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Bid jump with no bid in beween?

My bid jumped from my winning automatic bid of 17.51 to 26.00 with no bid in between. The seller sent me a screen shot of what he had and it does not show the 26.00 bid.  Here is what I got:

 

Bidder Bid Amount Bid Time Shipping status Action pali96734(56) $27.77 18 Apr 2018 at 3:41:10PM PDT
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pali96734(56) $27.77 14 Apr 2018 at 6:39:07PM PDT --   n***r(55) $26.77 18 Apr 2018 at 4:51:51PM PDT --   pali96734(56) $26.00 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $17.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $17.01 18 Apr 2018 at 3:08:23AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $16.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $16.01 18 Apr 2018 at 3:06:21AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $15.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $15.01 18 Apr 2018 at 3:06:01AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $12.50 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $12.00 18 Apr 2018 at 3:05:45AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.l***p(515) $9.99 18 Apr 2018 at 3:05:45AM PDT --   Starting Price $9.99 13 Apr 2018 at 4:51:56PM PDT  
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@pali96734 wrote:

My bid jumped from my winning automatic bid of 17.51 to 26.00 with no bid in between. The seller sent me a screen shot of what he had and it does not show the 26.00 bid.  Here is what I got:

 

Bidder Bid Amount Bid Time Shipping status Action pali96734(56) $27.77 18 Apr 2018 at 3:41:10PM PDT
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pali96734(56) $27.77 14 Apr 2018 at 6:39:07PM PDT --   n***r(55) $26.77 18 Apr 2018 at 4:51:51PM PDT --   pali96734(56) $26.00 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $17.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $17.01 18 Apr 2018 at 3:08:23AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $16.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $16.01 18 Apr 2018 at 3:06:21AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $15.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $15.01 18 Apr 2018 at 3:06:01AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.pali96734(56) $12.50 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT --   l***p(515) $12.00 18 Apr 2018 at 3:05:45AM PDT --   This is an automatic bid (proxy bid) placed by eBay on behalf of the bidder.l***p(515) $9.99 18 Apr 2018 at 3:05:45AM PDT --   Starting Price $9.99 13 Apr 2018 at 4:51:56PM PDT  

@pali96734

 

pali96734,

 

Have a close look at the Bid History page of the auction and note the $26.77 bid placed by the bidder n***r (55) on Apr 18 at 4:51:51 PDT which was 5 seconds before the auction ended.

 

That $26.77 competing bid clearly explains why the bid "jumped" to your winning bid of $27.77.

Godzilla_Goose

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pali96734,

 

Frankly, it would be EASIER if you DO NOT use Show automatic bids to follow what happended.

 

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/202288094579?item=202288094579&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565

Godzilla_Goose

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@pali96734,

 

You do not seem to know about the different ways one can bid on ebay, and how they work. Read the info in the link below to understand utmatic bidding.

https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/bidding/bidding?id=4003

 

I got a headache trying to read the info you posted. You could have gone to the listing and posted a screen shot. or placed each bid on its own line in the order they came in. The most important ones in this case are the last couple of bids.

pali96734(56 $27.77 14 Apr 2018 at 6:39:07PM PDT -- 

  n***r(55)        $26.77 18 Apr 2018 at 4:51:51PM

pali96734956) $17.51 14 Apr 2018 at 6:37:52PM PDT

 

n***r placed their bid on the last day of the auction, their maximum bid was $26.77. 

Your automatic bid placed on the 14th which was higher than $27.77 was increased by $1 the minimum bid increment after the price of $24.99 is passed. Below is a link with a list of the minmum bid increments at different price levels.

(I've never been able to figure out why the time an automatic bid is placed shows up later on as being a few minutes later than it was actually placed, and sometimes later on goes back to the actual bid time).

https://pages.ebay.ca/help/buy/bid-increments.html

 

 

 

 

 

"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FOOLPROOF, BECAUSE FOOLS ARE SO DARNED INGENIOUS!" (unknown)
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@pali96734

What is it that you don't get? You didn't have to bid one increment at a time; your competitors also don't have to. When you've placed a maximum bid and are the leader, and someone else places a maximum bid, eBay doesn't show each individual increment, because that's not how the bids were made.

 

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Thank you for your response. I understand that a bid was placed for 26.77 and my auto bid of 27.77 topped it and I won. It's the bid before that conuses me, when I had an auto bid of 17.51 and then the next bid is from me for 26.00. At any rate, I have purchased the item, the seller was great, and it's all good.

Mahalo 

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@pali96734 wrote:

Thank you for your response. I understand that a bid was placed for 26.77 and my auto bid of 27.77 topped it and I won. It's the bid before that conuses me, when I had an auto bid of 17.51 and then the next bid is from me for 26.00. At any rate, I have purchased the item, the seller was great, and it's all good.

Mahalo 


@pali96734

 

pali96734,

 

I am going to take my time to carefully go over the auction (chronologically) with you so that you will thoroughly understand what had happened in your auction.

 

The auction started on Apr 13 with the opening bid or starting price of $9.99.

 

You were the first bidder to this auction, and on Apr 14, you placed an automatic bid of $26.00 at 6:37:52 PM PDT. At that instant in time, the bid displayed on the auction page itself was $9.99 since your were the first bidder to that auction to place any bid.

 

On Apr 14, you placed a higher bid of (at least) $27.77 at 6:39:07 PM PDT. The bid price displayed on the auction page itself would remain at $9.99 with 2 bids being recorded. There were NO competing bids placed at that time.

 

On Apr 18, bidder l***p (515) placed a total of four bids ranging from $12.00 at 3:05:45 AM PDT to $17.01 at 3:08:23 AM PDT. Each time bidder l***p (515) entered an automatic bid, your second automatic bid of at least $27.77 kept you in the lead and at Apr 18 3:08:23 AM PDT, there were 2 bidders and a total of 6 bids placed. The bid price displayed on the auction page itself would have been $17.51 calculated as bidder l***p (515)’s $17.01 automatic bid plus one 50¢ bid increment at that price level. At this point during the auction, any new bid (from a competing bidder) only had to be at least $18.01 which is one 50¢ bid increment above the bid displayed on the auction page.

 

On Apr 18 at 3:41:10 PM PDT, you placed an even higher automatic bid that was higher than your second bid that you placed on Apr 14 at 6:37:52 PM PDT. The bid price displayed on the auction page itself remained at $17.51 since you were still the high bidder at this point during the auction. Again, any new bid from a competing bidder only had to be for at least $18.01 at this point during the auction.

 

Lastly, bidder n***r (55) place a “snipe bid” of $26.77 on Apr 18 at 4:51:51 PM PDT just 5 seconds before the auction closed at 4:51:56 PM PDT. Since the placement of this competing bid was more than the minimum bid required of $18.01 at that point during the auction, the bid price “jumped” from $17.51 to the final winning bid price of $27.77. Congratulations on your auction win having outbid a sniper.

 

It’s been my pleasure helping you and, you’re welcome. Take care. I am gone for the rest of the day.

Godzilla_Goose

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Mahalo for your time with such a lengthy response! I don't know if I'll ever get this "bidding" thing down, but I have always been pleased with the items, prices, and sellers I have bought from! Have a great day!

Aloha!

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@pali96734 wrote:

Thank you for your response. I understand that a bid was placed for 26.77 and my auto bid of 27.77 topped it and I won. It's the bid before that conuses me, when I had an auto bid of 17.51 and then the next bid is from me for 26.00. At any rate, I have purchased the item, the seller was great, and it's all good.

Mahalo 


$26.00 is an ACTUAL bid you place, the first one you placed.  You typed in $26.00 and that's what is showing on the history (or rather that's what showed once there was a bid by a competitor high enough to reveal the full amount).  You then rebid a higher amount a little more than a minute later, then again higher than that a little more than an hour before the end.  We don't know how much those bids were for because that's how eBay auctions work:  eBay HIDES the full amount of any bid that is more than the calculated price (or "current bid" while the auction is running, but that is just what the price would be if there is no further bid related activity before the end--those are NOT actual bids, merely a tentative calculation that temporarily shows as the amount for that bid until someone else places another bid and is used to calculate the minimum bid amount for other bidders).

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Aloha, and thank you for your response.

I guess where I get confused is that I never "typed" in 26.00---I had a max bid in at around 30.00.  All the bids from me (rather than the first) were auto bids that appeared when someone else bid higher than the current winning bid. 

I am over this though, as I said, and happy with the item I won at a very fair price.  Don't know if I'll ever be able to wrap my brain around the betting process! LOL

Mahalo for your time in explaining, and have a great weekend.

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@pali96734 wrote:

Aloha, and thank you for your response.

I guess where I get confused is that I never "typed" in 26.00---I had a max bid in at around 30.00.  All the bids from me (rather than the first) were auto bids that appeared when someone else bid higher than the current winning bid. 

I am over this though, as I said, and happy with the item I won at a very fair price.  Don't know if I'll ever be able to wrap my brain around the betting process! LOL

Mahalo for your time in explaining, and have a great weekend.


pali96734,

 

woodland_gnome is absolutely correct having stated that you typed in a $26.00 [actual] bid.

 

To help you understand what happened with this auction, I highly advise you to view all of this stuff on a computer with three windows open. One window open on this thread so that you can read the individual posts, one window opened to show the Bid History page of the actual auction, and one window opened showing your My eBay page showing your bidding activity.

 

In message #3 of your thread, I had posted the URL or link to the Bid History page of the auction itself. Whatever you do, DO NOT click the Show automatic bids button since that will just make things that much more difficult for you to follow. If you just view the specific bids that were entered by the time stamps associated with them, then, hopefully, you will garner an understanding of how bidding works on eBay.

 

In my lengthy message #7, I had explained things in a chronological order. I would think that IF you read that message one paragraph at a time and look at the Bid History page after each paragraph, then, hopefully, you will be able to follow the bidding activity as it happened bid by bid.

 

It is an indisputable fact that you had typed in an actual bid of $26.00 and you submitted that $26.00 actual bid on Apr 14 at 6:37:52 PM (Pacific Daylight Time).   On Apr 14, at 6:39:07 PM (PDT), you entered another bid which was more than $26.00 and was at least $27.77 since that is what appears to us readers when we view the Bid History page to the auction itself.

 

Since we are NOT privy to what you can see in your my eBay page showing your bidding activity or purchase history, none of us know that you had in fact entered a “max bid for around $30.00”. This is the first of any of us knowing how much you actually bid since all eBay does is only use up as much of your max bid as is necessary to keep you in the lead (or win) and when the auction price went above $25.00, the bid increment went from 50¢ to $1.00 and that is why you won for $27.77 since the other competing bidder, n***r (55), placed an actual bid of $26.77 on Apr 18 at 4:51:51 PM (PDT).

 

Make no mistake about this: You placed a total of three actual bids in that auction and each actual bid you placed has a different time stamp recorded beside it. The Bid History page shows this fact. The Bid History page to that auction states that there were 3 bidders and a total of 8 [actual] bids placed and each actual bid that was placed has a specific time stamp beside it. The bid count does not state the number of automatic bids.

 

In your my eBay page, it will only show you the LAST bid you actually entered (on Apr 18 at 3:41:10 PM (PDT) which is your maximum bid. None of us know the exact amount of your max bid.

Godzilla_Goose

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