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USPS to end First Class Mail July 9th
Has anyone else seen the article about this? Anyone here work for the postal service that may have inside information on the new fee process for the replacement service?
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kh-taylarie
·3 years agoDue to the age of this thread, it will be locked in order to keep discussions current. If you have the same or a similar question/issue we invite you to start a new thread on the topic.
sports-artifacts
·3 years agoMy first USPS Ground Advantage package. 10 days to delivery.
mam98031
·3 years ago@sports-artifacts
That would be up to 10 days. When you display your own listings using your seller ID, the shipping time will be calculated using your zip code. If I looked at your listings, it would be based on my zip code.
When I look at your listings, it says I would receive the item between 7/22 and 7/24 via Ground Advantage.
msray2000
·3 years agoIt's slow...
mam98031
·3 years agoIDK that saying 1st class parcels end, but rather renamed to Ground Advantage. Prices are the same or very close to it.
https://pe.usps.com/resources/PriceChange/July%202023%20Price%20Change%2020230526%20-%20Notice123%20-%20PDF.pdf
krazzykats
·3 years agoGreat! I can just see smaller, lighter-weight packages (1lb or under) thrown into bins with 70lb packages on top.
Why does every cost-cutting idea actually cut basic service? I will have to double wall all my 35-carton strength 6x6x4, 8x8x4 boxes to make them 70lb burst strength or be crushed.
What's next?
richard1rst
·3 years agoWell that already happens.
angiesoddities4u
·3 years agoThey are changing it... They will now have USPS Ground Advantage. This means they will use ground transportation to get packages to location instead of air. First class shipping will be ending.
mam98031
·3 years ago@angiesoddities4u
OK, you are half right. We all need to be careful when giving information to make sure it is correct so we don't cause anyone UNDUE concern.
Regular First Class mail is NOT going anywhere. It will function as it has always function. If you want to mail a payment, a card, a letter to a friend, etc., you will still be able to do that as you always have.
It is First Class PACKAGES that is changing. That is completely different from FC Letters.
https://www.usps.com/ship/ground-advantage.htm#:~:text=USPS%20Ground%20Advantage%20will%20combine,single%2C%20streamlined%20ground%20shipping%20service.
https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2023/0210-usps-ground-advantage-product-and-pricing-simplicity.htm
mam98031
·3 years agoDoes anyone have a link to what the pricing is on this new service. Commercial Rates.
nobody*s_perfect
·3 years agoA spot check of the proposed Notice 123 for July 9, 2023 shows prices that are the same for the pieces currently known as First Class packages, and about the same for packages over 1 pound, currently Parcel Select Ground (some prices a bit higher and others lower).
https://pe.usps.com/resources/PriceChange/July%202023%20Price%20Change%2020230526%20-%20Notice123%20-%20PDF.pdf
mam98031
·3 years agoThank you so much. Glad I don't have to worry about pricing.
pjcdn2005
·3 years agoThe following thread has some information about it.
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Shipping/USPS-to-replace-First-Class-Package-Retail-Ground-Parcel-Select/m-p/33549365#M439239
orangehound
·3 years ago@ogaugeminiaturefigures
The USPS is just renaming the First Class Package service, and combining it with their ground service. The new name is "USPS Ground Advantage". To be clear, the "advantage" will be for the USPS, as it will feature slower shipping times to go along with those skyrocketing prices over the last two years that we've seen for packages 9-16 ounces.
(Well, they do say that they are now giving $100 insurance on these packages, which of course means that you can now file a claim for the USPS to reject).
https://www.eseller365.com/new-usps-ground-advantage-simplify-shipping/
richard1rst
·3 years agoI have to admit I assumed the same thing. But knowing that it is coming, and since Pirateship has added Parcel Select Cubic Pricing, I looked into it and found that it is substantially cheaper than both Priority Mail and UPS.
And much to my surprise pretty much as quick as PM. Below are some real packages I have sent in the past couple of weeks. All of these shipments were sent from Nevada and were over 1 pound so first class would not have been available anyways.
shipped 2/25 (Saturday) to SC delivered 3/2
2/25 to California, delivered 2/27
2/25 to California delivered 3/1
2/25 to NJ delivered 3/2
2/27 to NJ delivered 3/1
2/27 to SC - currently in SC due for delivery 3/4
2/27 to NH delivered 3/1
2/27 to Oregon delivered 3/2
2/28 to Texas, delivered 3/2
My concerns are eased, how about yours?
deserdog
·3 years agoThe confusion about slower delivery is because first USPS announced , I think in June of last year, that they were slowing down delivery of parcels. then in August, they announced that they were upgrading delivery times of parcels to 2 to 5 days. I have also found many parcel select ground items being delivered in 2 or 3 days to zone 8, so obviously they had to go by air.
orangehound
·3 years ago@richard1rst
I was referring to First Class Package service with that comment, and I have seen some slower shipping with it, but nothing more than a couple of days.
But, you are correct that about some of the advantages that have been happening with USPS ground with packages over a pound. We've been shifting a lot of shipping to USPS ground that had been going to FedEx or UPS over the last few years.
The rules of shipping change every year, and we have to adjust every year.
pabr_8397
·3 years agoInsurance doesn't really help if the package is delivered to a locked mail box if the mail person puts it in the wrong receptacle and the owner or user of that particular receptacle are not honest!
carolynnq
·3 years agoFirst-class package service is changing in July: https://bestlifeonline.com/usps-replacing-first-class-package-service-news/#:~:text=In%20its%20PRC%20filing%2C%20the%20USPS%20gave%20a,2023%2C%20will%20be%20known%20as%20USPS%20Ground%20Advantage.%22
...The Postal Service just announced more new plans for these packages. On Feb. 10, the agency filed a proposal with the Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) to get rid of its entire existing FCPS category altogether. According to a press release, the USPS is looking to replace this service with a new offering called USPS Ground Advantage.
"USPS Ground Advantage will feature two-to five day service standards for packages up to 70 pounds," the agency said in its news release, adding that the new shipping offering has an "anticipated summer 2023 launch."
In its PRC filing, the USPS gave a more exact date for when it is planning to implement this new change: "The Postal Service expects that its retail and commercial customers will all benefit from this consolidated ground package offering, which beginning on July 9, 2023, will be known as USPS Ground Advantage."...
mam98031
·3 years agoProvide the link where you got this information from. I don't find anything on this at all.
**selling**stuff**
·3 years agobecause its not happening.. lol
selsa84
·3 years agoIts changing to ground. So yes it is happening
tonecapo
·3 years agoLol it did.
jehil-6
·3 years agoYes it did
LOL
mam98031
·3 years ago@jehil-6
Old thread. This is now in effect as of a few days ago.
Just as a note, in case you weren't aware, you still need to update your listings.