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Buyer using USPS return scam - Ebay decided case in buyers favor
I had a buyer who bought macbook air from me - after receiving they said its defective and asked for a return. I provided them the regular eBay USPS shipping label. Buyer supposedly returned the laptop and USPS delivered it in my very small mailbox (not possible). Upon further research, i noticed that the buyer had used a forwarding address of MEEST AMERICA. My hunch is that they overwrote the shipping address on the label and returned some empty small thing to a different address in my zip code. When i contacted buyer, there was no response ofcourse.
I informed eBay and ofcourse they decided with the buyer. Filed an appeal to no avail and also got a defect on my account. Now, I am $929.99 in negative + a needless defect on my account.
I wanted to ask experienced members here what are my options. Is that something i could sue eBay about since this is not the first time it happened to me?
forumeurope
·2 years agoWe just had 2 packages "returned" by a fraudster in Los Angeles. The tracking showed they were delivered.
We receive all our packages at our post office. The tracking showed they were delivered a few hours after the post office closed.
We ended up calling & visiting the main postal facility in the city. They were able to find the "geolocation" of the delivery -- completely different location, just the same zip code.
They also let us know they were able to find one of the scanned labels. They confirmed the name & address on the label were completely different than on the return label. The scammer just kept the bar code so it was scanned and marked as delivered.
Our issue is not resolved yet.
mam98031
·2 years agoYES, this is a scam that has been going on for years. We all have to be careful and collect all the evidence we can so we can win the claims with Ebay.
cottontreeco
·2 years agoI am running into same problem. Buyer bought a $1000 item from me. Requested return by saying changing mind. Buyer is able to upload a tracking number that showed delivered to me. But I never saw the mail carrier or the package. I went to nearby USPS warehouse, was able to pull up the image of the actual label. Item was delivered to a nearby bank. I went to the bank and they said they received and discarded an empty envelope.
Now I am at the deadline of responding to eBay's return request. I have not been able to obtain any written documentation because no one wanted to come forward to make a case for me. USPS will take another 2 days to respond. Appreciate those who have dealt with this any suggestion to move forward.
mam98031
·2 years agoHave you tried going to your local PO and get a print out from them. They should be able to see the info and the pics too. I also encourage you to contact Ebay so they can make a note on your file too.
Oh and you might try sending an email to your buyer from inside the claim. Very polite, professional and not pointing fingers. Let them know that USPS has notified you that the package sent using that tracking number was an envelop deliver to a Bank in your area. You went to retrieve the envelop and were told it was not address to you and it was empty. You are in contact with USPS to get all the documentation on the shipment and will update them and Ebay of the problem at hand.
You may not want to do that email to your buyer and that is understandable. It is just me and my feeling towards thieves, bullies and liars. I have no toleration for those three types of human beings.
On each Ebay page there is a link to contact Customer Service at the top of the page and again at the bottom of the page.
I would suggest that you contact Ebay for Business on Facebook, Instagram or Twitter for the better trained CSRs.
Here are your options for contacting Ebay Customer Service. Please be aware that for social media CS, you send them a Private Message and briefly explain what your problem or issue is. Feel free to leave your Name, address, phone number and/or your email address in this message. It is private and secure and it may help to speed up the response for you.
https://twitter.com/askebay
https://www.facebook.com/eBay/
https://www.instagram.com/ebayforsellers/
Your options will be on the left. If you use the link below you can only get to the Automated Assistant or Chat box type AGENT in the box and hit enter. You will then get more options. Not all options are available 24/7. It will depend on staffing available. So sometimes you can request a call back and sometimes you can't. Sometimes you have the Chat option available and other times it won't me. If it is important to you to use one of those options, just try back later.
If you use a cell phone or other mobile device, you may need to turn off your Spam filter so that Ebay can call you.
If you are a seller outside of the US or Canada, you will need to use the Chat Option.
https://www.ebay.com/help/eua?id=5275&mkevt=1&mkpid
https://www.ebay.com/help/home
vintagecraze50
·2 years agoYou know what really sparks my attention on these is that these buyers/thieves are taking incredible risks doing this kind of thing. For goodness sakes, you have their name, address, phone number etc, and they blatantly commit theft and fraud which can be ABSOLUTELY ,AND NO EXCUSES, VERIFIED with an altered label and sent to a different return address. All for a used MacBook. Just Dumb to the max.
gamersbaystore
·2 years agoI agree, some of these scammers are really bold. With some of them, its likely they're already convicted felons. Unfortunately, it can be very difficult, if not impossible for these people to ever find a job again, so they continue scamming to survive. Its a very sad and vicious cycle.
The average employer is not going to hire anyone convicted of a violent crime, and to a lesser degree, financial crimes, in which both would be considered serious risks to any given business.
This is part of the reason why ex-criminals have such a hard time re-integrating back into society, they are simply shunned by society. But we all make choices in life.
retro_entertainment_collectibles
·2 years agoNo doubt some are, no doubt most are not. Most of this stuff is being perpetrated by folks in Gen-Z, over 60% according to Mastercard. They are going to service their lifestyles. They know its wrong and just dont care. Its that simple and its not just here or Mamazon, its across all retailers as well.
But... It also is the Internet which can be tooth for tooth or even tooth for teeth for that matter.
mam98031
·2 years agoDare we add that what they are doing is a FEDERAL crime !!!!!
vintagecraze50
·2 years agoYOU NEED TO GET PROACTIVE AND GET ALL THE EVIDENCE from USPS on where this package was actually delivered. NOT YOUR RETURN ADDRESS? LABEL ALTERED EQUALS MAIL FRAUD IN THE FIRST DEGREE. Not only do you have the opportunity to report this buyer to the federal govt for fraud and Prison time, you also have the opportunity to present this evidence to ebay in an appeal and do something about this growing scam. So do it!
ittybitnot
·2 years agoLABEL ALTERED EQUALS MAIL FRAUD IN THE FIRST DEGREE. Not only do you have the opportunity to report this buyer to the federal govt for fraud and Prison time.........
@vintagecraze50
I do think in this instance the "buyer" is in another country (used a freight forwarder), and probably not particularly interested or living in fear of any 'mail fraud' prosecution from US federal government entities.
vintagecraze50
·2 years agoOk, SO international shipment/returns scams—not a thing you can do?
ittybitnot
·2 years agoOk, SO international shipment/returns scams—not a thing you can do?
@vintagecraze50
As far as getting any monetary redress for being a victim of a scam, likely not a chance through regular law enforcement channels in the US. There are no published policies or procedures for this on the eBay site. It has been going on for YEARS, and has been documented in these forums at least back to 2013.
The only reason members know here what can be tried is by sharing information with each other. While buyer victims can be helped by doing a credit card chargeback, seller victims have to rely on the "good graces" of eBay. The entity that controls the money, controls the outcome, and indeed it is not the seller in this case. For much too long it appears eBay's first line is to DENY, DENY, and hide behind "the tracking shows delivery" "tracking shows you received the package from the buyer" etc. etc. in hopes you DON'T know where to turn and you give up and go away.
I provided the OP @austinsbestbuys in message #11 what needs to be done at this point to the best of my knowledge. This is based on others that have had this problem, and the present state of 'help' available if you know where to go.
Even then, eBay often requires written documentation that has been often impossible to obtain in the format required. Thus, eBay is not required to perform and saves money. Their interpretation of a freight forwarder situation/loss of the money back guarantee has wavered of the years as well. Presently sometimes, just that forwarder information is enough for the seller victim, and no further documentation is required. Luckily for many, the local USPS has been much more cooperative in helping victims. They often give you a photo of the label that was NOT addressed to you to help with your case be you a seller or a buyer. It has only been the last few months that we actually got to view some of these that actually still retained the same tracking number/bar code yet were addressed to the local gas station to satisfy a return to the seller. Yes, as you said it is a Federal Crime, but the perpetrator is in "Somewhereistan".
mam98031
·2 years agoWhat info lead you to that conclusion?
ittybitnot
·2 years agoWhat info lead you to that conclusion?
@mam98031
Actually, it was in the first post by the OP:
Upon further research, i noticed that the buyer had used a forwarding address of MEEST AMERICA.
mam98031
·2 years agoYou are correct. I'm sorry!
duffy4444
·2 years ago@austinsbestbuys:
Here's your best option: Stop selling and shipping high-value items here, especially electronics, phones, cameras, etc, where you and your business model are not prepared to lose the item, along with your payment for it, on an easy and well-know scam that is obviously totally against common sense.
Ebay has yet to counter scam buyers with "Seller Protections" that have real teeth and equity in them. They would prefer that sellers take their chances, and are too quick to get scams off their plate by letting sellers take it in the shorts.
It's really a shame. In many posts here I have stated how shortsighted it is for eBay to be losing sellers and losing a windfall in seller fees if they'd only return confidence to us so we could resume selling and shipping high-value items.
Still shaking my head...
Next time don't sell high-value items like laptops anywhere online. Instead sell it locally or on a site like Craigslist for CASH, where you have total control over the sale and disposition of such an item, and you can totally avoid the scams plaguing eBay sellers - especially the credit card chargeback that is almost a 100% successful scam.
Sorry this happened to you, and I hope that more sellers begin logging in to this forum and start learning about high-value scams.
Forget suing eBay, as they have iron-clad legal TOS protection against such a suit as you are thinking about. Your only option is suing the scammer in their local court. You've got a much better chance of coming out ahead... Perhaps for a loss of over $929 it's worth traveling and suing the scammer. Some selling victims here have done that, and even been successful appearing on Judge Judy. A lot of judges are becoming aware of these online scams.
Cheers, Duffy
vintagecraze50
·2 years agoDuffy, I appreciate you warnings to sellers about not selling higher value items and for a really really small seller with just a few of these items I would say the same. I have been on here over 18 years selling such items and rarely do I have a problem, probably because people do not want to mess with me with my ratings and my top rated where I can deduct from the item if not returned etc. BUT, if I do get a low life scammer, I would pursue this and do every bit I can to get them reported here, the police, anywhere I need to and get off my behind and get the evidence to stop people like this.
sextons-sweet-deals
·2 years agoeBay could fix this if they really wanted to!
From what I know, when a seller issues a return label, the seller will never see the tracking number so they can't track / watch where the package is or where it ends up.
Because of that, it is an easy scammer play game. Manipulate the shipping address because eBay only goes by the tracking number and their auto bot system.
The other scam is the seller just receiving an empty box, the buyers broken item that they just replaced, box of rocks, or the seller may get their item back less the parts the buyer needed from it to either fix their item or complete the set of something.
It's really sad!
I have some expensive items and some large items that just can't be shipped. I have pick-up only on them. It sure weeds out the scammers but can be hard to sale even if I do live in a very populated area.
mam98031
·2 years agoUsually the tracking number stays the same, so both the buyer and seller can track the package.
How exactly can Ebay control this issue? How does Ebay control when someone drops a shipping label into a program and manipulate it?
I had this issue a couple of times, but as the buyer, it was the seller that shipped the item I paid for to someone else in my zip code. They gave me the tracking number and put it on the transaction, but they didn't ship to me. To make a long story short, they shipped a lighter & much cheaper item to an address in my zip code.
When I contacted the carrier to see what the issue was as to why I did not receive my package, even though tracking said I did, that was when I found out that it wasn't shipped to me. In looking closer at the shipping docs I also discovered that the item they shipped was 4lbs and what I ordered would have weighed closer to 40 or 50lbs.
I gather all the info from the carrier and they sent it to me in an email. I filed an INR and attached the evidence I had collected. I won the INR even though tracking showed delivered.
You want to blame Ebay for something they can't control, except for getting rid of members that participate in this scam.
stephenmorgan
·2 years agoJust curious, but after you proved your case have you gone back to see if the seller is still registered on eBay to do business?
mam98031
·2 years agoSadly they are.
a_c_green
·2 years agoIn fact that particular question has a relatively simple fix. The generated label is in PDF form. At the present time, the labels generated by eBay are not produced with any Security settings to prevent modifying the document, so that anyone with a PDF editor can modify the visible address as desired:
The solution is for eBay to add an Owner password when generating the address. That does not prevent the recipient from opening or printing the label as needed, but it does prevent the user from modifying either the Security settings or the address in the document itself. (Adding an owner password encrypts the file contents, so you can no longer just go into it with a text editor, find the visible text strings and modify the address line.) I had a stab at explaining this to a couple of eBay folks at the Chicago live event last year, but I'm not sure if they understood it.
At that point, with an Owner password in place, if the scammer wants to modify the label, he'll have to do it physically in a more obvious manner, such as by pasting a new address over the original, or otherwise generate a whole new label of his own, such as to send a trinket to some other address within the recipient's ZIP Code. That hacked-up label will be much easier to spot. As it is right now, modifying the PDF label instead can be seamless if you know what you're doing and there is no Owner password to prevent you from fiddling with it.
As for a scam return swap going through a reshipper (Freight Forwarder) from a foreign country, I don't see any additional hurdle that would prevent that. The return label goes to the scam buyer, and he needs only to modify the label with a misdirected street address, stick it on his package and send it back to his reshipper in the U.S. They then drop the package into the mailstream bearing its fake destination address, and eBay generates the refund as soon as tracking shows a Delivered status somewhere within the recipient's ZIP Code.
The solution in this case would involve the victimized seller either proving to eBay that the original Ship-To: address was a Freight Forwarder, or proving (with USPS help) that the returned package was actually labeled to go to some other address in the recipient's ZIP. Long-term, eBay needs to secure the PDF labels that they generate with an Owner password in order to encrypt the contents and make modifying them more difficult.
ittybitnot
·2 years agoThe return label goes to the scam buyer, and he needs only to modify the label with a misdirected street address, stick it on his package and send it back to his reshipper in the U.S.
@a_c_green
That would be too expensive....sending it back to the reshipper. Many of these that I have seen have had "return" addresses that are totally unrelated to the reshipper address. Some retained the reshipper address as the 'return' address, but the tracking shows them dropped off in another state. Four out of the last five I have seen have seemingly random return addresses in NY, even when the reshipper was in Miami or Oregon.
So if I were the miscreant buyer in 'somewhereistan', I would just forward the label to my good friend a.c. in the US who knows how to change the label, and have them send the box of rubber bands to the recipient's local CVS. I suspect someone in the US has a really nifty 'cottage industry' going on.
mam98031
·2 years agoWhen a buyer uses a Freight Forwarding company to receive their purchases in the US to at some point repackage and ship to their country, as far as the seller is concerned, the ship to address is the Freight Forwarder. Therefore if a Request for Return is filed by the buyer and the seller approves it and sends a return label to the buyer, the address it ships from is the Freight Forwarder address and a US shipping rate.
Sellers do not have to pay for a return from the buyer's international address when the buyer uses a Freight forwarder.
sma2208
·2 years agoI always go through the Better Business Bureau when I have an issue with ebay support being ridiculous (which is most of the time). The BBB doesn't actually do anything, but you tend to get much more competent customer service people looking at these complaints, which can make a big difference. It's worth trying.
Ebay's regular support people are spectacularly bad at their jobs.
ittybitnot
·2 years agoI wanted to ask experienced members here what are my options
.@austinsbestbuys
You are apparently a victim of the "fake tracking return scam" (aka cheap trinket return scam). It is a popular technique of international buyers that use a Freight Forwarder address. eBay provides some extra protections in these instances for sellers, but will not volunteer the information during a return/claim. Buyers that use freight forwarders forfeit the right to eBay Money Back Guarantee claims, but they can file them just the same. It is up to the seller to inform eBay that they are dealing with a freight forwarder situation.
A couple to typical scenarios may be employed. One, is to the alter the address information for the return label you sent. These are PDF files, and can be changed with ease. This retains the same tracking number and bar code of the original return label, but the address is to some other entity in your Zipcode. The eBay automated system is fine with this, and the seller will prevail. Carriers deliver to the printed address on the label.
The other method is just to purchase some cheap trinket on the net, and have it shipped to some other address in your Zipcode. Because eBay does not require the buyer to use the return label, this is fine with eBay, too. The seller will prevail again, when the delivery confirmation is shown.
Regular customer service (the foreign based call center reps you get on chat or callback) have been notoriously useless with these issues. You will find better help, and will usually get your money back if you use one of the eBay customer service portals on their social media channels. One such is the blue message button at the top of this page:
https://www.facebook.com/eBayForBusiness
There are similar contact points on instagram or twitter (X)
These social media channels lead directly to US CS agents that are quite familiar with this scam process, and DO have the authority to help you.
Sometimes just explaining that a freight forwarder is involved is enough for them to issue you a refund. Other times, they want written documentation that the address on the return label was NOT intended for you (where it was delivered is not required). In the past, this "written" documentation was hard or impossible to obtain, basically absolving eBay of having to act on your behalf. USPS has come a long way and will often give you a photo of that return label, and other information that you need.
Buyers who are victims of fake tracking issues, can seek redress through their c.card. Sellers have no such option, and must seek help and deal with years of "eBay denial" at the same time.
Good luck, and do let us know how this turns out for you.
ittybitnot
·2 years ago@austinsbestbuys
The seller will prevail again, when the delivery confirmation is shown.
Should read BUYER will prevail in my post #11.......not enough coffee yet this a.m.
mam98031
·2 years ago@austinsbestbuys
This is a scam that is going around right now. Contact USPS, try your local PO first. Have the tracking number ready to give them. Get them to email you as much of the details as they are willing to give you. They take pics of the packages now too, see if you can get that. A very important piece of info to get is the weight on the package and size.
After you get the proof, contact the police department in your buyer's area, you may be able to do it online. File a theft report and use the info you got from USPS. You can also file a Fraud report with USPS as well. BTW, that is a Federal Crime.
Ebay is not ever going to get in the middle of a he said/ she said situation. You need PROOF. Get with USPS and get the PROOF in writing and then you go back to Ebay with it. And get the police report number. Ebay is responsive to police reports.
gamersbaystore
·2 years agoContact USPS and ask for printout/letter that shows proof of what was delivered and where. They typically take pictures of packages when scanning upon delivery now, and they can provide detailed information that proves exactly where a package was delivered. They store geolocation for deliveries, the evidence is indisputable.
As others noted and I agree with, file a mail fraud and or police reports.
Don't file an appeal until you've done the above and have the info ready to hand over to ebay.
ebay has a serious problem with return fraud, which they refuse to acknowledge or do anything about.
The scammers will typically return the item to another address within your own zipcode. ebay sees the tracking showing as delivered to that zipcode and they refund the scamming buyer.
ebay doesnt actually verify where the item was delivered, which they should be.
Your buyer didnt overwrite the shipping address, they merely didnt use the label ebay gave them and instead purchased their own. This is also part of the problem, ebay needs to start forcing buyers to use the return labels ebay provides, or no refund. Otherwise, this is never going to stop.
ittybitnot
·2 years agoThis is also part of the problem, ebay needs to start forcing buyers to use the return labels ebay provides, or no refund. Otherwise, this is never going to stop.
@gamersbaystore
Once again, they DO use the eBay provided labels now. Changing the addresses of the PDF file is a simple matter, and even less expensive than the older version of having to purchase a "cheap trinket" and having it sent to the local gas station or library in the seller's Zipcode. If I am not mistaken, you have been provided a screen shot of an altered eBay label recently to compare what was generated by eBay vs what arrived in the town of the seller (compliments of USPS).
gamersbaystore
·2 years agoebay allows buyers to use their own labels in place of ebays when initiating returns. Its always been this way.
Altering the address of a shipping label does NOT change the destination. USPS scans the barcodes, not the print that's on the label. That being said, there is no way to manipulate an address on an already purchased label, its literally impossible.
USPS will not deliver a package with an altered address.
Likewise, attempting to alter a USPS label is considered mail fraud and the postal service will prosecute.
austinsbestbuys
OP2 years agoUnfortunately, you are incorrect here. USPS drivers do not go by the barcode on the shipping label; they go by the address thats printed on the label. So you can literally put any address as long as the zip code is the same. USPS driver will happily deliver it to the incorrect address.
USPS has confirmed this (JFYI) - its pretty darn easy to change the label address.
gamersbaystore
·2 years agoThat simply is not true. USPS drivers do not carry packages that are not on their routes. They also scan upon delivery.
Packages are presorted by barcodes and machine before being sent on specific routes. Obviously the postal worker is going to be suspicious as to why they have a package to deliver that's not on their route.
A quick scan would raise even more suspicions because there's now 2 addresses that dont match.
The last time someone tried altering the label on one of my returns, my mailman was the one who brought it to my attention. He showed me the package, said he was suspicious of it, then asked if he could retain it and I agreed.
A few weeks later USPS notified me they were charging the buyer for mail fraud. ebay terminated the buyers account shortly after they initiated their return, the case was closed and I got my money back.
Tampering with those labels is a federal crime.
You stated your buyer used a forwarding service. They could not have done so using the label you provided, that is literally impossible. More likely they purchased their own label and changed the return address, also allowing them access to the use of the forwarding service to try and cover their tracks.
stephenmorgan
·2 years agoThe OP said "buyer had used a forwarding address of MEEST AMERICA"
Meest-America, a leading logistics company in the United States specializing in international parcel delivery.
I think in this case it the Return Label was not altered but some random item ordered from within the US and returned to a different address within the same Zip Code.
It is very easy to alter a address on a shipping label and print it out for use and as long as it is on the same delivery route it may not be noticed, but you would need to be in the US to mail the item for this to work.
gamersbaystore
·2 years agoBingo! That's what I was trying to tell the OP all along. The buyer never altered the label, they merely purchased a new one and sent a random item somewhere in the OP's zipcode.
The OP claimed they thought the buyer overwrote the shipping address on the label, but we know that's not possible because of the third party shipping service that was involved. Altering the address on a USPS label does not alter its destination assigned to the barcode.
The buyer in the OP's case could not have used a forwarding service for the return unless they used a different label than the one ebay provided for the return. In such a case, it would be simple for the buyer to use alternate addresses.
Yes, if its an altered address along the very same route, its possible a postal worker may not notice it, but the seasoned ones will.
My own mailman was quick to point out the discrepancies in the return I mentioned and was the one to initially report it.
vintagecraze50
·2 years agoYay! I hope this seller get’s them prosecuted.
robbie31415
·2 years agoEbay doesn't go on hunches.
When you filed your appeal you needed supporting documents. Police report, cyber crimes report, mail fraud report and a statement from the USPS saying the label was altered, which they can verify.
If your appeal was simply based on your feelings then it's mostly always a lose.
vintagecraze50
·2 years agoRIGHT. THE seller needs to do some work and not just sit on their hind end and do nothing.
ittybitnot
·2 years agoTHE seller needs to do some work and not just sit on their hind end and do nothing.
@vintagecraze50
Since I don't sell here anymore, I am unable to see the regular "appeal" form or "report the buyer form" that eBay provides. Is there a dropdown menu for the seller to choose from? Is there a choice of "buyer using a freight forwarder engaged in the fake tracking return scam"?
I know that there is no such thing for buyers when they are victims of the fake tracking scenario.
jimmy1000000
·1 year agoYou can have all the evidence in the world and a detective involved You can have other corporations do three-way phone calls with you and explain things to eBay. Ebay will commit fraud to you. They'll stick to their guns If they did business ethically they would have gone out of business by now or at minimum been restructured. They know who and what they are and how they survive on hosting and facilitating buyers online fraud.
mam98031
·1 year agoOld thread
kensgiftshop
·2 years agoSee if you can get a letter from USPS stating that the address was changed and not delivered to your address.
File a police report and mail fraud.
Once you have all those, use them to appeal the case.
caldreamer
·2 years agoYes, scammers target people selling "new electronics" or anything of "high value". There are many, many different types of scams going around. Never sell more than you can afford to lose. Unfortunately, EBAY will NOT protect you if you get scammed.
You would have to sue customer that scammed you in small claims court but since they are in a foreign country it won't do you any good.
Sorry this happened to you...this is a tough lesson to learn. You should immediately cancel any listing for high value electronics because now that the scammer got away with it (they will target you again and again).
showmecurrency4u
·2 years agothe government should set limit of
ebay needs to have a limit of selling only selling items for less than 49.99 until they clean up their platform to stop the theft by low feedback "buyers" or allow sellers to block any sellers with 0 or any other feedback statis.
doc-holmes
·2 years agoThat would fix the problem by putting eBay out of business overnight.
rosachs
·2 years agoYou are more than welcome to follow these guidelines and see if it makes any difference, other than to reduce your income from this singular venue. You cannot throttle one venue and leave all the others unfettered -- not until a proven mechanism is developed, tested, and implemented at all third-party selling venues.
Not to mention you are going to have to convince the eBay Board Of Directors and all the shareholders (voiting and non-voting) that the loss of valuation of their stock in eBay is worth doing. Would you be willing to give up 90% of your paycheck because your kids say you are spending it wrong?
-Bob.
mam98031
·2 years ago@showmecurrency4u
Well that would put a lot of very good sellers out of business right quick.
It would kill Ebay's sales on the site.
Ebay would have to raise fees.
And so many more things tells us this is just plain wrong.
BTW you are blaming Ebay for something they did NOT do. Ebay has no control over this type of scam. How in the world could they? How is it that you think Ebay can see this is a scam and stop it?
Blocking new members is a business killer. We need new buyers so that the site will grow and we have more customers. Without new sellers sales would continue to die off as our customers age. You need to keep in mind the big picture.
fashunu4eeuh
·2 years ago@showmecurrency4u
Looking to the government or eBay to somehow control internet fraud is not going to fix the problem, and your suggestions could potentially hinder our constitutional freedoms, lower our profits, and/or interfere with the free market system. Do you honestly want eBay to limit what value can be listed for your items?
Singling out new buyers (or those with limited platform history/activity) as orchestrators of this problem unfairly maligns an entire subset of shoppers. Might as well throw the baby out with the bathwater. Such shoppers deserve our support— not our suspicions. Until someone actually proves by his actions that he is a criminal, i would be very careful with making labels and accusations. A feedback score alone is not a reliable measure of someone’s honesty.