The family of Schreiner Jewelry Post
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The family of Schreiner Jewelry are still alive and kicking. Mom, Terry, is 89, and can't believe how my parents, and grandfathers creations have become so collectable. My dad's , Ambros, famous ruffle pin retailed for $7.50 in the mid 1950ss. It now often sells for over $750.00. She is also very unhappy of crooked dealers claiming they have unsigned Schreiner, when it's not even close to anything we produced. I have written a dealer in Cal. several times to remove things that are clearly not Schreiner. She accused me of being another dealer trying to make her look bad... really! Buyers beware of anything unsigned unless you have experience identifing Schreiner pieces, and don't believe them if they claimed it's verrified. Sometimes I will post on a piece if it is clearly a Schreiner piece, and allow the seller to use my post. Many books have poor information about my family's business. One dealer claimed Sphinx is a hallmark of Schreiner, and listed some book from the 70ss, that stated it. Schreiner Jewelry was only made in NYC, not in Europe, or any place else. We did design for many of the best ready-to-wear, designers of the 30ss- 70ss, that was sold to them unsigned, but only made by us in NYC. These pieces were sold with the garment. Hope this helps new collectors, and best of luck to you!
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1940fc
·1 month agoJust a gentle bump to bring this back to top
gurlcat
·yesterday at 5:33 PM@1940fc Now that the structure/features of this new platform are (I believe) mostly complete, I wonder if anyone would like to write to @beekeeper_42 via his eBay buyer account messaging, to see if he knows how to get here, and whether he still wants to provide help. I would gladly do it, but I suspect there are some who 'know' him better than I. Meaning, I have posted only a few times in this thread over the years, so I doubt he'd recognize my name.
And I feel even more nervous about it because of the nature of the last post he made here, not as a reply but his own comment thread, talking about how frustrating it can be when he can't always know for certain whether a piece is Scrheiner, and in a reply to the thread he mentioned how people email him outside of here, press him repeatedly, etc. It kinda looked like he was getting tired of this, and so maybe the platform transition is a welcome 'exit' for him, after all these years of providing free guidance.
-He certainly doesn't owe us any more help, but if by chance he does still want to, it would be kinda tragic if he just didn't know how to get here or whatever.
fabrics24
·1 month agoI have been devouring this thread front to back, gleaning everything I can from it. It's such a wealth of information!
As an aspiring jewelry maker (VERY amateur) I have so much I can learn from you, Steven, and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us all.
Just knowing why you guys did things the way you did shows the quality and care that was put into every piece, and I can't thank you enough, even if you don't know me.
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoI think sometimes it frustrates people that ask me to verify their jewelry and I can't give a 100% one way or the other. I'm sorry but I will only do so if I am 100% sure a piece is one of ours. I do not take this lightly since I understand my comments may change the value of a piece by hundreds of dollars one way or the other. If I don't have a piece in my hand it is sometimes very difficult from a few pictures, some of better quality than others. Have a nice weekend! Stephen
gauntlettgems
·2 months agoThat’s totally understandable. Ty for helping
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoOutside of here some people e-mail me directly, and sometimes they keep pressing me for one way or the other
gauntlettgems
·1 week ago@beekeeper_42
Wondering about this piece also.
gauntlettgems
·1 week agogauntlettgems
·1 week agogauntlettgems
·1 week agoIt’s giving me a heck of a time trying to make it all post in one shot. Sorry for all of the partial mesaages. The cartouche is blank, the stones are set upside down and I can’t find anything like it elsewhere. Thank you in advance
gurlcat
·2 months ago@beekeeper_42 and fellow Schreiner lovers: Just wondering if you noticed the Community announcement that eBay is (very soon) about to revamp the Community into something very different. You can read how clear-as-mud the "details" are here:
Announcement of new Community
So I can't answer any questions beyond what that^ says. We're guessing, speculating and gossiping like crazy about it, over in the Selling forum. 🤣
Note: it doesn't even say the exact date of the switch-over, but I can only guess June 16th, because it says the Community will be completely inaccessible from the 11th to the 15th, while the transfer is under construction.
-Like I said, VERY soon.
One thing I do strongly suspect is there will no longer be eBay item category-specific sub-forums like 'Jewelry and Gemstones' because it talks about a "more streamlined experience" which sounds to me like lots of "lumping together."
But the main reason I thought of this ongoing Scrheiner thread is this: The new Community will carry-over some old threads, dating back to 2023. I assume that means threads that were first started on or after Jan. 1, 2023. So this one, started back in 2018, will not be there. I do find that very sad, but I just wanted to give a heads up in case anyone would like to archive the discussions, photos, anything you'd like to be able to reference in the future.
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoYou guessed right. I suspect it's Austrian
gauntlettgems
·2 months ago · EditedHi,
Wondering if this could be Schreiner. Thank you for looking.
gauntlettgems
·2 months agoLooking for the post to help ID a possible Schreiner piece. Is this it? Thank you @beekeeper_42
1940fc
·2 months agoMorning GG! You found the right thread..so go ahead & post your photos for Stephen to see & wait. He`s probably busy
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoI was away for a few days visiting friends in NH, and my sister in Maine. I used to get a notice in my e-mail if someone posted here, but not anymore for some reason
gurlcat
·2 months ago@beekeeper_42 Both eBay (the platform itself) and this Community have a very frustrating habit of changing members' notification preferences against their will. Seems like every time I turn around I'm no longer getting them where I want them and was used to seeing them .... and/or getting them elsewhere, where I DON'T want them. And I see tons of other people say the same thing.
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoWe did do some "clamper" style bracelets, but only for a short time... not sure why it was such limited production. Yours cold be ours, but there were several jewelry houses producing nearly the same style including Austria. The basic "Clamper" frame was used by all of us, and was standard jewelry supply house purchase, so that is no help on the ID front. The jeweled part was soldered first and then later soft soldered to the clamper frame, as the high heat to melt hard solder would have damaged the spring that held the clamper together. Sorry! Stephen
gauntlettgems
·2 months agoSo not a definite no? I’m sorry, I’m confused. @beekeeper_42
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoI can't give you my 100% since several jewelry houses were making almost identical pieces
go2mimishouse
·4 months agoGood day! I am wondering if you have any information regarding the earliest Schreiner jewelry. I have read that it originally was primarily metal with enameling before evolving into the complex, beautiful jewelry it became. Is this true? Also, are there any resources regarding this early work that I could access online or find at a library? Thank you so very much! Mistee
beekeeper_42
OP4 months agoMistee; My grandfather took over the jeweled, shoe buckle house for his back pay in 1929. His early pieces were cast with marcisite,(Sp?) stones. He moved to castings with rhinestones, before switching to premade stone settings, and rhinestone. He did very little enamel. Not many books covered My grandfather's very early work, but the book by Townsend, and Tannenbaumb is very good. Eve interviewed myself, and my mom several times.
della5355
·4 months agoI am trying to get the gist of posting here.
First I want to say that I love your family's jewelry, absolutely love it! Thank you for the expert craftsmanship, the designs and art glass used, it is beyond beautiful to me. If I had the opportunity to purchase a piece just for me it would be one of three attached😉 this is just my three choices! There are so many beautiful pieces that I would love to own personally. 🥰
Second, thank you so much for taking the time to review the photos of the brooches and evaluating/verifying both beauties. It is so cool to be able to reach out to you in this forum, this is my first time, hopefully it won't be my last.
Your mom's creativity and forwarding thinking to add the hook on the back was ingenious! I am thankful for the Schreiner family and the gorgeous jewelry you all created. Thank each of you!
Della5355
gurlcat
·4 months agoUnrelated to the question of Schreiner-or-not (if this isn't against the rules) and posed to anyone reading: would this piece be considered japanned or just black enameled? Japanning is a characterization I still don't feel I understand well enough to identify accurately.
1940fc
·4 months agoWorks for me, gurlcat! LOL My eyes are tired & I agree had never seen a mark on a cup..but this was drivin me nuts!
As to Japanned..no I`m pretty sure. Japanned is a glossy black coating & this reminds me more of just a pewter-look finish , if that makes sense A lot of Regency jewelry had this type of finish. Kinda antiquey looking
della5355
·4 months ago · EditedHello again,
When your eyes recover please take a gander at this brooch please.
At this time in life my eyes are not what they used to be and when they are tired😳
beekeeper_42
OP4 months agoCongratulations! Your two for two! You give a nice clear picture of the flat wire with the fancy edging we hand soldered the pin hinge, and catch to, unlike the supply house, stamped pin, and catch bar people often have listed on unsigned Schreiner, that are not ours. We used the flat wire both straight, and bent into "V" shape like on your brooch. Stephen
1940fc
·4 months agoWay to go, della!! And thank you, Stephen.
della5355
·4 months agoThanks a million to you and Stephen!
della5355
·4 months agoFirst I want to say that I love your family's jewelry, absolutely love it! Thank you for the expert craftsmanship, the designs and art glass used, it is beyond beautiful to me. If I had the opportunity to purchase a piece just for me it would be one of three attached😉 this is just my three choices! There are so many beautiful pieces that I would love to own personally. 🥰
Second, thank you so much for taking the time to review the photos of the brooches and evaluating/verifying both beauties. It is so cool to be able to reach out to you in this forum, this is my first time, hopefully it won't be my last.
Your mom's creativity and forwarding thinking to add the hook on the back was ingenious! I am thankful for the Schreiner family and the gorgeous jewelry you all created. Thank each of you! You and your Mom!
Della5355
della5355
·4 months ago · EditedThese are my first three choices. Just my first three choices.🥰
beekeeper_42
OP2 months agoDella; While we were known for our colorful designs most of my grandfathers early pieces were done in clear stones. The stores were a big driver of both very dramatic and/ or colorful pieces, since the dress houses did not want the jewelry to distract from their garment. Sadly, many of the small producers of select stones no longer exist in Europe anymore. So even if we had stayed open past the 70ss our look would have changed since our suppliers no longer existed. Times change
jsbach74
·1 month agoYou mention one of the distinctive ID feature is ‘fancy’ boomerang flat bar across backside. Please correct me if wrong…but believe it’s also called ‘serrated or crenellated edge on usually one side. Am fascinated with this kind pin holder.
della5355
·5 months agoHello,
There is a lot more information and research required for what I think is a Schreiner Beauty after reading many posts. I thought that finding a brooch in the Schreiner database means I hit gold, and this not true? I have two unsigned pieces that were shown on the site now I have a question mark?
Are they Schreiner???? Or are they not Schreiner???
Can someone help me please?
Thank you!
1940fc
·5 months agoYou`ll need to post pictures, della. 😉
della5355
·4 months agoHello,
I added photos of one brooch for review.
Thank you!
beekeeper_42
OP4 months agoTry again, your photos didn't make it.
della5355
·4 months ago · EditedI am having a moment trying to respond with the photos, I will try again.
1940fc
·4 months agoLovely!
I`m gonna say yes (humble guess..been wrong before lol ) so wait for our expert! 😀
Sure looks like some kind of writing your 4th pic lower right corner right close to the edge
gurlcat
·4 months ago · Edited@1940fc Sure does look like a 'R' in there at least! Or could be random bumbs causing pareidolia, LOL. Wonder if the OP @della5355 would be willing to snap one more photo, showing more of that area?
beekeeper_42
OP4 months agoOK, this is one of ours, late 50ssish. The marks on the side of the setting was from the solder boiling. Vastly different size settings were very difficult to master heating the settings evenly for a clean look, between large, and small settings. The smaller settings heated much faster, even thought the asbestos blocks were wetted with water. In house we just called this "Gunmetal" plating. The hook on the back of the brooch was my mom's idea, and only started after 1954 when my grandfather died, and my parents took over the business
della5355
·4 months agoFirst I want to say that I love your family's jewelry, absolutely love it! Thank you for the expert craftsmanship, the designs and art glass used, it is beyond beautiful to me. If I had the opportunity to purchase a piece just for me it would be one of three attached😉 this is just my three choices! There are so many beautiful pieces that I would love to own personally. 🥰
Second, thank you so much for taking the time to review the photos of the brooches and evaluating/verifying both beauties. It is so cool to be able to reach out to you in this forum, this is my first time, hopefully it won't be my last.
Your mom's creativity and forwarding thinking to add the hook on the back was ingenious! I am thankful for the Schreiner family and the gorgeous jewelry you all created. Thank each of you!
Della5355
beekeeper_42
OP5 months agoIt looks like it may be a cast piece. By the mid 30ss my grandfather stopped doing castings, and totally switched over to pre-made settings,(stone cups). Sorry I can't render an opinion on your piece. I'm glad it's been getting harder for me to ID pieces, since it means you, collectors/ sellers, have learned a lot from my posts, and weeded out the easy ones. Stephen
emma7may
·5 months agoThank you Stephen⚜️
emma7may
·5 months ago · EditedHello Stephen ~
I have valued your posts over the years! I collect your buttons and have before had questions ~ this button has the correct shank, the solder is perfect (I remember your story of your allowance if you didn’t solder perfectly when you were young) , but the crimped cups, are they the very early creations from Heinrich? I am hoping this is a true Schreiner creation.
Many Thanks,
Jenny⚜️
callie901
·7 months agoHello I have a set where the broach looks like a starfish and there are matching earrings. They were my Great Aunts and I love them . Once I figure how to add the pictures I would love to know about them.
beekeeper_42
OP7 months agoWe, and other jewelry houses made a swarm of bugs, bees, beetles, dragonflies, and butterflies in the 60s. I don't remember anything with that "beaded" wire for the antennae though. I know small detail!
ensus2015
·7 months ago · EditedI should probably have posted this here to begin with... if you have the opportunity to look at this, would you be able to tell me if it might be an unsigned Schreiner brooch please?
Unfortunately it's missing one of the leafy parts. but still a pretty piece.
Thank you!
ensus2015
·7 months ago · EditedHi again, Im going to go ahead and post this one too. I saw it verified on the Schreinery site but I've read your cautions about that site. 🙂 this insect brooch has inverted stones, no pin stop, flat on pin sides.
I immediately thought Schreiner when I saw it but would very much appreciate your thoughts on it.
vintagejewelqueen
·7 months ago · EditedGood afternoon beekeeper,
I would love to know so much if this was an unsigned Schreiner piece.
Thanks so much 🤗
beekeeper_42
OP7 months agoThis is almost a perfect counterfeit of ours, however it looks to be soft soldered
christinesclassicjewelry
·9 months agoOk, thanks so much!
beekeeper_42
OP9 months agoSadly for you it's not one of ours. Pin hinge with the little stops, and the pin it's self looks brass, two dead giveaways not one of ours
beekeeper_42
OP10 months agoThe earring clip that collectors call "Doughnut hole" came on the market rather late, so we used quite a few other's before. When we first started doing this post I asked my mom why most of our earrings were clip on. Her reply was simply," that's what the designers, and later the stores wanted". The doughnut hole clips are the only one's we used in my lifetime, at Schreiner. There are two, or three other styles that are soft soldered and come complete clip, and base. We even made a very small amount of posts, again soft solder installed. Hope it helps you understand better
dream*peddler
·10 months agoThanks for the additional information, Stephen. It all helps in learning to identify your unsigned pieces.
christinesclassicjewelry
·9 months ago · EditedFound this brooch recently, and I'm wondering if it could be Schreiner? The glass baubles are what makes me think it is, but would love verification. Thanks so much!
fabrics24
·1 month ago · EditedI'm guessing not; there's a pin stop on the back of the hinge :(
It's really beautiful, though! And I'll let Mr. Schreiner himself be the judge.
dream*peddler
·10 months ago · EditedHi @beekeeper_42 - I hope you had a nice summer. When you get a moment to poke your head in, would you give me your thoughts on these earrings I found in the wild? I see some characteristics that look right for Schreiner, but the paddles on the back don't seem right unless you used another kind besides the donut hole? Also, did you ever use saphiret stones? Thanks as always for your help and knowledge 😀!
gurlcat
·10 months agoOoooo those are cool! I'm a sucker for saphirets. Fingers crossed that they're Schreiner.
beekeeper_42
OP10 months agoWe did use that style clip early on, but more importantly we used that style base. There weren't many types of stones we didn't try, most times when they first hit the market, as most dress house designers want the newest looks. Exception was plastic, since it scratch so badly we didn't use it. One scratch resistant Lucite stones started coming out of Germany in the late 60s dad used it alot, since it was so much lighter than glass. I can't give you a 100% ID on your earrings without holding in my hand! Sorry!
dream*peddler
·10 months agoThanks for giving them a look, Stephen. I guess they'll go up as unsigned beauties.
dimakr7
·10 months agoDream, thanks for posting that, it's helpful to know that they did use that style of clip at least for a while.
dream*peddler
·10 months agoThanks, Larry. I learned something, too.
ensus2015
·11 months ago · EditedThe unique stones and the back make me wonder if this is possibly Schreiner.
Would you be able to tell me for sure?
beekeeper_42
OP10 months agoThe pin hinge is soldered on a 90 degree angle... Austrian
valesavc0
·1 year ago · EditedHello, dear beekeepr, My name is Valentina,I am from very small country -Lithuania, but am in love with your family story, I have book,also read all the conversations , it was hard for me as a girl, but I understood, what is "hard solder" ,so could I ask you for help with my necklace
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoValentina; I lived in the Netherlands for a few years. You don't get much smaller than that! There are a few ways to make the "frame" of a jewelry piece; casting, melted metal is poured into a premade form, allowed to cool, and then stones are set, usually with some type of glue, the method used on a lot of real,(gold, and silver) jewelry. The rest use factory stamped brass settings to hold the stones, these are put together by three main methods; rivets, soft or hard solder. Rivets need holes drilled then a rivet is put in to hold the two pieces together, then a punch opens the end of the rivet to hold in place. Soft solder is lead/ tin based, almost the same as plumbers use to hold together copper pipes. It has a very low melting point, and is not very strong unless the two pieces overlap each other. Hard solder is silver based, and has a much higher melting point, but makes a very strong connection. Downside is several extra cleaning steps are needed due to the type of flux, and carbon build up. Can you send me a close-up picture of the hook? We did make that style necklace but it was quickly counterfeited in Austria.
valesavc0
·1 year ago · EditedThank you for your answer, sending photos🌹
valesavc0
·1 year ago · EditedHello, once again, I am sorry for disturbing you, did you receive my photos of hook? Because yesterday it was a problem to upload them due to the large size of photos. So if not, sending the hook again. Thank you and will be waiting for your answer 😊
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoYes, I received your pictures. Bad news is, your necklace is not ours. Both my grandfather, and later my dad would hand-make each hook out of a piece of wire. Mom would complain that they looked like they should be used on a barn door instead of jewelry. I would say you have an Austrian counterfeit of ours. Sorry! Stephen
valesavc0
·1 year ago · EditedThank you so much for your help,now it's clear for me.I tried to find exact one from book or database, asked everywhere as I could,now I can sleep peacefully at night😊Have a nice day and thank you one more time ❤️
valesavc0
·1 year ago · EditedAlso photos of hook
iknowu-13
·1 year ago · EditedI should qualify that with I have read the entire thread and get the "tips and tricks" you have already mentioned! Just fishing your brain 🙈😊!
iknowu-13
·1 year agoSo Mr. B,
I found some pictures with enamel and stones in the previous book by Tanenbaum page 122. Curious if this was a mistake or did it perhaps happen only on a few occasions? I am trying to become an expert on Schreiner! It will take some time! Love the family stories! They are to b treasured! Thank you for sharing!
Kind regards,
I know you!
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoDo you have the pg. right, 122? The two dragonfly brooches? These are all "stone" set pieces. The wing stones are handmade porcelain, from occupied Japan, bought by my grandfather as an odd lot, before he died. No two are the same, and mom would look through them to get two that matched the best for the stone setters to use
iknowu-13
·1 year agoIt is in the older book "Fabulous Fakes" books and I was mistaken. They are brooches and it is millefiori glass (and not enamel) with "prong set cut stones". They don't show the backs of them in the pictures in the book so I am not sure what the craft looks like. I am waiting to get the more recent book. I am also trying to figure out the hard solder joints. I have used soft solder so I understand "flow" and it looks "messy" compared to the back of your family's jewelry but I am not sure I can really pick out your solder joints confidently yet. (It probably has to do with the craftsman and their experience? even temperature in the shop at the time maybe) I just kind of know when they aren't. If you don't have the piece in your hand, is there any other "tricks" to know how to recognize the joints and when they are in your hand, are they heavier? (I don't have any pieces yet but working on it.)
I have been working on this for the last week or two and it is fascinating! The quality of the Schreiner pieces becomes really apparent after you look around enough! Every time I think I have it down, I see a piece totally out of that box! But you can still see the quality, the sparkle and style is different than other pieces made during that same time. Anyway, thank you again for your education, expertise, and help! Your the best!
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoEasy way to tell hard, from soft solder; use a lg sewing needle if it can be pushed into the solder rather easily, it's soft solder. My dad was always willing to work with the store buyers. Sometimes he would make up some pieces for just one, or a small chain of stores. Like I said earlier, the store buyers were a wealth of knowledge of their local market. Something that might sell great in NYC, might not sell at all in Tx. or the South. By the late 60s most sores got rid of their old-time buyers. Kind of like Sears blanket buying, so their stores in Fla., and Hi had snowblowers shipped to them every year.
antiqacres
·1 year ago · EditedGood afternoon,
I'm wondering if this brooch could be Schreiner. It has the hook/loop construction on back and the cross supports that have a flattened end to them look like the stem ends on some of the Schreiner flower brooches I've seen.
Thank you for your help!
Carolyn
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoOk, The pin hinge, and catch are correct to be ours, but the pin looks like it may be brass, we used stainless steel. Round wires for the layers are good sign. However, I am suspect of the wires to the flower heads. We did flatten the end of the flower stems, to look like it was cut from the plant. Cut wires were ground smooth to prevent them from catching clothing, on the backside, but your are too deep in the piece to matter. Looking from the top there is something about it that does not say Schreiner to me. So I can't be sure, sorry.
dream*peddler
·1 year ago · EditedHi Stephen - This is a shot in the dark, but I noticed the arrangement of the clips looks similar to the type your family used. The rhinestones are very good quality and there is a left and right earring. Thanks for looking, and as always, lending us your experience and expertise is so appreciated!
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoYour getting better!! The earring clip base is correct, hard solder.
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoFirst off I don't think that this is a set. Second; the earrings layers are soft solder together, we used hook and eye, that is a wire through either a ring, or space between two settings. We did use that style clip, and base, but both are standard jewelry supply house purchase. Can you repost clear back pictures of the bracelet lock, both male, and female sides, please. Stephen
antiqacres
·1 year ago · EditedOh wow yes I see it now, the yellow stones are even a different shape in each piece which should have tipped me off. Thank you for explaining what to look for on back! I'll be much more discerning from here on out. I was able to compare the back of my bracelet to a signed Schreiner bracelet back, and there's such a difference. The Schreiner lock looks clean and quality compared to this one. There are no "globs" of solder on the Schreiner. Here's the picture, but now I see it's not Schreiner. So far I am allowing myself to only stick with signed pieces when purchasing, but I'll hopefully keep learning as I go. Thank you again Stephen.
Carolyn
the_dstone_collection1
·1 year ago · EditedGood morning Stephen
I hope you've enjoyed the holiday off from me not pestering you with my finds? 😉
I have a number of earrings that I cannot decide if they are yours...along with several belts and brooches. So if you don't mind, like before I will throw 2-3 at you at a time? Don't worry I'm too scatterbrained to hit you with postings one right after the other. As always many thanks for your patience and tutelage! David
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoSorry I was out of town for a bit. The belt is 100% ours. Belts kept our business afloat in the early 70s. The middle pin could be, since we did sometimes use a ring, instead of a hook, depending on what material was used for it to hang on. Also the earrings could be ours. The long blade earring base is correct. Dad often covered a large center stone with smaller stones, but not sure about the leaves, so I can't say 100%
the_dstone_collection1
·1 year ago · EditedWas getting concerned about ya! That's great news regarding the trio I sent. Thank you!
Is it too soon to throw a few more at you?
As always many many thanks for your help!
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoThe belt is 100% ours. We made jeweled belt fronts for single, double, and triple strands of stretch belt chain depending on how large the belt front was. Is the pin in the bar brooch with the dangles brass, or natural steel colored? Hard to tell from the pictures. Earrings could be, but not 100% sure without holding them in my hands
the_dstone_collection1
·1 year ago · EditedOK, I'm hoping third times a charm. I've tried to respond to your question about the pin twice before, and it doesn't seem to post? Technology and I do not get along anymore it seems?
The pin is steel. I know it's hard to tell that it looks like brass, but it's definitely not. That much I have learned from your lessons.
So if it's a steel pin, does that make it possibly one of your family's?
I do have another question however…
Did you only use non-silvered Rhinestones in open settings? In other words, would you have ever used silver stones and open back settings?
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoIf you can push the steel pin into the solder easily it's not one of ours since it is soft solder construction. Hard solder between settings. We used some lead based'SOFT SOLDER" for screw-back, and some other style earring clips, also bracelet locks. We also used it if a "drop" needed to stay in one position, then the drop wire was tacked with soft solder. I put several posts about us being the first to use unfoiled stones earlier
beekeeper_42
OP1 year agoOn your bar pin with the taper chain, we did use multi prong settings. HOWEVER, we used the higher quality settings out of Europe that was stamped out of a slightly higher gauge brass sheet metal. The American ones were very weak, and for some reason more finely cut prongs that didn't hold up well
antiqacres
·1 year ago · EditedGood morning Stephen,
I've been researching this set, as I noticed the paddle earring underwork. They don't have the round donut hole tip though. My research led me to the Schreinery website this morning, where I found a verified pair with the same backing. Now I've got my fingers crossed that these have a chance of being Schreiner pieces. It's always an exciting hunt for the real deal! T
hank you again for always sharing your time and expertise to us all, it is so much appreciated!
Carolyn