mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@somanypcs wrote:Selling 40 postcards to 40 different buyers will result in total transaction fees of $2.00 since I am signed up for PayPal Micropayments (5% + $.05/transaction). This is still substantially lower than $10.00 for eBay item fees (40 x $.25). I had a thread requesting eBay adopt some sort of Micropayment fees in their Managed Payment program, but I never got an eBay response.
I agree this fee is a real problem in MP. And maybe they should have a Micropayment program inside of MP, but this affects a lot more sellers than just those that get micropayments. This fee by per listing purchased just needs to be completely retired. It is unfair, financially damaging and punitive to sellers that sell multiple items to one buyer.
@mam98031 wrote:
@whiteyswrecking wrote:That is great news, but ebay's has a lot to fix in a short amount of time
1st is forced managed payments, """"STOP IT NOW""""", rethink and read what sellers and buyers are saying
""""a lot more seller protection""""", or sellers will be in the same sinking boat, and jumping to a floating ship,
cause ebay is sinking at an alarming rate
What do buyer's have to complain about with MPs? For buyers the only thing that affects them is they have more payment options. Other than that, everything functions the same for buyers.
MP however has some growing to do that is for sure. But there is still time before the majority or all of us have to use it.
- Higher Fees
- eBay Fee Per Listing vs. Per Transaction
- eBay Prone to Technical Issues and Glitches
- eBay Holding Funds for Days (vs. PayPal Not)
Nuff said, moving on ... 
@greg5000 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@equid0x wrote:Just wait until the FTC steps in.
For what specifically?
Hmmm, this might take a while to explain.
But, not interested in the back-and-forth debate today ... as I'm "Too Happy" about the news Wenig resigned!
So does that mean you don't have any specifics? I'm not trying to get into a debate. I was interested in your rationale for the statement. If it was just in the spirit of supporting another poster, fine. No problem. But if there are something or some things that you feel breach the law that the FTC should step in on, I was just interested to learn what it is or they are.
@mam98031 wrote:
@upgradedendmills wrote:We don't have a fixed timetable for mandatory MP to work with. I have become enamored with PayPal and am resistant to any new program being force fed to me. I could probably work around MP, but am making a personal decision not to.
I too am perfectly happy with PP, but unfortunately we don't have a choice. By 2021 we well all be in MP unless something changes between now and then. And anytime in between it is hard to say if Ebay isn't going to tell some of us we are being opt'd into the program. Ebay does have percentages of total sales they have to adhere to with their contract with PP. So they can't exceed those ceilings. But if enough sellers aren't going in voluntarily, Ebay's approach could change.
There's always a choice we have. The Board chose to make a change and Devin Wenig is out. The Board can help to drive out "All The Things Customer Don't Want." It's really very easy ... to choose to do the Right Thing.
Time will tell ... 
@greg5000 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@whiteyswrecking wrote:That is great news, but ebay's has a lot to fix in a short amount of time
1st is forced managed payments, """"STOP IT NOW""""", rethink and read what sellers and buyers are saying
""""a lot more seller protection""""", or sellers will be in the same sinking boat, and jumping to a floating ship,
cause ebay is sinking at an alarming rate
What do buyer's have to complain about with MPs? For buyers the only thing that affects them is they have more payment options. Other than that, everything functions the same for buyers.
MP however has some growing to do that is for sure. But there is still time before the majority or all of us have to use it.
- Higher Fees
- eBay Fee Per Listing vs. Per Transaction
- eBay Prone to Technical Issues and Glitches
- eBay Holding Funds for Days (vs. PayPal Not)
Nuff said, moving on ...
I too do not agree with the 25 cent per listing transaction fee that MP will be charging. I don't like it one little bit. And I have every intention of letting Ebay know that every single chance I get. But because I don't agree with it, does not make it illegal.
You would have to be able to prove that Ebay is holding seller's money and making a profit on it. Like they did with PP when PP got sued for that and lost. Chances are Ebay, knowing the lawsuit intimately would not repeat that mistake, no matter how badly you hate Ebay.
But the difference here is Ebay has said they are not transferring money to the sellers until the payment from the buyer has cleared their funding source. Which this is what causes the delay. PayPal doesn't do it that way. They make the funds available to the seller immediately. But because MP isn't doing that doesn't make it illegal. It is how they have set it up at this time. Etsy uses Ayden too and Etsy only pays out every couple of weeks. Amazon while they aren't using Ayden, they too only pay out every couple of weeks.
Moving on.
@mam98031 wrote:
@greg5000 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@whiteyswrecking wrote:That is great news, but ebay's has a lot to fix in a short amount of time
1st is forced managed payments, """"STOP IT NOW""""", rethink and read what sellers and buyers are saying
""""a lot more seller protection""""", or sellers will be in the same sinking boat, and jumping to a floating ship,
cause ebay is sinking at an alarming rate
What do buyer's have to complain about with MPs? For buyers the only thing that affects them is they have more payment options. Other than that, everything functions the same for buyers.
MP however has some growing to do that is for sure. But there is still time before the majority or all of us have to use it.
- Higher Fees
- eBay Fee Per Listing vs. Per Transaction
- eBay Prone to Technical Issues and Glitches
- eBay Holding Funds for Days (vs. PayPal Not)
Nuff said, moving on ...
I too do not agree with the 25 cent per listing transaction fee that MP will be charging. I don't like it one little bit. And I have every intention of letting Ebay know that every single chance I get. But because I don't agree with it, does not make it illegal.
You would have to be able to prove that Ebay is holding seller's money and making a profit on it. Like they did with PP when PP got sued for that and lost. Chances are Ebay, knowing the lawsuit intimately would not repeat that mistake, no matter how badly you hate Ebay.
But the difference here is Ebay has said they are not transferring money to the sellers until the payment from the buyer has cleared their funding source. Which this is what causes the delay. PayPal doesn't do it that way. They make the funds available to the seller immediately. But because MP isn't doing that doesn't make it illegal. It is how they have set it up at this time. Etsy uses Ayden too and Etsy only pays out every couple of weeks. Amazon while they aren't using Ayden, they too only pay out every couple of weeks.
Moving on.
Any thoughts on Wenig's departure and the topic of this thread?
