mentioned issues that at the end of the day, the ways of a corporate to big to fail policy and err is not as important as the few who will be worn out whilst communicating with a very dysfunctional CS department. What it boils down to is this, the playbook of how to handle issues with  accounting is institutionally used world wide in practices of the corporate back room. Which at this point and time in our day and age is pretty pathetic. The things that for actual case and point is that when mis applied / not applied payments in managed payment  systems cause a customer/person to experience disaster, a 14 phone transfers in one call before getting disconnected / hung up on. The reality of what

the playbook is designed to accomplish is apparent and will cause most inquiry to be fluffed off by the pursuer. Then a matter of principal is erupted within ones professional and personal fortitudes. 

Persistence for justification is a characteristic that people who have been wronged often will fight for to get an amicable resolution, some stubborn, some wrong, I did not pursue my issues blindly without accurate data. Be it that the difficulty in getting audit level data is one sided. Some do and some will not admit wrong, at any level a decent honest correct  answer and accountability are due to be produced on any monetary inquiry.

 Now because the corporate policy is what it is, after all the time, headaches and aggravation which in my book, does not out weigh the loss and costs of what a sensible individual or small business can absorb. Some things are a matter of principal no matter what the cost. 

When you get a flat out refusal to have accountability that is a red flag a Bernie Madoff flag.

So the fist factual documented experience is the 14 transfer call. The second factual documented experience is the many many days in which it took for me to get a management person on the phone to address multitude of issues. The 30 days of chat results are documented with all the examples of the actions/lack their of and corporate policy. 

The bottom line is, all the were sorry for the problems you have had with your issue, do not make it right.

BTW my  40+ years in the business world haven't been without my own errors, misconception or understandings. I have the ability to admit such things knowing that is the right course to take.

The EBay policy is full of offensive vulgar road blocks, insulting frustrating pathways construed by attorneys.

The complacence is offensive, as well damaging to anyone without the ability to withstand the rigors of the  playbook. So what they lose a few bread winners, they have millions of profit producing sheep that let them

manage every aspect what they do. Their loss their choice. The profits/ tariffs just keep rolling in.

The small guy has to absorb a 14 transfer call, multiple call backs, and no resolution, to have customer service with real time correct data front and center would resolve many issues.  But why? That would be a **bleep** out of the profit play books armor.  When one party is worn down the other has achieved victory. To have simplified data in report form should be the case. It is not good for the goose that way. Floating business funds is okay on a two way street, but it is not okay when policy is on a one way street. 

Data that one can clearly see what penny for penny funds are being applied or not with accuracy is a feature EBay has on their side of the ledger, but not on the customers side. Documented as well.

My advice to every EBayer is count your money and question every instance of difference or extra charges.

The fractions of a dollar times 20+ million a day, a month, a year, really add up, and who would ever notice such hidden policy, profit/tariffs imposed on the masses? If it smells like deceptive business that's because it is deceptive.  Take it or leave it is what the final answer will be when the clock runs out in the accountability department or lack their of.

Regards

[pburn]

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@hriczgashenr wrote:

Hi John

Thanks for your honest decent approach to a very sensitive issue that consumed so much of my time and due diligence in spearheading the cause and an amicable resolution to the mentioned issues that at the end of the day, the ways of a corporate to big to fail policy and err is not as important as the few who will be worn out whilst communicating with a very dysfunctional CS department. What it boils down to is this, the playbook of how to handle issues with  accounting is institutionally used world wide in practices of the corporate back room. Which at this point and time in our day and age is pretty pathetic. The things that for actual case and point is that when mis applied / not applied payments in managed payment  systems cause a customer/person to experience disaster, a 14 phone transfers in one call before getting disconnected / hung up on. The reality of what

the playbook is designed to accomplish is apparent and will cause most inquiry to be fluffed off by the pursuer. Then a matter of principal is erupted within ones professional and personal fortitudes. 

Persistence for justification is a characteristic that people who have been wronged often will fight for to get an amicable resolution, some stubborn, some wrong, I did not pursue my issues blindly without accurate data. Be it that the difficulty in getting audit level data is one sided. Some do and some will not admit wrong, at any level a decent honest correct  answer and accountability are due to be produced on any monetary inquiry.

 Now because the corporate policy is what it is, after all the time, headaches and aggravation which in my book, does not out weigh the loss and costs of what a sensible individual or small business can absorb. Some things are a matter of principal no matter what the cost. 

When you get a flat out refusal to have accountability that is a red flag a Bernie Madoff flag.

So the fist factual documented experience is the 14 transfer call. The second factual documented experience is the many many days in which it took for me to get a management person on the phone to address multitude of issues. The 30 days of chat results are documented with all the examples of the actions/lack their of and corporate policy. 

The bottom line is, all the were sorry for the problems you have had with your issue, do not make it right.

BTW my  40+ years in the business world haven't been without my own errors, misconception or understandings. I have the ability to admit such things knowing that is the right course to take.

The EBay policy is full of offensive vulgar road blocks, insulting frustrating pathways construed by attorneys.

The complacence is offensive, as well damaging to anyone without the ability to withstand the rigors of the  playbook. So what they lose a few bread winners, they have millions of profit producing sheep that let them

manage every aspect what they do. Their loss their choice. The profits/ tariffs just keep rolling in.

The small guy has to absorb a 14 transfer call, multiple call backs, and no resolution, to have customer service with real time correct data front and center would resolve many issues.  But why? That would be a **bleep** out of the profit play books armor.  When one party is worn down the other has achieved victory. To have simplified data in report form should be the case. It is not good for the goose that way. Floating business funds is okay on a two way street, but it is not okay when policy is on a one way street. 

Data that one can clearly see what penny for penny funds are being applied or not with accuracy is a feature EBay has on their side of the ledger, but not on the customers side. Documented as well.

My advice to every EBayer is count your money and question every instance of difference or extra charges.

The fractions of a dollar times 20+ million a day, a month, a year, really add up, and who would ever notice such hidden policy, profit/tariffs imposed on the masses? If it smells like deceptive business that's because it is deceptive.  Take it or leave it is what the final answer will be when the clock runs out in the accountability department or lack their of.

Regards

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That's not an example.

[hriczgashenr]

FYI, I am done with that , walk a mile in my shoes. Then your example will be apparent .

[luckythewinner]

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Check your math against EBays

When I do my taxes at year-end I set up a formula to re-calculate the final value fees independently and compare them to what eBay charged me. I have never found them to be incorrect.

when you find errors in their favor they dont produce any audits or accountability

Can you give some specific examples of errors you have found?

[fern*wood]

It sounds like ebay rounds up/down to the nearest penny in a different direction than you feel they should.

[luckythewinner]

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@hriczgashenr wrote:

Hi John

{ followed by 745 words }

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TLDR:

He didn't give any specific examples.

[buyselljack2016]

In 2020, or maybe it was 2019, there was a 1 or 2 cent error in eBay charges on a sale. Others had the same thing happening. A "blue" was going to look into it. Not sure what the problem was/what the outcome was.

[buyselljack2016]

No thanks.

[inhawaii]

Check your math against EBays

Come on you guys!

Stop giving the OP a hard time.

He's given us some excellent advice.

I would also like to add...

"Count your change before leaving the counter."

[inhawaii]

R. Quincy, Forensic Accountant

[southern*sweet*tea]

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@forward-motion wrote:

Here is my math. I have a bunch of junk parts for sale. Literally, junk parts. The stuff I sell is what would otherwise be thrown away if I did not have a platform to sell it on. I list it, sell it, eBay takes their fee's and gives me the rest. I keep stuffing money into my bank account! I don't need to do the math, it works. I make money. Thank you eBay! 

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I do the same thing with paper that most people throw away, and the same thing happens - money gets sent to my bank account.  Incredible, isn't it? 

That said, I have yet to find any mistakes between my figures and eBay's figures, although I will be the first to admit I do not examine them under the microscope.  All I know is at the end of every month the figures all line up.

[fab_finds4u]

OMG a solid wall of verbiage that makes my head hurt because it's  gobbledygook and you still don't  say a dang thing to show the numbers we want.

Is this your problem - eBay charges a different fee for different categories and you thought it was 12.55 or lately 12.99% and you sold in a category that charges 15%.  Or you were charged an international fee you weren't  aware of, or you didn't take into account their fee is on the total cost the buyer paid. You can sell the identical item to several  buyers from different states and your payout will be different each time. Even selling to 2 buyers in the same state may result in a different payout because it's  not just state sales tax but there are local taxes that some municipalities add. 

If you can't come back and put your money where your mouth is please stop.

[fab_finds4u]

sorry, pburn. That reply  was meant for that long winded novel by the OP.

[johnrj1226]

Very interesting story on how Wall Drug got started.- Took 3  trips  to North & South Dakota - my parents homesteaded in  South West corner of North Dakota (Bowman/Scranton area) way back when in the early 1900's.  Lots of history in those prairies - guess it is part of my roots.    Have to  get off the interstates to see it -  visited a sod hut - that had a power line connected - my Mom and Grand mother told me the story of who lived there  in 1976.  There was a calendar on the wall and Sears mail order catalog on a bed - both from 1974.   Saw  a couple rattle snakes too.  Too each their own.

[simply-the-best-for-you]

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@justafemster wrote:

WALL DRUG!  Now there's a memory.  40+ years ago. 

Hours and hours of driving, billboard after billboard.

Anticipation growing in my 11 year old mind of wonders beyond knowing.  

WALL DRUG!

To find...a GIFTSHOP!  BAHAHAHA

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For me it was See Ruby Falls 🙂 

I wonder what makes OP think we don't audit our own numbers & compare to Ebay's.  Of course, with him being a forensic accountant & all, I don't have the same skills /s, but I do have enough skills to be sure my numbers match.   

I do realize that forensic accountant is a real job, but those skills aren't really necessary to match expenses.