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    eBay should consider allowing the seller to request 3rd party reviews on INAD cases

    I accepted a $17 offer on a jacket listed at $45 and upon receipt, the buyer claimed the jacket didn't fit them the way they expected. The buyer included pictures of them wearing the jacket but they were hunched over and holdng the sleeves to make the jacket look tight. The buyer then said they were willing to keep the jacket (that doesn't fit) if I sent them $15 of the $17 they actually paid me to account for their disappointment.  Instead of claiming "doesnt fit" as their reason for their return, they claimed INAD.

     

    In these instances, the seller should be able to say 1) I do not agree with the reason for the return AND 2) request a third party review BEFORE the refund can be issued. eBay can then take a look at the messages, see that the buyer is not being forthcoming and gaming the system.

     

    If this ia already a thing, this option was not offered to me and I was forced to refund the original shipping.

    sustainable_swag
    sustainable_swag
    702View listings
    Posted 2 years ago·Last reply 2 years ago
                                           
             
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    simba6

    simba6

    ·2 years ago
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    Actually eBay did once have a program that was close to that.  Back then to file a not as described case, the buyer needed a report by an expert on that item on official letterhead.  Try finding that......

                                           
    robbie31415

    robbie31415

    ·2 years ago
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    I can tell why it didn't last long.

     

    That sounds like the dumbest thing ever.

     

    Unless experts inspected the item first. What would the experts compare it to ? What the seller listed ?

     

    The authenticity guarantee and eIS are the only viable programs they have because its not direct to the consumer and gets inspected.

                                           
    simba6

    simba6

    ·2 years ago
    2303View listings

    Before that, there was NO buyer protection at all.  It was tough tooties .  No such thing as filing a case.

     

    Yes the expert was to compare the item to the description the seller wrote. 

                                           
    robbie31415

    robbie31415

    ·2 years ago
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    But you had CC and PayPal protections? Was this before PayPal?

     

    I would suspect the CC chargeback rate was much higher.

                                           
    kalyoth

    kalyoth

    ·2 years ago
    1115View listings

    You are trying to sell one of the most subjective merchandise categories on the planet. Clothing fits everyone differently. It's one of the most hated items for merchants to handle, even if it IS lucrative. It's a major reason I do not touch clothing for resale. For every 100 buyers you have 200 reasons they want to return it.

                                           
    robbie31415

    robbie31415

    ·2 years ago
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    It Being not as described can be the reason it doesn't fit.

     

    This is what hurts a lot of buyers is because if you asked me why I'm returning the jacket is because it doesn't fit me.

     

    Question is why doesn't it fit ?

     

    Ebay isn't going to play inspector gadget.

     

    EBay customer service will tell you a lot of things to make you feel better.

                                           
    sustainable_swag

    sustainable_swag

    OP2 years ago
    702View listings

    I dont have an issue if the buyer wants to return an item if bc doesn't fit; I want the buyer to be happy with their purchase.

     

    My issue is the buyer trying to get me to pay them over 80% of what they paid to keep a jacket they claim doesn't fit.  Why would you keep an item that doesn't fit? That doesn't make sense. So what they did was instead of claiming it doesnt fit and losing their original shipping cost, they lied and claimed INAD.

     

    In any case, I'm over it because the jacket sold for more elsewhere and I recouped all of my money and made a small profit. The lesson for me is beware of lowballers.

                                           
    lakefor94

    lakefor94

    ·2 years ago
    112View listings

    Selling fees would skyrocket if eBay had arbitrators look at a million $17 disputed INAD's over the course of a year.  Not feasible. 

     

    Shake it off and make some money.

                                           
    sustainable_swag

    sustainable_swag

    OP2 years ago
    702View listings

    That's exactly what I did. Sent the full refund, reported the buyer, blocked them and made sales.

                                           
    robbie31415

    robbie31415

    ·2 years ago
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    The seller can ask for a third party review.

     

    That's what asking ebay to step in is.

     

    However, what are they going to review?

     

    This third party didn't see what was sent. Didn't know how it arrived.

     

    Ebay has added some programs where a return can be flat out denied because it first goes to a third party before the customer. This is the only way it can happen.

                                           
    sustainable_swag

    sustainable_swag

    OP2 years ago
    702View listings

    ebay can see that the buyer originally claimed in the messages to me that the jacket "didn't fit" but when they ask for the return they claimed not as described. ebay wouldn't have to see the item to determine the buyer is gaming the system.

     

    when the buyer opened the case as an INAD, I wasn't given any options. the return was automatically started and i had to give them a full refund. even after I contacted ebay and they read the messages, ebay agreed that it was a remorse return and not an INAD, I wasn't given any other option. yes, i could state that i didn't agree with the INAD but that was it.

     

    in any case, I sent the reund without argument, reported the buyer, blocked them and moved on.

                                           
    soh.maryl

    soh.maryl

    ·2 years ago
    110View listings

    Of course, this isn't already a thing.

    Opinions about whether or not something is as described can be quite subjective, especially in the category of clothing.  

    Just curious, if the buyer's complaint is about fit, that's a"remorse return" and you need to read up on how those can be handled.

     

                                           
    sustainable_swag

    sustainable_swag

    OP2 years ago
    702View listings

    😒@ Of course, this isn't already a thing.

     

    IMO either an item fits or it doesn't. What irked me was suggesting that I pay them to keep a jacket they claimed didn't fit and then lying out of spite bc I wasnt wlling to issue a partial refund of their lowball offer.  In any case, I will take your advice and review suggestions on how to handle a remorse returns. Thank you.

                                           
                                                                                     
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