albertabrightalberta
I am a new seller, and have sold 1 vintage leather coach with no issues, this one I got 3 offers on, but then I got dinged as it being fake? I checked the seams,, creed,, matched the serial number to bag (although I could not find it in this color) .
Would you experts let me know please, I don't want to post it anywhere else if it is indeed fake.
I tried to get a good pic of the creed but the number is D2J-9983
I'm not @fashionclubgurl but I can speak for myself and what I have to say is probably similar to her feelings.
If you reread her reply to you, you'll see that there's nothing snarky and no indication of a chip on her shoulder. Her comments are brief, factual and to the point. The facts are that:
1. the bag is fake
2. the internet is full of "authenticity guides" written by anyone who cares to take the time to write one. No one verifies that these guides are correct and in fact, among several sites I post on, I've seen at least a dozen guides that have more misinformation than accurate info.
3. US trademark law (and ebay policy) forbid the sale of fakes, knowingly or not. It's a fact (not snark) that it is a seller's responsibility to find out whether an item is legal BEFORE listing.
Here on the boards, you're dealing with posters with different personalities, different customs, often from different countries and different posting styles. You aren't going to get the same style of response from all these different variables. Nor are you going to always get agreement on your opinions. But disagreement doesn't necessarily mean disrespect; just that we perceive an issue differently.
As for your other comments about the purpose of the boards, although this may have been your first removal and you truly made an honest mistake, we've been posting on these boards (originally called clothing, shoes, accessories prior to fashion) and on other handbag websites for over 15 years.
There have been hundreds of sellers whose listings of "1000% items" were removed as counterfeit. Although it happens occasionally that an authentic item is removed, most removals are not done in error.
We've also seen posters come here complaining of removals of items that had come with COAs. (COA = certificate of authenticity) There are several companies that claim to be professional authentication services that have been found to have made many mistakes.
For example, there's a fairly well know company that uses (what they call) Artificial Intelligence to authenticate items. Presumably, they've fed a bunch of information into a computer and when they authenticate a bag, they compare details of the item in question to the "bunch of information" they've collected.
The problem is that they have no clue that some or many of their comps are fakes! And as such, other fakes are being deemed authentic. And because some authentic items don't match their examples, the authentic items are deemed to be fake!
And because this company isn't adjusting its algorithms, more and more errors are being made.
Another issue is that anyone can open a company and call themselves "authentication services" and some of these companies are erring also.
Keep in mind that no one can be expert in all brands and items so unless a company uses brand specialists or unless a company only does one brand, mistakes are going to happen.
As @fashionclubgurl recommended, simply verify your items before listing and you won't have this problem.
@yhlml wrote:What chip or snarky comment are you talking about? I didn't see any of that.
I reread the posts also because I wondered the same thing.
