Ok...it might be a rip-off to you if you dont think you are receiving any value for the fee, that's up to each person perspective....but if suing over it, what would be the legal theory you'd use? And "I just dont like it" doesnt work....
While it is absolutely ludicrous to be charged a fee for money that was never yours and never touched your hands...what you get in exchange for that fee is infinitely more valuable.
That ebay refuses to showcase this as a feature and properly explain this is
Ebay will be sued (successfully) when Walmart, Kohls, Macy's, Home Depot, Lowes, Kmart, Sears, Albertsons, Piglywigly, Vons, Safeway, Smiths, CVS, Walgreens, RiteAid, Taco Bell, Carls Jr., McDonalds, Del Taco, KFC, Churchs etc etc ect are successfully sued- as they ALL pay their Processor on the
@amapo5911 I see this is your first post. WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY! Now, may I direct you to a wonder of technology -at the top of the screen you find a search bar, where if you type in words like "tax" and "fees" and "sue eBay" you will find a wonderland of discussions already had about these topics.
Talk about a rip off. ebay been sued over this yet?
Um…nope…not going to happen.
Credit card companies haven’t been sued either and they have been charging merchants fees on sales tax for decades.
I think the bottom line here is that eBay charges are calculated on the buyer's payment, in the same manner that credit-card companies bill merchants accepting credit cards; is that right?
Not to be picky on purpose, but not all 50 states collect sales tax.
Fair, but then within the states that do, there are hundreds/thousands of different tax jurisdictions to be taken into account. It would be a ridiculous amount of work if the laws worked that way.
Instead, lawmakers didn't want to give up tax revenue but recognized it would be impossible to enforce tax collection from each seller, so they put the burden on the marketplaces, and when they did, they allowed or did not forbid eBay and the other marketplaces from collecting fees on the total including taxes (standard for payment processors, as noted by others), so it is therefore legal for eBay to do so.
I haven't checked, @amapo5911 , but I would bet someone (probably multiple someones) have indeed sued eBay, and had the cases dismissed or ruled in eBay's favor, or else had sued a different marketplace, and that case precedent means that any cases filed against eBay would be dismissed or ruled in eBay's favor very easily unless they could present some new evidence or argument.
All of the comments to date, have been logical and informative. My post will take a slightly different slant.
As a child in the 40s and 50s, my grandmother taught me an adage that has significantly contributed to both success and peace of mind in business. I quote, "If you don't like the peaches, don't shake the tree."
No they haven't because they are providing a service where they collect sales tax and give it to the state which requires it. It actually helps sellers to not worry about doing book work and paying out sales tax. You will find that maybe some dishonest sellers keep the sales tax and not file. That will create problems so it's best Ebay does it this way. So no its not a rip off.
Yes, final value fees are charged on (purchase price + shipping + sales tax). When you sign EBAY User Agreement you agreed to EBAY terms and regulations.
Nothing is free, EBAY has to hire thousands of accountants to properly "collect and remit sales tax" to all the different states in the USA. Otherwise, Sellers would be responsible for filing different "sales tax" forms to all states. This would be a bookkeeping "nightmare" for the Sellers.
ryry-jj
·4 months agoOk...it might be a rip-off to you if you dont think you are receiving any value for the fee, that's up to each person perspective....but if suing over it, what would be the legal theory you'd use? And "I just dont like it" doesnt work....
kandf_vintage_finds
·4 months agosued? LOL!
luckythewinner
·4 months agoNope. Neither have credit card companies, who have been collecting fees on sales tax froms tores for 50 years.
monica-sells
·4 months agoI thought maybe a week could pass before......
inhawaii
·4 months agoThat and... "How do I come back from a permanent suspension?"
inhawaii
·4 months agoIt would be kind of silly to sue for something that is totally legal and something that you agree to.
iamalwaysright
·4 months agoWelcome to the American dream!
grand-and-glorious-purpose
·4 months agoWhile it is absolutely ludicrous to be charged a fee for money that was never yours and never touched your hands...what you get in exchange for that fee is infinitely more valuable.
That ebay refuses to showcase this as a feature and properly explain this is
...7 YEARS LATE
stainlessenginecovers
·4 months agoEbay will be sued (successfully) when Walmart, Kohls, Macy's, Home Depot, Lowes, Kmart, Sears, Albertsons, Piglywigly, Vons, Safeway, Smiths, CVS, Walgreens, RiteAid, Taco Bell, Carls Jr., McDonalds, Del Taco, KFC, Churchs etc etc ect are successfully sued- as they ALL pay their Processor on the
TOTAL at the Register, which...
wait for it......
Includes Sales Tax!!
gurlcat
·4 months ago@amapo5911 I see this is your first post. WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY!
Now, may I direct you to a wonder of technology -at the top of the screen you find a search bar, where if you type in words like "tax" and "fees" and "sue eBay" you will find a wonderland of discussions already had about these topics.
krazzykats
·4 months agoI live in a state with no sales tax, and I used to debate this, but sales tax is based on the delivery location.
If I buy something and have it shipped to a state with sales tax, like California, I end up paying that state’s tax.
It's just the way it works whether I like it or not.
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Unavailable member
·4 months agoUm…nope…not going to happen.
Credit card companies haven’t been sued either and they have been charging merchants fees on sales tax for decades.
a_c_green
·4 months agoI think the bottom line here is that eBay charges are calculated on the buyer's payment, in the same manner that credit-card companies bill merchants accepting credit cards; is that right?
chapeau-noir
·4 months agoThis topic - it's like deja vu all over again.
iamalwaysright
·4 months agoWait’ll they find out buyers can’t receive negatives.
monroe67
·4 months ago"ebay been sued over this yet?"
If anybody has sued eBay over their fees on sales taxes, those lawsuits have failed,
because of reasons other posters have already stated:
It is not illegal for eBay to charge fees on the total amount paid by buyers.
AND
eBay's fee structure is clear and transparent.
kibble-net
·4 months agoIf you feel it's unfair, delete your account and go sell somewhere else.
Personally, I'm fine with them doing this and filing sales tax with all 50 states on my behalf.
Do you know how much an accountant costs per hour?
Do you know how much a lawyer costs per hour?
Take your time. I can wait.
varebelrose
·4 months agoNot to be picky on purpose, but not all 50 states collect sales tax.
jonathanbrightlight
·4 months agoFair, but then within the states that do, there are hundreds/thousands of different tax jurisdictions to be taken into account. It would be a ridiculous amount of work if the laws worked that way.
Instead, lawmakers didn't want to give up tax revenue but recognized it would be impossible to enforce tax collection from each seller, so they put the burden on the marketplaces, and when they did, they allowed or did not forbid eBay and the other marketplaces from collecting fees on the total including taxes (standard for payment processors, as noted by others), so it is therefore legal for eBay to do so.
I haven't checked, @amapo5911 , but I would bet someone (probably multiple someones) have indeed sued eBay, and had the cases dismissed or ruled in eBay's favor, or else had sued a different marketplace, and that case precedent means that any cases filed against eBay would be dismissed or ruled in eBay's favor very easily unless they could present some new evidence or argument.
kensgiftshop
·4 months ago@amapo5911
Sued for what, it's not illegal.
kabilab
·4 months agoAll of the comments to date, have been logical and informative. My post will take a slightly different slant.
As a child in the 40s and 50s, my grandmother taught me an adage that has significantly contributed to both success and peace of mind in business. I quote, "If you don't like the peaches, don't shake the tree."
heckofagame
·4 months agoI was beginning to miss this topic...
bonanza125
·4 months agoNo they haven't because they are providing a service where they collect sales tax and give it to the state which requires it. It actually helps sellers to not worry about doing book work and paying out sales tax. You will find that maybe some dishonest sellers keep the sales tax and not file. That will create problems so it's best Ebay does it this way. So no its not a rip off.
marnotom!
·4 months agoHas PayPal faced legal action for basing its fees on the entire transaction value? How about credit card payment processors in general?
soh.maryl
·4 months agoYou have been on eBay for quite awhile. Did you just realize eBay's fee schedule, which is clearly described in several locations?
And, do you really want to have to keep track of the state sales tax amounts for thousands of different cities, towns, counties etc?
caldreamer
·4 months agoYes, final value fees are charged on (purchase price + shipping + sales tax). When you sign EBAY User Agreement you agreed to EBAY terms and regulations.
Nothing is free, EBAY has to hire thousands of accountants to properly "collect and remit sales tax" to all the different states in the USA. Otherwise, Sellers would be responsible for filing different "sales tax" forms to all states. This would be a bookkeeping "nightmare" for the Sellers.
fern*wood
·4 months agoDo you really prefer to collect and remit the sales tax to states & cities across the country? I don't.
luckythewinner
·4 months agoeBay is required by law to collect and remit sales tax on our behalf, whether or not they charge us a fee on that sales tax.
To suggest that there are only two possible options is a logical fallacy.
jameshen1
·4 months agoNo. Why don't you go ahead and be the first? And let us know how that works out for you.
marnotom!
·4 months agoOn what grounds?