What does "Made by Saake" mean on framed print
I have this print titled “When will you marry me†or “will you marry me†by Paul Gauguin. There are many I find and very affordable. I was wondering what is meant by Made by Saake in Oakland CA. I’m not really finding anything about this place. Just curious what is meant by made by. Is it the frame, the print? Since there are many prints and repros out there by different artists, could it have been a artist at Saake that made a print of this? Was this a studio? The title on bottom has Paul Gauguin name spelt wrong as when I googled it, it came up with Paul Gauguin and yes, it was associated with this print. I didn’t notice that it was signed at first. Apparently, he was not famous in his lifetime as a artist but has become famous due to his painting being sold after his death. I was drawn to the print due to the colors, not knowing who the artist was. The print reminds me of Asian panel ink, sort of pearlescent. I am hoping someone is familiar with Saake business and what they did, how long they existed, etc. By researching other prints with the Made by Saake label, not much info is provided who they were. By looks of the back, seems pretty recent. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
tobaccocardyahoo
·2 years agoMy guess is that it is a lithograph AFTER Gauguin. Not photo-offset but not an original either.
There were Ateliers who produced reproductions which were copies by staff artists, hence the differences from the painting. Edition size varied.
No disagreement with the poster who said it was a stone litho. It is but not by Gauguin.
I believe it should be valued for its decorative value.
comptonbrosinc
·2 years ago 
 I picked up something because of the similar vibrancy and detail. Someone loved what they did at Saake…
lacemaker3
·2 years agoThe original painting was oil on canvas, done in 1892. It was bought for US$300 million in 2015 by the Emir of Qatar. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quand_te_maries-tu_%3
These side-by-side comparisons clearly show that @pacr_2188's copy is not a photographic reproduction of the original painting.
It may not be a print, per se. Could it be a hand-painted copy? Maybe a pastel painting?
lacemaker3
·2 years agoIf not a hand-painted copy, then it may have been a print of a hand-made copy, or one of a number of stone-lithograph copies.
sonomabarn67
·2 years agoTechnically, the litho stone would be a unique work but not considered a first; that would be reserved for paper prints pulled from it. The limestone stone was drawn upon with a grease pencil, fixed and prints made from that. In that process, by hand, there would be many small differences between the original painting and the resulting image which would become the "first" with many copies (but only after numerous test prints to nail down the image).
Also, those stones at 2 to 3" thick were very heavy.
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThank you lacemaker3 ! I'm impressed. I couldn't really see what the original painting title looked like and there is a difference. I have no idea what type of print this is, but I took another pic to show where I see the pearlescent ink? Not sure if that means anything. Now, I'm wondering if this was more of a poster since it has Nafea and though incorrectly spelt Paul Gauguin on bottom. Or maybe his name was intended to be spelt that way. Who knows. Lol.
sonomabarn67
·2 years agoNow that there is a close up I believe it to be a lithograph.
sonomabarn67
·2 years agoSaake was an Oakland picture framer and had nothing to do with the making of the print.
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThank you sonomabarn67 ! Now I am curious about the print. No dots and I can't believe the artist name is spelt incorrectly. Nicely done though. Appreciate your clarification.
maxine*j
·2 years agoThe name of the original painting and the name of the man who painted are both wrong, which must certainly lower whatever value it might have.
The name of the painting in Tahitian is Nafea faa ipoipo? The artist is Paul Gauguin. (The name of the painting in French is Quand te maries-tu? and in English When Will you Marry?)
You said you did not see dots when you looked at it with a magnifier. What did you see? If it's a traditional, non-mechanical, lithograph, you'll see a sort of stippled pattern all over but any dots are rather small, vary somewhat in size, are in no set pattern.
Graphics Atlas is a great resource when trying to determine what sort of print or reproduction one has:
http://www.graphicsatlas.org/
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lacemaker3
·2 years agoHere's a link to the full-size image in @pacr_2188,'s closeup in this reply. It's quite a high-resolution image, so the experts night be able to get a better idea of how the print was made. If you click this link to open it, and then click on it again, it will enlarge even more.
https://community.ebay.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/861859i6824439247A3562B/
It looks to me as though it has been printed in paper with a distinct woven texture, possibly to look more like a painting on canvas.
Here's an enlarged screenshot from the link above:
https://community.ebay.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/861949i7F5B4319FB99B6DB/
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThank you lacemaker3. It is on paper and it has a pearlescent look to it on the cream color background like asian screen panels. I don't see any uniformed dots when I look through a loupe.
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThis is the name of this print. Spelt wrong too? Lol.
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThank you maxine*j ! I don't see uniformed dots when I look through a loupe. Not sure of the name of this print but its doesn't seem to be spelt the way you spelt it. Maybe it says something else?
maxine*j
·2 years agoSame work of art. Same name. Variation in how Tahitian is written / rendered.
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sonomabarn67
·2 years agoI don't know if it has already been mentioned but this is a stone lithograph, unless everything I've learned has been wrong.
lacemaker3
·2 years ago@sonomabarn67,
I agree, I don't think this is a photographically produced lithograph.
Stone lithographs are manually produced, which would mean that this would be a copy produced by an artisan. The workmanship appears to be quite good. Possibly, not fluent in the languages involved (French and Tahitian).
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThank you sonomabarn67 ! This image measures 22" H x 17" W. That would be a huge stone. Is that possible?
jameshen1
·2 years agoI think that Made by Saake refers to the frame only. Saake Studio in Oakland, California was famous for their frames and as a framing studio at one point.
Just my humble opinion. Hopefully others will chime in
pacr_2188
OP2 years agoThank you jameshen1 ! After your response, I googled and added studio to saake. I read it was also a gallery at one point and began on Telegraph in Oakland Ca. I never saw a label that read "Made by" on a print before so I wasn't sure what was meant by that. I couldn't find when it went out of business though. My label looks so recent. Much appreciated, very helpful !
maeday76
·2 years agoLook at the phone number, that's an OLD frame.
lux.ra_14
·2 years agoIt's an address, not a phone number: 375 13th St.
Saake had an earlier address on Telegraph, so figuring out when it moved would help with a date range for the frame.