10-09-2020 08:00 PM
A couple days ago I noticed a revision was made on one of our listings on Oct. 3. That is a Saturday. We are closed on the weekends. Then I noticed it was shipping terms that had been changed. We use GSP. I'm sure there are times when GSP needs to make changes. I just thought it interesting that it would show up under our revisions.
So, since the phones closed down early again, I opted to chat with CS with, what I thought, was a simple question: If GSP changes, for example, the regions they ship to, will it show up as a revision on my listing?
OMG!!! 2 hours and 4 associates later I'm screaming at my computer (knowing perfectly well they could not hear me).
I understand what they were telling me, that the account holder is the only one who can make changes to a listing. And it didn't help my case any when they said the change came from my same IP address.
However, two facts can't be denied: We're closed on the weekends. And even if someone was here, they don't have access to my computer. You could tell they were sure I must have made the change and didn't remember. I think I would remember if I was at work on a Saturday.
The second thing, and this was confirmed by one of the agents, the changes made were ship to locations. I have no control over that. That's GSP. I can't make those changes. I had a tough time getting this through to the second agent I was chatting with. At one point, it was like I took her hand and step-by-step walked her to the point I was trying to make. At the end, it felt like that Star Trek episode where they confused the computers to the point of them over loading. "Does not compute! Does not compute!" (Boy, did I just age myself...) So, she transferred me to security.
Security didn't even want to talk to me. There was no unauthorized activity on my account. "Then how do you explain...?" Nope, unh-unh. She needs to send me back to selling for my listing concerns. "Aren't you concerned that a change has been made to our listing that we did not make?" "There is no indication that your account is tampered" "Yet, a change has been made that we did not make." "... Since we have no access to your physical computer, we can't validate who made the change. But definitely it is not a hacking activity" (in other words, I'm a stupid idiot who can't remember what I did last Saturday) "And definitely, it did not come from us." Next thing I know, a new associate is on the line. I had been transferred back to the beginning!
I was sooo **bleep**. She was so convinced that it was a change I made, she wasn't even listening. I'm the customer. I should have been given the benefit of the doubt. Good CS would have listened then worked with me to see if we could find a way that this could have happened.
I'm sorry. I really needed to vent.
Now, for you computer nerds out there... If GSP needed to change their ship to locations, however no ones supposed to make changes to our listing but us, how would they do it? And would it have to be done in such a way that it appears to come from my IP address?
Can anyone explain how this could happen?
BTW, I found other listings with revisions where the ship-to locations were changed. So... Is it me??
10-09-2020 08:19 PM
No, Ebay decides I am going to ship internationally almost every day. I have gotten in the habit of bulk editing my stores listings every couple days to remove global shipping options. Just today I came across a listing that had been edited to ship to China. No other countries selected, Just China. I would NEVER, NEVER , NEVER have done that. I am sick and tired of my listings being manipulated by Ebay but it's there website so I just suck it up and move forward. And keep bulk editing.
10-10-2020 06:31 AM
This wasn't a Star Trek episode...it was Twilight Zone. And that this the hot mess that eBay is in right now.
Kind of like the "ghost" listings that many have experienced with items that have sold getting listed again.
I am not a computer nerd, but I know enough to know.....a computer just doesn't make changes on it's own.
"NIKE"
10-11-2020 02:51 PM - edited 10-11-2020 02:52 PM
I have only specified a few countries that I DO NOT ship to, yet when you look at my shipping exclusions, you will see these countries:
I believe ebay added them from information they received from the USPS, due to the pandemic.
10-11-2020 03:07 PM
Star Trek for sure, was the episode that kirk fell in love with the creator's android and she fizzled out.
Season 3
10-11-2020 03:15 PM
or maybe Star Trek Season 2
10-14-2020 05:47 PM
No way I would know which season, but I can perfectly envision Capt. Kirk on one side and Spoke on the other, and something about, "Everything he says is a lie". Classic Star Trek.
Thanks for backing me up.
10-14-2020 05:49 PM
Opps! ...Spock...
10-14-2020 05:54 PM
@subapete wrote:No, Ebay decides I am going to ship internationally almost every day. I have gotten in the habit of bulk editing my stores listings every couple days to remove global shipping options. Just today I came across a listing that had been edited to ship to China. No other countries selected, Just China. I would NEVER, NEVER , NEVER have done that. I am sick and tired of my listings being manipulated by Ebay but it's there website so I just suck it up and move forward. And keep bulk editing.
When these changes occur, do they show up under your revisions?
The other thing that really gets me is them saying the changes came from my IP address. How can they do that? I mean that question in both senses. 1) How is that possible? 2) If it is possible and that's what they are doing, isn't that the same as hacking my computer?
10-14-2020 05:57 PM
@disneyshopper wrote:I have only specified a few countries that I DO NOT ship to, yet when you look at my shipping exclusions, you will see these countries:
I believe ebay added them from information they received from the USPS, due to the pandemic.
Do you use GSP?
10-16-2020 05:12 PM
@vintagewinecollector wrote:I am not a computer nerd, but I know enough to know.....a computer just doesn't make changes on it's own.
Not yet, at least. Thank you!
But see, they are aware of that too. Which is why it had to be me that made the changes. Never mind that I don't have access to make changes to shipping locations or that I don't work on Saturdays. Remember, I'm the one too stupid to remember what I did last Saturday, yet smart enough to know how to hack into eBay's GSP and change their ship-to locations. 🙄
10-18-2020 07:47 AM
I opted out of GSP last week after months of having buyers unable to pay because eBay thinks I don't ship to their location, even though the listing clearly said I do. Also, GSP sales use your domestic return policy, which for me is free returns. That makes zero sense. There's no way I'm paying $60 for a return from some other country. eBay standard international delivery is better. Only problem is that the international orders don't get included on USPS SCAN forms, so I have to have them scanned separately.
10-19-2020 06:49 PM
Ah, I, Mudd. Harry Mudd manages to get control of a planet full of androids, and since he is such a perfectly cromulent example of humankind, the androids logically decide we shouldn't be out in the galaxy without a keeper.
My nerd, let me show it to U. 😁
10-19-2020 07:47 PM
@airsheep wrote:Ah, I, Mudd. Harry Mudd manages to get control of a planet full of androids, and since he is such a perfectly cromulent example of humankind, the androids logically decide we shouldn't be out in the galaxy without a keeper.
My nerd, let me show it to U. 😁
That sounds right... And they were actually trying to save him, right? That's why they overloaded the androids. It's all coming back to me. Boy, that was a long time ago...
10-19-2020 07:57 PM
For some reason I can't reply to your post. Keep getting error messages.
What I wanted to reply to is your saying that GSP uses our domestic return policy. We don't offer free returns, but we do offer returns. However, we do not accept international returns, for the same reason you stated. Costs too much. It's just not worth it. So, I'm hoping that when they see no returns, they'll make double sure they're ordering the right part. We really don't care if we sell internationally or not. Previously, it was just one hassle after another. So, we love GSP with no returns. Ship to Kentucky and we're done. Any problems that arise is not our problem. 😎
Bottom line, we are able to chose a different return policy for international orders using GSP.