Current bid winner is claiming they just bidding so I never can never sell the item.
I have a auction going on and a buyer who is winning the bid, and has been the whole time just sent a message saying "I’m bidding just so these don’t sell" so I'm assuming they are not going to pay I told them then I'm removing your bids. They responded with "I have many accountsðŸ¤". reporting and getting the accounts banned will do nothing if they just keep coming back, same with me making a new listing. What should I do about this?
47 comments
kalyoth
·11 months agoAssuming you have placed the bidder on ur naughty list so they can't even bid to begin with? We have blocked user lists available.
gurlcat
·11 months agoThe bidder said they have multiple accounts. It's right in the (rather short) ^original post^.
krazzykats
·11 months agoYou have a Sport Bidder.
End the listing and create a Buy it now with immediate payment instead.
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janet9988
·11 months agoNot a good idea. The seller will pay penalty fees.
relicpeddler
·11 months agoCancel his bids 1 minute before the end of the auction and then block him. Or if he wins and don't pay send a 2nd chance offer the the 2nd highest bidder.
gurlcat
·11 months agoI am sorry but I just find this post dubious. It's hard enough to think of reasons why someone would want to derail an auction (like why would even another JNCO seller do it? -the higher the winning bid on this listing, the higher the recent historic value overall, which would help the value of their own inventory). But okay even if there's some reason I'm not thinking of, I challenge anyone to come up with a logical reason why that person would make a point of TELLING the seller they are doing it, and that they'll keep doing it with multiple accounts.
If ever there was a situation where eBay might pull out all the stops, use whatever tech needed, maybe even seek cooperation from a VPN company if this person uses one, to track down their real identity and FULLY ban them from eBay, this would be it. Hosting an auction for 7 days isn't free, and losing the trust of the other bidders is especially damaging. So if they can see the messages of a bidder saying outright he plans to thwart every attempt at auctions proceeding as normal, that has to be a big deal. And even if I'm wrong and there's ultimately nothing they could do, would that (theoretical) bidder know that?
I just don't see someone taking such a risk, especially with no conceivable reward.
rugerskick
·11 months agoIts to damage his account. We've had sellers report here they have had issues buying from another seller, only for the other seller to buy something from their store in order to leave them negative spite feedback and damge their account. Plus he knows as a buyer ebay is far less likely to do much about it, but in this case they might because he admits multiple accounts and is blatant about using the account and purchases against ebay policy to intentionally cause harm to a sellers account/reputation.
So yes, it makes complete sense. You look at it from a normal buyer/seller perspective. You aren't looking at it from a bad buyer/scammer/bad seller perspective. These types of people exist here.
gurlcat
·11 months agoHow would a seller's account be damaged by not getting paid by the winning bidder of an auction? If they don't pay they won't even be able to leave feedback. And why would the bidder tell the seller mid-auction that they're not going to pay?
an-57470
·11 months ago@gurlcat
Unsportsman-like conduct/taunting… 15-yard penalty.
gurlcat
·11 months agoExactly, so the only account that will be harmed is the bidder's, for a non-payment strike and hopefully having their messages reported to eBay. Not that it would affect any of their other "many" accounts, but who knows, maybe eBay does have ways.
rugerskick
·11 months agoThats not true. Report them. Ebay has all the emails and they know this person, they will also be able to link them to their other "many accounts". Ask for fraud and security people to talk to.
simba6
·11 months agoYou got a real doozie. Save all their messages. eBay can detect when they using other accounts and will ban them all. There is a report button on all eBay messages. I would report it as that will get it entered and eBay will see it if you later have to report other abuse.
gone.c-33
·11 months agoI believe the reason they are so thick is so they flare out and show the world how WIDE your pant legs are.
I got a pair for $5 at Goodwill, thinking it would be funny: my sole somehow got caught inside the pant leg and I almost died going down the stairs. Please reminisce safely!
meme6253
·11 months agoThis is so Wrong in so many ways!!, Ebay should be able to suspend or cancel ALL of this individuals accounts, Try contacting them
pickapaper
·11 months ago@soh.maryl
Lot of time involved in doing what you suggest. Plus, the jerk told OP he has "many accounts" so he will just move to another account and pull the same stuff.
soh.maryl
·11 months agoThank you. Have recently taken to offering questionable solutions so that some eBayers have a chance to jump in and correct me.
jonathanbrightlight
·11 months agoThey say that the best way to get a correct answer on the internet is to post an incorrect one.
powell-collectibles
·11 months agoAll sounds very dramatic!
soh.maryl
·11 months agoSo it wouldn't work to just let him win, doesn't pay, cancel citing "didn't pay".
List again, he wins, doesn't pay, cancel as above.
So now he has 2 nonpaying strikes. You can set up your listings so that you don't have to deal with such a seller. Other sellers have done the same.
Or is that just too simplistic?
jonathanbrightlight
·11 months agoThat only works if they do all that with the same account, and would only block that account from bidding. If they’re willing to harass the seller with multiple buying accounts, it could easily become far more damaging.
habibwahab
·11 months agook but if ur not planning to pay then pls stop bidding, it messes things up for actual buyers. i'll report the accnt either way. not much else i can do but i'll relist if needed.
krazzykats
·11 months agoWhat makes this brand so collectible, the little bit of embroidery?
Just curious. Levis work for me, and cost way less...and I really prefer a pretty rhinestone decorated pocket anyway.
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gurlcat
·11 months agoThey were made with HUGE wide legs.
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoIt's the whole 90s vibe and everything that surrounds it. Can't blame them - I really miss the 90s, too.
slippinjimmy
·11 months agoYeah, I live across the street from a High School, the 90's are definitely back. I'm seeing the following trends....
Baggy sweat pants.
Girls that look like Britney Spears at her peak
Grunge style plaid shirts
Skin tight leggings seem to have gone away if you are under age 30.
I'm plenty old enough to see these 25+ year old fashion trends come back over over again. I keep waiting for bell bottoms with inserts (a la Jimi Hendrix) to make a comeback.
gurlcat
·11 months agoI'll believe these messages actually happened when I see screenshots of them.
adamcartwright
·11 months ago@gurlcat
Note to self -- Source JNCO brand, by hook or crook
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoGood luck on that. 😞
I've never seen a pair go for $1000 or even $500, but I haven't seen every pair sold.
richard1rst
·11 months agoBig A has a bunch at around $50.00. Really fancy. Can't see wearing them myself but really eye catching.
Walmart also less plainer versions also in the $50 range.
gurlcat
·11 months agoI remember when my boyfriend in 1993 got a pair. I think I'll send him a shot of this auction when it closes, he'll be shocked. It was NOT a popular brand back then, in fact I think he got his pair at Walmart. They definitely weren't pricey; I know that much because he wouldn't splurge on an-y-thing.
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoJNCO was all I wore for quite a while. My favourite were the Pipes, but I had some Slackers - great embroidery of a guy sprawled out in a laz-e-boy! I got rid of my last pair a couple of years ago - they never seemed to wear out!
ETA: They had legs all the way from straight to giant, yes.
They fit me perfectly.
Is that one guy wearing a fez?
richard1rst
·11 months agoWe all know that fashions recycle. They look a little bit like me to a partial resurrection of the Zoot Suits.
gurlcat
·11 months agoI can believe they never wear out because that pair my bf got was crazy thick and almost waxy, like furniture upholstery. I couldn't imagine how anyone could skate in them (he didn't skate though). We didn't even know what the brand was, thought the logo said "Inco" becasue the 'J' wasn't very clear. His pair was black, had some small embroidery but I don't remember what, and the legs were quite wide but not the whole triangle shape, ha.
No that's not a fez; it's hair!
Here's the same models in another shoot
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoThat is FABULOUS! Makes me miss my purple mohawk back in the day. 😣
bennotbill
·11 months agoThat reminded me of a pair of Wrangler jeans I bought decades ago. When new they could practically stand up on their own. They needed a month of wearing before I could comfortably sit down in them.
vb-1722
OP11 months agoGreat advice everyone. Thank you!
tobaccocardyahoo
·11 months agoGiven the insanely high Ebay prices on JNCO jeans which have been realized in the past, these jeans might not be too high for to sell on a Second Chance Offer. But your nemesis might be two of the bidders on this item.
There are blogs which have discussed Ebay prices for this brand.
The current $1k bid would not be a record price.
I have recently discovered that I am way too sheltered and fail to realize the irrational exuberance of many bidders on stuff which I have never heard of before, or stuff which was previously thought to be crap.
In the future, if you list JNCO require payment authorization to bid. As well as blocking the buyer you know about.
albertabrightalberta
·11 months ago@vb-1722
In addition to reporting the message and sending a PM through ebay's social media, you should cancel that buyer's bids and add the buyer (and subsequent IDs they use) to your blocked bidder list.
Cancel bids: https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/selling-auctions/canceling-bid?id=4140&st=3&pos=1&query=Canceling%20bids%20and%20managing%20bidders&intent=cancel%20bids&lucenceai=lucenceai&docId=HELP1045
How to cancel a bid
If you need to cancel a bid:
Or, you can also select the Cancel a bid button below.
Cancel bid
BBL: https://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?BidderBlockLogin&&hm=vo.rp73%28%3F310%60>b&hc=1&guest=1
luckythewinner
·11 months agoI'm assuming they are not going to pay
I would assume they are going to cancel the bid when it gets down to 12 hours to go.
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoMine just didn't pay. 😖
Unavailable member
·11 months agoSounds like your buyer is a few fries short of a happy meal.
Call their bluff cancel that buyers bids put the buyer eBay ID in your blocked bidder list.
If that bidder is playing games and bidding with different I Ds there’s a chance of nonpayment if that happens after 96 hours you can cancel the transaction citing buyer didn’t pay.Put that ID in your blocked buyers list. Relist the item with Fixed price with immediate payment required as @chapeau-noir suggests. You can also report the buyer
adamcartwright
·11 months ago@vb-1722
Wow, the bidding is high, and he's plotting to prevent you from selling the pants at any time.
Besides reporting the buyer based on his messages and removing his bids, I might proactively speak to someone at eBay through social media at this point.
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoThey can go really high, particularly new with tag in a larger size, but I think someone is messing with this listing because they don't go that high, and I think the OP's prank bidder is doing it. I wonder if he's shilling since he has "many accounts" - someone did something similar to me over some Beats earphones once.
ETA: Talking to customer service on social media is a really good idea.
albertabrightalberta
·11 months ago@vb-1722
Go to the message and in the upper right of the message, click the 3 dots and report the message(s).
mam98031
·11 months ago@albertabrightalberta
Just remember to keep a copy of it somewhere in case you ever need it in the future. When you report a message in the message system, Ebay removes it. So just to be safe, save it somewhere.
chapeau-noir
·11 months agoAre those the JNCO jeans? Sell them at fixed price/immediate payment required, a nice high one (you can always reduce later on). I'm actually in that market as I've worn JNCOs for years, and it's a twitchy market.
meme6253
·11 months agoLove the Zappa!