How much longer can the stock of eBay increase when we are seeing 12% decreasing of sellers
I'm starting to wonder how much longer we can see they 12% decrease each year of sellers and still see the price of eBay stock maintain its value. Once Wall Street realizes that these are artificial increases caused by the seller percentages being manipulated by upper management of CEO, I believe we will start to see a collapse in the eBay structure and its price forms. Eventually it will become too expensive for many individuals, even myself, to sell on eBay. After many outcries I see no reply from any management, instead I have only seen callousness and our emails never answered. I am listing this discussion here so that I may also show a copy of it on the stock discussion groups.
It is the only way to prevent eBay from being destroyed by its current management. I am myself now we're not only be considering leaving eBay as my selling platform but also, I will now start selling my eBay stock.
Hopefully someone will wake up and bring a end to this nonsense that is currently happening to this once fine company.
nichtr_78
·3 years agoStock buy backs and leverage
dbfolks166mt
·3 years agoYou need to understand what drives stock prices and it is not the number of sellers or even the number of buyers although they are minor factors. What appeals to shareholder and drives the stock price is profit and in eBay's case, dividend payments. Take a comprehensive look at eBay's quarterly and annual reports and you note that they are doing a pretty good job of maintaining their profit margin balancing revenues and expenses and they are still paying dividends every quarter.
retro_entertainment_collectibles
·3 years agoYep. In part anyways. It's actually rather surprising coming off the Pandemic (not that we are mind you) that they have done so well. Everyone can do as they wish cite why's and wherefore but eBay isn't Amastone's nor WhaleMart nor bare a great deal in common. Given the near full court press towards retail it's actually pretty impressive from a corporate perspective that eBay hasn't taken a substantial beating. Naysayers aside eBay's done a rather remarkable job over many many years.
strugglinlikeyou
·3 years agoSellers that only make a buck or two on sales won't be here for long.
mam98031
·3 years agoThey have been here for about 26+ years so far.
chapeau-noir
·3 years agoOh, there's an ever renewing cohort, definitely.
mam98031
·3 years agoYes, we have always had sellers that sell low value items for a low value profit.
iamalwaysright
·3 years agoYup. And then they get immediately replaced by the next wave of ignorant sellers who will also end up quitting. Lather, rinse, repeat.
stainlessenginecovers
·3 years agoWith a 1500% increase in sellers the past 10 years, they can afford to:
Drop 50% of them and there will STILL be 40,000 pair of size 7 black women shoes to choose from and ebay will STILL make the same money; since a buyer is a buyer is $$ in the kitty.
Besides that, PLS, PLA, Vault, Fee increase, PLS increase, Authentication etc etc only makes eBay more money.
More Money = decent stocks. Since stock market is down about 10% from 2 years ago, staying 'Flat' during this time is just peachy.
mam98031
·3 years agoThere is another side to that. The costs that went up over the past decade for Ebay. They certainly are not the same today as they were 10 years ago.
stainlessenginecovers
·3 years agoTrue that...
retro_entertainment_collectibles
·3 years agoYou're completely missing where pressures are coming from.
This "Once fine company" is still a fine company but they need react to what's coming and what's coming is similar to whats coming for Social media which means forums, blogs, chat rooms the works as well as online gaming. The Internet is going to grow up, like it or not at this point as eBay can no more control what buyers nor seller engage in than Twitter can control what users say or do. That's the beef.
inhawaii
·3 years agoI'm a ebay seller.
I don't look at, keep track of or care what ebay stock is doing.
femmefan1946
·3 years agoThe number of sellers is much less important than the number of buyers.
When buyers leave or do not shop here, sales drop.
When sellers leave those left get more sales.
At least in principle.
kabilab
·3 years agoA stock's value is only generally of concern to investors. Short term traders, whether long or short, focus on an opportunity to profit. I am not an investor, but netted a pretty penny last year trading e-Bay puts. I did not, though, buy calls on the upswing, as the risk : reward did not fit my tolerance.
mam98031
·3 years agoQuite a long time I would guess.
"Once Wall Street realizes that these are artificial increases caused by the seller percentages being manipulated by upper management of CEO, I believe we will start to see a collapse in the eBay structure and its price forms." WOW that is quite an accusation. Do you have proof of that or is it something you are just throwing out there to see what happens?
There are other sites that charge more than Ebay does and other sites that charge less. Each of us just need to decide what our best fit is and which is more important, sales or the fees we pay to the site. You often can't have both.
"After many outcries I see no reply from any management, instead I have only seen callousness and our emails never answered." Where are you sending your emails to? That may have something to do with it.
chapeau-noir
·3 years agoI actually don't care about the decrease of sellers, I care about the decrease in buyers.
vintagecraze50
·3 years agoThe biggest challenge we all face right now as sellers is obtaining inventory at the best prices and being able to sell them for a good price. The inflation we are dealing with right now is a Killer PROBLEM.
chapeau-noir
·3 years agoBut is it? I see a lot of crying and catastrophizing, but the secondary market is doing very well - it's the option in any kind of economic stress which, BTW, is easing.
iamalwaysright
·3 years agoI care about the decrease in sellers. Right now, the higher the decrease the better.
mam98031
·3 years agoWhat IS cause for concern is the decreasing number of BUYERS !!!!!
chapeau-noir
·3 years agoThat right there! ðŸ˜
yuzuha
·3 years agoAgreed. We would all benefit from losing the "yard sale" sellers who are selling their items at such rock-bottom prices that they're only making $1-2 in profit per item or even selling at a loss. All those sellers do is drag the market down for everyone else.
meme6253
·3 years agoI kept hearing about layoffs, But I actually didn't know you could layoff buyers!!
mam98031
·3 years agoNot a joke. About 400-500 people recently lost their jobs with Ebay.
bamorris
·3 years agoI thought about shorting the stock into the next earnings call given all we've seen about the sales complaints.
Or buy some cheap puts.
luckythewinner
·3 years agoSellers have been complaining about sales regularly on this board for decades.
inhawaii
·3 years agoDeath.
Taxes.
Complaints about ebay sales.
theteamsetguy
·3 years ago@bamorris ,
How many sellers come here to complain they have too many sellers? My point is there are plenty sellers here doing well but there is no reason for any of them to come here and post.
You only see the complainers.
jman0312
·3 years agoThey weren't complaining, they are wondering why this company's management is making the decisions they do. Sellers aren't interested in seeing the word "complainers" when they ask for help/input in this forum.
luckythewinner
·3 years agoHow much longer can the stock of eBay increase when we are seeing 12% decreasing of sellers
The number of sellers has no bearing on the stock price. Unless a seller has unique items, a seller leaving does not affect eBay sales. Buyers will simply buy a similar item from a similar seller at a similar price.
an-57470
·3 years agoyou are forgetting the store fees many sellers pay - when they are gone somethings to make up the difference - hence increased fees result
mam98031
·3 years agoOften the benefits that come with a store level pays for the monthly fee for the store. Lower FVF, more free listings, branded shipping supply coupon, etc.
anjofak
·3 years agoUntil you go to login one day and it's gone, then a few months go by and people start noticing, and 💥 boom they fled the boarders..
chapeau-noir
·3 years agoI understand what you're saying, but if you do some searches here, you'll see that this subject has been discussed a fair amount, so you can glean some insights there. You also may want to read Value Added Resource's blog concerning Jamie CEO's vertical strategies and the last earnings call - the writer gives a well researched overview and analysis. As long as eBay continues to show profits and dividends to shareholders, they will continue in their present course, and in a late stage capitalism system, it's business as usual.
xadexane
·3 years agoNo relationship, just as whether bluebonnets showing up in Texas will affect eBay sales.