Is this new - This should help legitimate sellers that are in the US
Entirely frustrating to have sellers in other countries hijack the market by drop shipping their entire inventories from big box stores for pennies of profit. Now a potential buyer will get a warning that if you buy their item you will be responsible for Duties because the Dr Pepper Zero is coming from Pakistan. I like it, I like it. Even the playing field by unmasking the sellers that are duping buyers on their item's location.
20 comments
meme6253
·10 months agoA Big thumbs up for that!, That pennies of profit is killing the market in so many ways!
fullers_uk
·10 months agoThe blue banner warning on listings about tariffs is putting customers off buying.
I have noticed there are sellers from China openly lying about where there products are housed which is proven by the timescale they state for delivery but thats ok with ebay, no problem move along nothing to see here.
Another problem is the United Nations "Universal Postal Union" .
This sets the "Terminal costs" of the postal systems.
The postal union considers China is a developing nation (even though they have nuclear weapons) and sets Chinas postal terminal rates very very low so they are able to send a small package worldwide by post for $1.50 but if another country send the same parcel size and weight to China it would cost $14.00.
The other problem that has been going on with shipping from China both small parcels and full containers of goods is that if a company based in China has to pay the tariffs, ship duty paid, the company pays the charge then claims that charge back from the Chinese government, the tariffs have zero effect on the seller because its refunded to them.
chapeau-noir
·10 months agodroopshipting
This made me gurgle like a drain.
r_lresale
·10 months agoAnd now I did lol
mam98031
·10 months ago@orangegroveroad
I don't think it is working how you think it is. All sellers are required to have the location stated in their listings to be the correct location in which the item is shipping FROM. It does not matter where the seller is located at.
So a seller in Pakistan would not have a Pakistan address in their listings or shouldn't. They should be using the US location the drop shipping is shipping from.
roccotacodad54
·10 months agoThanks for pointing that out.
I know your reply wasn't to me but it made me realize it won't affect dropshipping from elsewhere.
I must be more tired than I thought...............
mam98031
·10 months agoGlad I could help.
orangegroveroad
OP10 months agoI know that but many sellers don't bother to make the change and it is a fast warning to a buyer to avoid purchasing from them. So many sellers. from China make up cities in the US for their item location but if you actually go into the about section of the ID they are indeed from China. Their entire inventory is being supplied by big box here. Go into dickies 6 pack socks, for example. Listing after listing, same stock photos, same descriptions, same spelling errors. All various US locatons, all Chinese sellers, most....not all. There is no way a legit US seller can compete on price. I even had communications with one seller just out of curiousity. It was a joke, then they sent me 15% offers. It is frustrating but ebay won't stop it....they would lose fees.
mam98031
·10 months agoIf a buyer isn't paying close enough attention to where the item is shipping from, that is on the buyer. And those that aren't paying attention and buy for one of these sellers, would likely end up pleasantly surprised that the item arrived so fast.
I agree with you that it is primarily sellers from China that break this rule. When you run across listings that misrepresent their ship from location, report them. I know that sellers from China are regular offenders of what you are describing.
https://www.ebay.com/help/action?topicid=4022
AND or use the "?" icon on the right side of the listing and report the listing.
orangegroveroad
OP10 months agoOh I went through a period where I was reporting listing after listing and the responses were a joke. "To summarize" we see no problem with this listing....carry on. It is not my job to do the job of an ebay agent. But see, it is not in ebay's best interest to do much about it. More listing fees more final value fees. Same thing goes for expiration dates for food and drink. That is a mess. The comments are usually something like "always fresh", at least a year in the future, or nothing at all. Immediate indication that seller has never nor will ever come into contact with said product. Chinese seller after Chinese seller. Stock photo after stock photo with the same import verbiage and descriptions. errors. When I come across these sellers if I sell the same product, I know that there is no way they have a clue what they are selling. FRUSTRATING as they give ebay a bad rap.
fullers_uk
·10 months agoI understand what you say about " I know that there is no way they have a clue what they are selling" The items I sell are all measured correctly and made to industry standard but more expensive than products made in china that they sell. I also fully understand that its easy to become a fee paying ebay agent (seller) there seems a big dynamic problem between sellers and ebay, sellers are customers but ebay view us as fee paying interns.
rseuqinh
·10 months agoNo, your not unerstanping yourself. eBay doesn't require the seller's to sleep with there inventory.
So because they did bother to change the location to Shatfeld Abalama in order to sell there droopshipting, their is no warning to a buyer that the seller is still in China, even with this new change.
broto_64
·10 months agoWhere I am curious, is how is this even profitable?
They must be making pennies per sale, and I can't imagine with returns (because I'm sure they get a few of those) how they'd even be making anything at all.
The culprit however, are the sites facilitating the nonsense.
I can assure you as well, the CEO's are the only ones getting rich, probably why it's so well supported.
Ebay, Amazon, Walmart, whoever else ...
They literally don't want us, they want the dropshippers.
And yes it is frustrating as a buyer to go down a slew of listings all the SAME exact product!
And here's the best part:
When one of them runs "out of stock" (which is actually their supplier running out) - there is no inventory control, their items are still up for sale, you buy one and then the seller cancels for a reason such as "problem with buyer's address" although lately they've come up with a go-around for that as well since some buyers have started reporting those sellers who did that... But it's not over... So you go order from another seller, and if it's the same product your purchase from that seller will also get cancelled, and the next one and the one after that too and on, and on...
And to some degree, with a few products I see it already: There is literally no other choice.
The dropshippers have drowned out the regular sellers with their spam listings.
There are literally products already for which regular sellers have stopped trying to compete, let the dropshippers take over, let them compete against themselves because their multiple listings drowns out the regular seller's listing. And so it eliminates the choice for buyers.
That to me is the worst part of it.
Dropshippers to me are the bane of online marketplaces, they will literally spell the end of it all and just like the marketing fiasco of the original dotcom crash of circa y2k this will also require a complete teardown and rebuild, with many bloody noses and scraped knees along the way.
Will humans ever learn?
I doubt it, oh and please don't start on me with AI.
roccotacodad54
·10 months agoI like it as well. Too bad it takes import duties to expose sellers actual location without having to play detective.
It might be short lived though if the de minimus rule is revived.
Only time will tell.........................
chapeau-noir
·10 months agoUnless I'm misunderstanding, I've been under the impression that the Dr Pepper Zero is coming from a seller in Pakistan who is drop shipping from the US. No one in their right mind is going to be buying most commodities that you can easily get here (I know the DP was an example) from the subcontinent. I don't know why these sellers keep doing this, then coming here begging to know why it's not working.
It's the avalanche of cheap stuff from China this might affect, though.
broto_64
·10 months agoI thought about this today...
I've been involved in some other ventures where equally mindless things happen and frequently.
Those of us discussing the issues among ourselves have come to the general conclusion that these are people who have no clue as to how to run a business, they've never ran one and this is somehow how they perceive (or think) it should be done...
I've been there, it took me several tries before I got it down.
Each try took a chunk of time, effort and money.
chapeau-noir
·10 months agoI agree - also there's the susceptibility to get-rich YouTube spam and other scam that push this sort of thing.
toysaver
·10 months ago"No one in their right mind is going to be buying most commodities that you can easily get here"
That's the real problem, many people are not in their right mind.
chapeau-noir
·10 months agoWell, you're not wrong there.
broto_64
·10 months agoIt frustrates me as well, not even their inventories but a big box store's...
Sadly Amazon and Walmart are overrun by this nonsense as well, and worse is they'll accept such a seller before they accept one of us.