Counterfeit Morgan Dollars
Summary: El tema de discusión es sobre los dólares Morgan falsificados. Sin embargo, no se proporciona contenido específico en las publicaciones, por lo que se desconoce la naturaleza exacta de la conversación o las opiniones de los participantes.
Fake 1893 s Morgan dollars are suddenly everywhere. All the sellers have 0 or low feedback. All of them are selling Morgan dollars that are counterfeit. They all show like 5-10 1893 s Morgan dollars in stock or other rare Morgan dollars. The cheapest you can buy any 1893 s Morgan dollar is maybe $3000.00. They are all selling theirs for $45.00 to $109.00. The rest of their listing are a lot of CC mint mark and rare dates. Selling for almost nothing. I have complained to eBay and they emailed me saying nothing is wrong. AI generated of course. This is ruining the hobby and making eBay a safe haven for scammers. I am thinking twice before purchasing any more coins. It is out of control, there are at least thirty 0 or low feedback selling 1893 s and other rare date Morgan dollars for little to nothing. I wish I had 10+ 1893 s Morgans to sell. I have been collecting for 40+ years and only seen about 10 in my life. Please help make them go away. It is going to crash our hobby.
stephenmorgan
·2 months agoThey are suddenly everywhere because the Die's to make them have just be perfected to where they can mass produce them for the market.
Turn them in the to US Secret Services, the FBI, and to the USPS if they used the USPS.
Secret Services go here
US Secret Services Counterfeit Investigations
FBI Complaint go here.
FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)
If they are going thru the USPS you can complain here.
United States Postal Inspection Service
Enough complaints about these activities and maybe something will be figured out on how to stop it.
eburtonlab
·2 months ago@2396angel
Counterfeit items are not allowed to be listed on eBay at all. No one is authorized to sell counterfeit items. That fact alone does not stop some people from trying to sell them, however.
The problem is that unscrupulous or uninformed sellers can list genuine items and then deliver counterfeit items.
It is not always possible to look at a listing and know in advance exactly what, if anything, the seller intends to deliver. For one thing, a scammer can simply copy a listing from a genuine seller, using a genuine photo of a genuine item.
Except for a few specific categories of items that go through authentication, eBay never sees what the seller ships or the what the buyer receives, so there is nothing for eBay to check unless someone complains about what was received by invoking eBay's money back guarantee.
Sellers are responsible for the descriptions they provide, and buyers should not assume that eBay screens the listings in advance.
As long as counterfeits exist and there are folks trying to sell them, buyers will still have to be on the lookout for them, and avoid deals that are obviously too-good-to-be-true, whether they are being sold by accounts registered overseas or by domestic sellers wittingly or unwittingly buying counterfeits from overseas to sell here.
Buyers that doubt their ability to distinguish a genuine article from a counterfeit one should only consider purchasing from trustworthy sellers that have an established reputation for delivering exactly what was described, and should avoid deals that are too-good-to-be-true, or deals that are offered by inexperienced sellers that might disappear soon after the transaction is made, or else be prepared to get items authenticated by trusted sources within the time eBay allows to take advantage of eBay's money back guarantee.
tobaccocardyahoo
·2 months agoIf anyone buys one of these counterfeits, they can within 30 days of receipt be protected by the Ebay Money Back Guarantee and receive a refund. Sellers who have repeated MBG claims exceeding some secret threshold will be disciplined.
Coin collecting has had to deal with counterfeits for at least 65 years, and amazingly has survived. Not as popular as it once was but not extinct either.
There probably are fewer fools who buy from these sellers than you think there are.
2396angel
OP2 months agoThere have always been fakes. Been around coins since the 60's. I don't like scammers. They are suddenly out of control on eBay. If you check the quantity left on the sellers listing they are selling like hot cakes. One seller shows 6 sold yesterday and today only shows one left. The minute they get kicked off the site another 3 replace them. It has went crazy in the last week. Just type in 1893 s Morgan dollar. Compare their listings, they are all using shared pictures. On some there is no S even on the coin. Others call it a Carson City mint. Other have the serial numbers blacked out on a PCGS holder. When these all get bought and put back into circulation it will ruin the hobby. Also all of the other dollars in these sellers listings are rare Morgan Dollar fakes. People are buying them.
ryry-jj
·2 months agoCoins are now 3 days. If listed as a "collectible", then I think you still get a 30 MBG window