02-27-2018 08:49 AM
I sell mainly vintage and handmade items, which normally don't have product identifiers. How will these kinds of listings be associated with the catalog? What will search results for buyers look like?
02-27-2018 08:57 AM
@creativecrisis wrote:
I sell mainly vintage and handmade items, which normally don't have product identifiers. How will these kinds of listings be associated with the catalog? What will search results for buyers look like?
Although we are currently focusing on commodity goods, we will expand Product-based Commerce to all eBay categories. Since everything sold on eBay can be described as a product, we will enable all sellers to add their products to our catalog directly, including products for unique or long-tail items. We will make sure that those items are discoverable. We will also do our best to reduce the friction during the product creation experience where it shouldn’t be more burdensome than the listing creation experience today. We're committed to ensuring search results appear in an intuitive way that enables buyers to compare and contrast items when making their purchase selection.
02-27-2018 09:03 AM
@lolkthxbaiwrote:
@creativecrisiswrote:I sell mainly vintage and handmade items, which normally don't have product identifiers. How will these kinds of listings be associated with the catalog? What will search results for buyers look like?
Although we are currently focusing on commodity goods, we will expand Product-based Commerce to all eBay categories. Since everything sold on eBay can be described as a product, we will enable all sellers to add their products to our catalog directly, including products for unique or long-tail items. We will make sure that those items are discoverable. We will also do our best to reduce the friction during the product creation experience where it shouldn’t be more burdensome than the listing creation experience today. We're committed to ensuring search results appear in an intuitive way that enables buyers to compare and contrast items when making their purchase selection.
Thanks for the response.
Specifically, HOW will ebay "enable all sellers to add their products to the catalog directly"? That is not clear.
What do you mean by "reducing the friction" during product creation?
I still don't understand how items that don't have product identifiers will be associated with the catalog and what buyers will see when seaching for them.
02-27-2018 09:25 AM
@creativecrisis wrote:
@lolkthxbaiwrote:
@creativecrisiswrote:
I sell mainly vintage and handmade items, which normally don't have product identifiers. How will these kinds of listings be associated with the catalog? What will search results for buyers look like?
Although we are currently focusing on commodity goods, we will expand Product-based Commerce to all eBay categories. Since everything sold on eBay can be described as a product, we will enable all sellers to add their products to our catalog directly, including products for unique or long-tail items. We will make sure that those items are discoverable. We will also do our best to reduce the friction during the product creation experience where it shouldn’t be more burdensome than the listing creation experience today. We're committed to ensuring search results appear in an intuitive way that enables buyers to compare and contrast items when making their purchase selection.
Thanks for the response.
Specifically, HOW will ebay "enable all sellers to add their products to the catalog directly"? That is not clear.
What do you mean by "reducing the friction" during product creation?
I still don't understand how items that don't have product identifiers will be associated with the catalog and what buyers will see when seaching for them.
Thank you for the response. Later this year, we'll be providing seller tools which will enable them to add products to the eBay catalog, and we'll provide sellers with complete information about how to take advantage of this functionality ahead of launching these tools.
We're currently only focused on Product Based Commerce for select products in Consumer Electronics and Home & Garden where product identifiers are readily available. As we expand to additional products, we'll ensure sellers have the information they need to list and surface their items to buyers.
02-27-2018 09:31 AM
@lolkthxbaiwrote:
@creativecrisiswrote:I sell mainly vintage and handmade items, which normally don't have product identifiers. How will these kinds of listings be associated with the catalog? What will search results for buyers look like?
Although we are currently focusing on commodity goods, we will expand Product-based Commerce to all eBay categories. Since everything sold on eBay can be described as a product, we will enable all sellers to add their products to our catalog directly, including products for unique or long-tail items. We will make sure that those items are discoverable. We will also do our best to reduce the friction during the product creation experience where it shouldn’t be more burdensome than the listing creation experience today. We're committed to ensuring search results appear in an intuitive way that enables buyers to compare and contrast items when making their purchase selection.
Comment:
I look forward to watching the "cataloging" process for vintage and antiques.
For example: take a look at the biggest site for replacement china and glass. There are literally thousands of unique manufacturers listed. Some manufacturers have only 2 or 3 unique patterns listed, others have hundreds. And within each pattern there can be anywhere from 1 to 200 unique pieces listed.
The majority of these thousands upon thousands of items don't have (and never had) any sort of product identifier.
And eBay plans to create valid catalog entried for all of this? It will be fascinating to watch.
02-27-2018 09:33 AM
How about vintage items that just flat out don't have a brand on them and are one of a kind statues or artwork?
02-27-2018 09:38 AM
With sellers providing input into a catalog for vintage/antique items, how with the accuracy of the information be verified?
Many vintage china/glass/flatware patterns look very much alike, yet they come from different manufacturers, have different names, and have diffenent years of manufacture.
Who/what is going to check that a seller entering catalog information has made the right identification?
Catalog entries with incorrect information will mean that buyers expect to get one thing, and instead get something else. Not a good situation.
02-27-2018 10:02 AM
@anthonyd46 wrote:
How about vintage items that just flat out don't have a brand on them and are one of a kind statues or artwork?
Right now, we are only discussing select products in Consumer Electronics and Home & Garden that we will be requiring association with the eBay catalog. With that said, unique, one-of-a-kind, private label, and loose (non-productized) goods are an important part of the eBay platform. If there are changes to how these items need to be listed, we will make sure that the selling community is made aware of these changes well in advance.
02-27-2018 10:24 AM
Hi, Later this year....Will ooak and used , handmade be required to purchase / add upc's / product identifiers ?
02-27-2018 10:32 AM
@lolkthxbaiwrote:
@anthonyd46wrote:How about vintage items that just flat out don't have a brand on them and are one of a kind statues or artwork?
Right now, we are only discussing select products in Consumer Electronics and Home & Garden that we will be requiring association with the eBay catalog. With that said, unique, one-of-a-kind, private label, and loose (non-productized) goods are an important part of the eBay platform. If there are changes to how these items need to be listed, we will make sure that the selling community is made aware of these changes well in advance.
Please make it far enough in advance so we can migrate to other sites if you group antiques/OOAK/unique together.
02-27-2018 10:58 AM
@tealtwrote:
@lolkthxbaiwrote:
@creativecrisiswrote:I sell mainly vintage and handmade items, which normally don't have product identifiers. How will these kinds of listings be associated with the catalog? What will search results for buyers look like?
Although we are currently focusing on commodity goods, we will expand Product-based Commerce to all eBay categories. Since everything sold on eBay can be described as a product, we will enable all sellers to add their products to our catalog directly, including products for unique or long-tail items. We will make sure that those items are discoverable. We will also do our best to reduce the friction during the product creation experience where it shouldn’t be more burdensome than the listing creation experience today. We're committed to ensuring search results appear in an intuitive way that enables buyers to compare and contrast items when making their purchase selection.
Comment:
I look forward to watching the "cataloging" process for vintage and antiques.
For example: take a look at the biggest site for replacement china and glass. There are literally thousands of unique manufacturers listed. Some manufacturers have only 2 or 3 unique patterns listed, others have hundreds. And within each pattern there can be anywhere from 1 to 200 unique pieces listed.
The majority of these thousands upon thousands of items don't have (and never had) any sort of product identifier.
And eBay plans to create valid catalog entried for all of this? It will be fascinating to watch.
Users in control of the database never turns out well. Ever.
02-27-2018 11:25 AM
Users in control of the database never turns out well. Ever.
Amen to that.
No seller should be able to add anything to a product catalog - that is a recipe for disaster - just check out book categories today. Sellers should be able to make a request only, and a catalog listing added only after ebay has done due diligence.
There is absolutely no need for a catalog of OOAK items. As many have been suggesting for years - the ebay marketplace should be divided into two separate segments like ebay Motors. One for new/modern with your product catalog - the other for used/vintage/OOAK with no product identifiers or catalog necessary.
02-27-2018 02:47 PM
02-27-2018 03:06 PM
With sellers providing input into a catalog for vintage/antique items, how with the accuracy of the information be verified?
It won't be. They've let some sellers do this some in the Coins category already, one of the most heavily cataloged items ever, and easiest vintage/antique items ever to catalog, and the result is still a giant mess.
Many vintage china/glass/flatware patterns look very much alike, yet they come from different manufacturers, have different names, and have diffenent years of manufacture.
Who/what is going to check that a seller entering catalog information has made the right identification?
The same people who will check that the next seller down the line selected the right catalog entry for their listing. No one.
Catalog entries with incorrect information will mean that buyers expect to get one thing, and instead get something else. Not a good situation.
That's already happening. They may not require me to use a catalog page for my item that's not in their catalog now, but they just attach my listing to some (incorrect) product page anyhow. And then that listing is served to users using their Buy Box page, without my title to explain what my item actually is.
This isn't some future looming disaster, they started doing this late last year.
02-27-2018 04:00 PM
I understand you don't have the information now.