winning bids
i am finding it odd if i win a bid from a seller in China and then get an email saying the item is no longer available. This has happened several times. i thought if my bid won the seller has to honor that bid. Even if it is a low bid and your the only bid. There was no minimum bid on the items. So is it a new rule if i do not like a winning bid i can claim the item is not available?
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2deby2
OP10 months agothere is something going on with Ebay and bidding, for example on an item with no minimum bid and no bids. starting at .99 cents i place a $3.00 bid and it pops up as out bid. How can that be if i am the first and only bidder? This is going on with sellers from China. is Ebay rigged in some way?
kathiec
·10 months ago@2deby2
Do you have an item number of a listing where that's happened?
mudshark61369
·11 months ago@2deby2 ,
If you want to stop this from happening, Stop bidding on .99cent starting bid auctions from China based sellers. One of two things will happen of you bid on them. 1) shills will come along and bid up the price, and if you lose the winning bid will be cancelled at the last second. 2) The seller will not honor the .99cent win.
If they do ship, it will be with fake tracking to an address in your zip code or what you receive will be junk.
simba6
·11 months agoThe seller does receive a serious NPS defect for doing that. Too many of those can get them banned from selling for life. eBay has never disclosed how many it too many. Sellers do get banned NARU over that.
So is it a new rule if i do not like a winning bid i can claim the item is not available? You could but it's breaking the rules and you could get banned over it.
Some sellers over there don't always stick to the rules. Got to check their feedback before clicking.
2deby2
OP11 months agonow i have been watching and tracking bidding and it looks like "bidding" is not what Ebay says it is. Simply if the bid is to low the seller removes the item as no longer available, then will relist it. i have watched this happen over and over. Why not list it as a buy now or have a minimum bid?
Ebay has to close this loop hole some how
soh.maryl
·11 months agoWhen a seller removes an item that has bids as OOS, the seller gets a defect.
What is your suggestion for how eBay could "close this loophole"?
eburtonlab
·11 months agoSimply if the bid is to low the seller removes the item as no longer available, then will relist it. i have watched this happen over and over.
Sellers that do this are inexperienced or are using new accounts at the least. Sellers that do that too many times lose their selling privileges or their accounts and do not become experienced sellers, or at least have to open new accounts under new names with no history.
It follows, then, that buyers can avoid much of this behavior by sticking with experienced, domestic sellers that have a proven history of delivering what they advertise, and by avoiding new or inexperienced sellers, sellers registered overseas, or sellers that show obvious signs of listing items for auction at 99 cents which then sell with only one bid, but for which the seller somehow never receives feedback.
2deby2
OP1 year agoi tracked a win and got the Email this item is no longer available then a week later the item appeared as a new listing. Sure i qot it for .99 cents because i was the only bidder but that is not my problem the seller lost on a $20.00 item.
Personally Ebay should step in and make it so if an item has a bid the item cannot be "unavailable" at the whim of the seller because they do not like the bid
What's the point of bidding?
janet9988
·11 months agoSame can be said about buyers retracting their bid, as those are also binding.
buyselljack2016
·1 year agonothing new
If the cancelation is for "no longer available", "out of stock" then that would/should result in a defect on the selling account.
tobaccocardyahoo
·1 year agoMany clueless or inexperienced sellers who inappropriately use auction listings fail to recognize that they will not have competitive bidding and cancel sales which are money losers. It places their Ebay selling account at risk but often their Ebay selling account is worth less than the losses on their auctions.
These sellers need not be outside the US. There are plenty of American sellers who are in this situation.
A realistic bidder in one of these auctions would recognize that few sellers are willing to accept these losses, and would not be surprised when the order is cancelled.
an-57470
·1 year ago@2deby2
It is not supposed to work that way. Unfortunately, many Chinese and Indian sellers run their auctions this way.
As noted above, you can report them, but these sellers usually have numerous accounts, so having one shut down has little effect.
eburtonlab
·1 year agoeBay cannot force a buyer to pay or a seller to ship. eBay can only penalize user accounts that do not live up to their obligations.
If you think the seller has cancelled for an inappropriate reason, report that to eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/help/action?topicId=4850
redmodelt
·1 year agoWhile the help/contact is a great source of information, sometimes getting the correct wording to frame the question in the search box can be hit and miss. Thank you for posting the link.
eburtonlab
·1 year agoWhile the help/contact is a great source of information, sometimes getting the correct wording to frame the question in the search box can be hit and miss. Thank you for posting the link.
I think a combination of avoiding new or inexperienced sellers, as well as any other sellers that show any signs of being problems in that regard, and then reporting those more experienced sellers that do cancel for inappropriate reasons is probably a sound course of action.