How much do you make?
Summary: La discusión gira en torno al uso de etiquetas de envío compradas a través de eBay y cómo manejar problemas de envío, como la pérdida de paquetes. itsjustasprain explica que cuando se compra una etiqueta de USPS a través de eBay, en realidad es una transacción entre el usuario y USPS, por lo que cualquier problema debería ser reportado a USPS, no a eBay. a_c_green añade que si un paquete se pierde, USPS tiene un proceso de reclamación para reembolsar el valor del paquete y el costo de envío. Esto contrasta con el proceso de comprar etiquetas directamente en la oficina postal. La conversación aclara la función de eBay como intermediario y no como responsable directo en casos de problemas de envío.
So on a purchase of 177 dollars
157 being the actual , 20 being for shipping
Ebay takes 26 dollars profit for the listing ..
16 dollars for shipping label but later will add 4.88 because I guess USPS can change it to any number they choose after the fact and ebay will pay then charge then take the money out of the bank account you are forced to hold...... so I end up 128.31?
I can see that now selling anything for low dollars dollars will end up with it costing me to sell it so I might aw well just throw it away unless I can find someone to buy it outside of ebay.
So my question is is it cheaper to use ebay lables or just take it to the post office yourself since ebay will just charge your account?
luckythewinner
·4 months agoeBay labels are never more expensive than the USPS, and in many cases are much cheaper.
The USPS did not "change it any number they choose after the fact". If the USPS adjusted your label, it is because they determined that you made a mistake when you bought thge label.
12345jamesstamps
·4 months agoI have sold action figures in boxes in the past and $20.00 seems a little high for shipping.
So getting charged more is rather strange.
But I had gone into the post office and had the USPS ship them.
I don't like getting charged later extra.
I get a receipt from the post office and if it is lost I only have to deal with the post office.
Using an eBay label you might get the 'ring around the roses'...where the post office saids it is an eBay problem and eBay saids it is a post office problem.
I hear this all the time here...and how long it takes for a refund if it is lost between eBay or the post office.
itsjustasprain
·4 months agoIn what situation does that happen? You are not buying an 'Ebay label' - you are buying a USPS label via Pitney-Bowes. Ebay is just a conduit for payment. The label you get is an actual USPS label and its tracking has already been uploaded for you.
12345jamesstamps
·4 months ago'you are buying a USPS label via Pitney - Bowes' here on eBay...and the item gets lost in shipping.
You contact who?...eBay or USPS?...you make a request through a refund here on eBay I assume since the label came here from the eBay site.
Don't need any documentation and refund will be automatically I assume.
Just trying to understand who and how a refund will happen.
Just curious.
a_c_green
·4 months agoNo, this is strictly a transaction between you and USPS, with eBay acting solely as a conduit for your payment (which actually goes to Pitney-Bowes, which validates your Ship-To: address against the USPS database and subsequently issues the label). If the package appears to be lost in shipping, you contact USPS to file a claim. Here's your starting point: https://www.usps.com/help/missing-mail.htm
For a missing mail claim, you establish the package value by providing USPS with the the Order Details for the sale. USPS themselves had the tracking number from the beginning, so their investigation looks at their own tracking of the package, where and when it was last seen, etc. If it's gone missing for a long-enough period of time (determined by the class of service), USPS will refund you for the package value (up to the coverage limit) and the postage paid.
In my experience, a Missing Mail claim is easy to win because the USPS has their own tracking records to show that they had the package and then they lost it. It's easier than a Damage claim, for which you need to not only establish value but also prove that you packed it securely enough to withstand "normal" handling.
fern*wood
·4 months agoI don’t think you are understanding what you hear about usps labels.
12345jamesstamps
·4 months agoIf I visit the post office and have a clerk add the postage there is a tracking number which I can add to item shipped in eBay site.
I get a receipt with tracking on it.
I understand it is a postage label from the post office only.
I have free shipping and decide if I want certified, priority or registered.
So I am only dealing with the post office as an item lost.
Am I misunderstanding something?
a_c_green
·4 months agoRight, although that label is the same in all respects as the one you can purchase on-line via eBay. What you paid for it is different, however: full retail at the post office counter vs. on-line pricing through eBay (or PirateShip, or other on-line postage providers).
If the item is lost, you're dealing solely with the post office, yes. eBay is not involved beyond ensuring that the buyer gets refunded by you. The post office reimburses you for that refund.
comics_from_mars
·4 months agoSadly, eBay is not for sellers. They destroy us with their greedy fees, which is why a lot of people are leaving, including me. In fact, ive pulled 90% of my products off here. As a comic book seller, there is no way to make a profit on here, and theres too many cheapskates who want deals, which in turn, lowers the value of comics. I wont participate in that.
authentic*vintage
·4 months agoThere are plenty of sellers on other platforms who would lead one to believe they are raking in massive profits on ebay but here is a reality check:
Actual sale:
What your buyer paid
What you earned
meme6253
·4 months agoYep, for me selling low is a no go. shipping through eBay is more cost effective.
inhawaii
·4 months agoQ: So my question is is it cheaper to use ebay lables or just take it to the post office yourself ?
A: Cheaper to use ebay labels (and more convenient).
However...
There is a CON to using ebay labels.
If you screw up calculating the postage, you will get charged the extra later.
There is a PRO to taking it to the post office.
They will get the postage right and even if they don't, they wont charge you later.
debg-07
·4 months agoA lot of times I actually lose. Seems like you can’t get buyers to pay what you need to charge to cover postage and fees to make a very small profit I’m not sure if they realize what all you are charged on a sale.
kibble-net
·4 months agoNot every item that you can sell, is worth selling.
The more you sell, the more you will learn the value of things.
Trial and error.
soh.maryl
·4 months agoCan't state this for certain, but I doubt if there are very many buyers, if any, who are concerned about whether or not a seller is making any money on a sale. And most buyers who don't sell have no idea what eBay fees are.
jonathanbrightlight
·4 months agoYep, and no buyer should ever have to think about that. Sellers are the ones who decide if they sell it for enough to m a ke a profit.
inhawaii
·4 months agoAlways charge the customer enough shipping to at least cover the actual cost.
If they don't want to pay what you are asking for shipping, no sale.
You should never lose money.
hartungcards
·4 months ago"You should never lose money."
Unless you're building an ostentatious and totally unnecessary ballroom.
iamalwaysright
·4 months agoIf this is true for you, then it seems you are contributing to the problem that you are complaining about. I never lose money on shipping unless the buyer finagled a false not as described return or payment dispute.
chapeau-noir
·4 months agoI've never understood preemptive blame. Look for the cause - underweight estimation or USPS error.
iamalwaysright
·4 months agoPeople who do that are excellent troubleshooters.
chapeau-noir
·4 months agoIt seems to me like they just make the facts fit their theory.
adamcartwright
·4 months ago@littletinybun
If the USPS tells you your package was a different weight and/or dimensions than you know it was, you can dispute that.
I had it happen recently, and they ended up refunding me.
1786davycrockett
·4 months ago@littletinybun
Did you possibly ship that Darth Vader action figure inside a USPS Priority package, but only charged for Ground Advantage?
That could be the reason that you were charged an additional $4.88.
lb23cavaliersmvp
·4 months agoAssuming you indicate the weight and dimensions accurately ebay tells you the % you are saving purchasing labels through them. We only ship USPS and the savings range from ~ 20% to as much as 58%. As others have said why is it a surprise what you net take home will be on any sale?
inhawaii
·4 months agoSelf deleted.
Totally misunderstood the question.
I'm getting old.
soh.maryl
·4 months ago"You know about what you'll pay for tax . . ."
If you're referring to state sales tax, isn't your buyer paying that?
inhawaii
·4 months agoYou are correct.
I was a bit unclear.
I meant .... figure that your buyer will pay 10% tax and you will have to figure ebay's fees on that.
darn_yankee
·4 months ago"...but later will add 4.88 because I guess USPS can change it to any number they choose after the fact..."
I can understand why you might want to think this is true. In reality, you understated the final shipping weight and package dimensions for your listing. Buy a scale if you don't already have one. You need to do a better job of estimating your shipping weight and dimensions. You might consider spending some time packing your item for shipping before you post your listing: Then you can get a true reading on weight and dimensions.
eBay offers discounts on shipping labels. It's going to be cheaper to buy them from eBay compared to the Post Office.
itsjustasprain
·4 months agoIf you accurately weigh and measure the package you will not have to worry about USPS having to correct it later. An inexpensive digital scale can pay for itself pretty quick in savings because you do not have to guesstimate.
Keep in mind that your time spent working on your sales is worth something too. Think of whether you could be making more money doing something else instead and then proceed on that basis.
That is easy: you buy your postage on-line for the on-line discount. If you buy it at the post office you are paying full retail. The difference can be measured in dollars per package. (Ebay is going to charge the same percentage regardless of where you buy your postage because their fees are based on the buyer payment.) Accurately weigh and measure your package and then you can be confident in the amount of postage you will need to pay. Good luck.
mamacassidy
·4 months agoIf you were charged additional fees after you mailed it, then USPS is saying that you did not use the correct weight or measurements.
If you think you did actually use the correct weight and measurements, then you should use the link in the message ebay sent you to dispute the charge. There is a pretty good chance they will overturn it.
In any case, it will always be cheaper to buy the ebay discounted labels than to pay retail rates at the post office.
krazzykats
·4 months agoI hate waiting in lines, so I always avoid buying at the counter.
More cost-effective and time-efficient online.
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kensgiftshop
·4 months agoShipping is cheaper buying through Ebay then it is at the PO.