10-25-2018 04:57 PM
Greetings All:
I don't take returns, but a buyer issued a return request through ebay with the reason for return "didn't fit." I list all measurements, so buyers can compare sizes to items they own or use their own body measurements to know if the item will fit before buying.
The request email stated I had a choice to refuse this return, but really, does a seller actually have a choice with anything on ebay concerning buyers--except not to sell to buyers on ebay? No, so that leads to my question: Can I block this buyer now or do I have to wait for the return process to complete?
10-25-2018 05:07 PM
You can refuse returns. But you cannot refuse refunds.
Measurements are a big help with buying clothing online, but bodies differ and what fits one 39-27-41 may not fit the next, because one carries flesh on her back and wears an A cup and the other has a pooch and wears a C cup.
Send the return shipping label. If she doesn't use it, you win the case, get your label payment back and move on.
If she does return it, you refund promptly, and relist.
It's not personal, it's business.
Have you heard the Good News about Cookie Jar Insurance?
This is another was of saying self-insurance.
You take a few virtual pennies from every sale and put them in a virtual Cookie Jar.
If there is a problem, you use those pennies to cover the cost of an Item Not Receive (probably delayed), or that doesn't fit as the customer hoped, or the time you sent a blue sweater when a green* one was ordered.
I'd wait until the transaction is complete. That is, until you have the item back and have refunded. If she leaves positive feedback, don't Block.
But it's up to you.
*Or the customer who thinks 'teal' is blue when you are sure it is green.
10-25-2018 05:13 PM
@reallynicestamps wrote:You can refuse returns. But you cannot refuse refunds.
Measurements are a big help with buying clothing online, but bodies differ and what fits one 39-27-41 may not fit the next, because one carries flesh on her back and wears an A cup and the other has a pooch and wears a C cup.
Send the return shipping label. If she doesn't use it, you win the case, get your label payment back and move on.
If she does return it, you refund promptly, and relist.
It's not personal, it's business.
Have you heard the Good News about Cookie Jar Insurance?
This is another was of saying self-insurance.
You take a few virtual pennies from every sale and put them in a virtual Cookie Jar.
If there is a problem, you use those pennies to cover the cost of an Item Not Receive (probably delayed), or that doesn't fit as the customer hoped, or the time you sent a blue sweater when a green* one was ordered.
I'd wait until the transaction is complete. That is, until you have the item back and have refunded. If she leaves positive feedback, don't Block.
But it's up to you.
*Or the customer who thinks 'teal' is blue when you are sure it is green.
@reallynicestamps The OP can refuse a refund in this situation. It’s a remorse return. She’s not required to refund for fit issues.
10-25-2018 05:20 PM
10-25-2018 05:30 PM
Block away.
10-25-2018 06:28 PM
@annasunicorns wrote:
As long as the reason falls under buyers remorse, you can turn the buyer down if you choose. For me it would then depend then on how they ask and if it as a thing I can easily resell. Ask nicely, I take most returns. Cookie jar insurance.
Can the buyer still leave negative feedback in a "buyer's remorse" case? Also can they not reissue a return request for SNAD after damaging the item, claiming they missed some "tear or stain" on the first request?
10-25-2018 08:58 PM
@annasunicorns wrote:
As long as the reason falls under buyers remorse, you can turn the buyer down if you choose. For me it would then depend then on how they ask and if it as a thing I can easily resell. Ask nicely, I take most returns. Cookie jar insurance.
All this talk about cookie jars makes me want to go out to the kitchen 🙂 Tulips
10-25-2018 10:35 PM
@holmaneva-2 wrote:Greetings All:
I don't take returns, but a buyer issued a return request through ebay with the reason for return "didn't fit." I list all measurements, so buyers can compare sizes to items they own or use their own body measurements to know if the item will fit before buying.
The request email stated I had a choice to refuse this return, but really, does a seller actually have a choice with anything on ebay concerning buyers--except not to sell to buyers on ebay? No, so that leads to my question: Can I block this buyer now or do I have to wait for the return process to complete?
I’m unclear on this—Why do you want to block the buyer? It sounds like she is asking for a return for fit issues, meaning she will have to pay return shipping. A less than stellar eBayer knows if they file a SNAD, they don’t have to cover that expense, the seller does. But your buyer chose an honest reason. What happened that makes you want to block?
10-25-2018 10:48 PM
@holmaneva-2 wrote:
@annasunicorns wrote:
As long as the reason falls under buyers remorse, you can turn the buyer down if you choose. For me it would then depend then on how they ask and if it as a thing I can easily resell. Ask nicely, I take most returns. Cookie jar insurance.Can the buyer still leave negative feedback in a "buyer's remorse" case? Also can they not reissue a return request for SNAD after damaging the item, claiming they missed some "tear or stain" on the first request?
Yes, the buyer can still leave feedback for a remorse return. And yes, they could falsely state Not As Described. But what makes you think this buyer will do so? So far it sounds like they have been on the up and up with you. The overwhelming majority of eBayers are honest. While it is possible a buyer might deliberately damage an item in order to force a refund, it is unlikely to happen.
10-26-2018 02:09 AM - edited 10-26-2018 02:10 AM
@fashunu4eeuh wrote:
@holmaneva-2 wrote:Greetings All:
I don't take returns, but a buyer issued a return request through ebay with the reason for return "didn't fit." I list all measurements, so buyers can compare sizes to items they own or use their own body measurements to know if the item will fit before buying.
The request email stated I had a choice to refuse this return, but really, does a seller actually have a choice with anything on ebay concerning buyers--except not to sell to buyers on ebay? No, so that leads to my question: Can I block this buyer now or do I have to wait for the return process to complete?
I’m unclear on this—Why do you want to block the buyer? It sounds like she is asking for a return for fit issues, meaning she will have to pay return shipping. A less than stellar eBayer knows if they file a SNAD, they don’t have to cover that expense, the seller does. But your buyer chose an honest reason. What happened that makes you want to block?
That's what I was thinking. Why would you want to block an honest buyer? Accept the return or don't but no need to block.
Providing measurements isn't foolproof. Giving measurements minimizes the chances of fit issues but it doesn't eliminate them.
10-26-2018 03:30 AM
Why do you want to block the buyer? It sounds like she is asking for a return for fit issues?
"That's what I was thinking. Why would you want to block an honest buyer?"
The buyer clearly can't tell what will fit her even with flat measurements provided. This transaction was a waste of time and money for the OP. Why give the buyer a second bite at the apple?
I would absolutely block the minute I read her message about wanting to return. If you feel so sorry for her, then you are welcome to waste your own time and money refunding and relisting.
10-26-2018 03:54 AM - edited 10-26-2018 03:58 AM
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@annasunicorns wrote:
As long as the reason falls under buyers remorse, you can turn the buyer down if you choose. For me it would then depend then on how they ask and if it as a thing I can easily resell. Ask nicely, I take most returns. Cookie jar insurance.All this talk about cookie jars makes me want to go out to the kitchen 🙂 Tulips
MY cookie jar has homemade Molassas cookies in it, so there will NEVER be enough room for 'insurance', too! Hmmmmm, that reminds me ...... back in a minute or five.
Oh yeah, what was the question again?
10-26-2018 05:19 AM
10-26-2018 05:20 AM
midnight-mystic: "The buyer clearly can't tell what will fit her even with flat measurements provided. This transaction was a waste of time and money for the OP. Why give the buyer a second bite at the apple?
I would absolutely block the minute I read her message about wanting to return. If you feel so sorry for her, then you are welcome to waste your own time and money refunding and relisting."
Well, isn't that a delightful response? If only it were that easy, to just block a buyer after a sale, and make them go away. However, blocking them will only prevent them (maybe) from purchasing from you again, and if you have your settings correct, then they can't send you any more messages directly. They can, however, send messages through eBay--as in, opening a SNAD return when they are angry at being ignored. As much as sellers would like to keep buyers from biting their apples twice, eBay has made it quite clear that they could care less if you are left with only a moldy brown core--when all is said and done. Blocking the buyer isn't going to stop her from getting that return--one way or another. The only thing blocking her will do, is cause ill-will and hard feelings.
Everyone who buys clothing on-line has gotten, at one time or another, something that just didn't fit. Regardless of the measurements provided, sometimes it is hard to make all the measurements line up on an actual human. I recently sold a dress to a woman who stated that the waist of the dress actually hit her around her bust area--it was just a bad fit, and I accepted the return, which took me about a minute, got the dress back and re-listed it, which also took about another minute. In the meantime, I also got positive feedback from the buyer for being easy to work with--something that the OP will probably NOT get if they block, ignore, dismiss, and stubbornly refuse to accept a return from a buyer who did the right thing here, by not being a weasel and filing a SNAD return. I hate returns too--and they are off the chart lately--but what I do like, is my 100% feedback, 5 star ratings, and return buyers who save me as a favorite seller.
This kind of buyer should be courted here--and rewarded for their honesty, or at least given the most basic of courtesies--as in, not being ignored. As it is well known now that eBay will back them no matter what. We want to keep buyers here--especially the good ones--not run them off with rudeness. A buyer wanting to return a piece of clothing that just doesn't fit or flatter, is certainly no reason for any seller to get upset or angry-and it's certainly no reason to treat any buyer poorly. If you decide not to accept the return, then fine--that is your decision. However, before any seller hits that "refuse" button, or before they try to rely on that "blocked" list to actually help in any way, in a situation like this one--they should be aware of the risks. And there are plenty of ways this can easily go South for a stubborn or rude seller.
10-26-2018 06:12 AM