Something fishy is going on with OrangeConnex

I'm tired of the irrelevant direction of my topic in the chain discussions as gone. I can't delete my initial comment so I'm pulling all my comments. All my response windows will say: BLANK - nothing to add.

jon-2795

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Posted 11 months ago · Edited 11 months ago·Last reply 11 months ago

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tobaccocardyahoo

·11 months ago

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@jon-2795

Co-Pilot is ChatGPT with a Microsoft Label.

Only one AI program was involved. You get the same result because you asked the same software, the same question.

Also, many of the same sources are used in training different AI software and often make the same errors because they are using inaccurate information found on the internet. Your very posts on this forum may cause future AI errors.

jon-2795

OP11 months ago

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lacemaker3

·11 months ago

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@lacemaker3 wrote:
@jon-2795 wrote:
I bought 2 different items on Ebay from 2 separate sellers. I later confirmed from each seller, it wasn't the same person with 2 different vendor accounts. Anyways, the tracking numbers I got from OrangeConnex had major RED FLAG warnings. In the tracking history, the last 9 dated and time stamped entries were identical, down to the same minute and second, which is impossible! The last identical date and time stamped entry had both packages sitting at 'local facility' for over 2 and a half weeks! Once a package gets delivered to the 'local facility', you should get it delivered in a few days.

Neither vendor has given me a problem with giving me a refund. Neither vendor explained their reasons but deep down they knew my packages were 'intercepted' - uh...I mean stolen. There's no way in hell 2 separate packages would have the identical tracking history down to the minute and second for multiple dated entries. My guess is someone at OrangeConnex was too lazy to spend time on creating unique but false tracking information, so this person just copied and pasted this bogus tracking history on - who knows how many different packages?

Fortunately, I had 2 different tracking numbers, which proved the tracking information was bogus. But has anyone else had a suspicious tracking number from OrangeConnex with a detailed history of the package's whereabouts, ending up with the last entry of 'delivered to local facility' but you never got your package delivered?

@jon-2795 wrote:
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I highly doubt your "artificial idiocy" comment is valid because 2 separate AI's were able to identify that it's impossible for multiple dated and time stamped tracking entries from 2 non-related packages to be identical.

Not a good argument. AI feeds on itself, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Which doesn't improve its accuracy.

No, Meta and Google, Cape Breton doesn't have its own time zone:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/cape-breton-time-zone-ai-1.7559597

Any time several packages are being shipped inside a container, the container manifest scans are going to control the tracking results for all the packages. That's just how it works. Anyone who works in, or understands logistics knows that. There's a reason it's called Artificial Idiocy.

@tobaccocardyahoo wrote:
@jon-2795
Co-Pilot is ChatGPT with a Microsoft Label.

Only one AI program was involved. You get the same result because you asked the same software, the same question.

Also, many of the same sources are used in training different AI software and often make the same errors because they are using inaccurate information found on the internet. Your very posts on this forum may cause future AI errors.

@jon-2795 ,

What part of:

"Not a good argument. AI feeds on itself, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Which doesn't improve its accuracy."

do you not understand?

Also:

@lacemaker3 wrote:...

Any time several packages are being shipped inside a container, the container manifest scans are going to control the tracking results for all the packages. That's just how it works. Anyone who works in, or understands logistics knows that. There's a reason it's called Artificial Idiocy.

jon-2795

OP11 months ago

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lacemaker3

·11 months ago

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@jon-2795 wrote:
I bought 2 different items on Ebay from 2 separate sellers. I later confirmed from each seller, it wasn't the same person with 2 different vendor accounts. Anyways, the tracking numbers I got from OrangeConnex had major RED FLAG warnings. In the tracking history, the last 9 dated and time stamped entries were identical, down to the same minute and second, which is impossible! The last identical date and time stamped entry had both packages sitting at 'local facility' for over 2 and a half weeks! Once a package gets delivered to the 'local facility', you should get it delivered in a few days.

Neither vendor has given me a problem with giving me a refund. Neither vendor explained their reasons but deep down they knew my packages were 'intercepted' - uh...I mean stolen. There's no way in hell 2 separate packages would have the identical tracking history down to the minute and second for multiple dated entries. My guess is someone at OrangeConnex was too lazy to spend time on creating unique but false tracking information, so this person just copied and pasted this bogus tracking history on - who knows how many different packages?

Fortunately, I had 2 different tracking numbers, which proved the tracking information was bogus. But has anyone else had a suspicious tracking number from OrangeConnex with a detailed history of the package's whereabouts, ending up with the last entry of 'delivered to local facility' but you never got your package delivered?

@jon-2795 wrote:

Which part of a statical anomaly don't you get? OK - so until you purchase 2 or more items from different vendors, get different tracking numbers, yet each have an identical tracking history of date and stamped events and you still haven't received your packages THEN AND ONLY THEN get back to me - OK!!!'

It's enough - please stop pestering me with your nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jon-2795 wrote:
I'm tired of the irrelevant direction of my topic in the chain discussions as gone. I can't delete my initial comment so I'm pulling all my comments. All my response windows will say: BLANK - nothing to add.

OK, I won't trouble () you with any more logic.

jon-2795

OP11 months ago

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gone.c-33

·11 months ago

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Since most people donâ€™t post about situations with good outcomes, whatever AI chat bot youâ€™ll ask will mostly know about the situations with negative outcomes.

Stop asking AI questions, thatâ€™s how so much misinformation is being spread these days and the kids start saying dinosaurs arenâ€™t real and that thereâ€™s a drowned continent between Asia and America called Lemuriaâ€¦

lacemaker3

·11 months ago

4, 3, 2, 1 ... Earth below us, drifting, falling ... Floating weightless, calling, calling ...690 View listings

@jon-2795 wrote:
I bought 2 different items on Ebay from 2 separate sellers. I later confirmed from each seller, it wasn't the same person with 2 different vendor accounts. Anyways, the tracking numbers I got from OrangeConnex had major RED FLAG warnings. In the tracking history, the last 9 dated and time stamped entries were identical, down to the same minute and second, which is impossible! The last identical date and time stamped entry had both packages sitting at 'local facility' for over 2 and a half weeks! Once a package gets delivered to the 'local facility', you should get it delivered in a few days.

Neither vendor has given me a problem with giving me a refund. Neither vendor explained their reasons but deep down they knew my packages were 'intercepted' - uh...I mean stolen. There's no way in hell 2 separate packages would have the identical tracking history down to the minute and second for multiple dated entries. My guess is someone at OrangeConnex was too lazy to spend time on creating unique but false tracking information, so this person just copied and pasted this bogus tracking history on - who knows how many different packages?

Fortunately, I had 2 different tracking numbers, which proved the tracking information was bogus. But has anyone else had a suspicious tracking number from OrangeConnex with a detailed history of the package's whereabouts, ending up with the last entry of 'delivered to local facility' but you never got your package delivered?

@jon-2795, that is not impossible at all.

OrangeConnex packages are being shipped from China. If your two packages were in the same container, then they would have to have the same tracking information. They don't scan each package individually, each container has a manifest, with all the individual packages listed on it. They scan the manifest, and all the packages in it get updated at the exact same time.

I see that you are registered in Canada. If the "local facility" is the first stop in Canada, or shortly after that, then they are being held up in customs, or delayed with Canada Post. The postal carriers rejected Canada Post's last offer (August 1, 2025) and there are currently a lot of delays as a result of work slow downs.

You have to be very critical and discriminating about accepting any information from AI. It is called "artificial idiocy", after all.

The "fake tracking number" scam does happen, but it is not confined to OrangeConnex. It seems to happen more often with the more mainstream carriers, actually.

jon-2795

OP11 months ago

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lacemaker3

·11 months ago

4, 3, 2, 1 ... Earth below us, drifting, falling ... Floating weightless, calling, calling ...690 View listings

@jon-2795 wrote:
I bought 2 different items on Ebay from 2 separate sellers. I later confirmed from each seller, it wasn't the same person with 2 different vendor accounts. Anyways, the tracking numbers I got from OrangeConnex had major RED FLAG warnings. In the tracking history, the last 9 dated and time stamped entries were identical, down to the same minute and second, which is impossible! The last identical date and time stamped entry had both packages sitting at 'local facility' for over 2 and a half weeks! Once a package gets delivered to the 'local facility', you should get it delivered in a few days.

Neither vendor has given me a problem with giving me a refund. Neither vendor explained their reasons but deep down they knew my packages were 'intercepted' - uh...I mean stolen. There's no way in hell 2 separate packages would have the identical tracking history down to the minute and second for multiple dated entries. My guess is someone at OrangeConnex was too lazy to spend time on creating unique but false tracking information, so this person just copied and pasted this bogus tracking history on - who knows how many different packages?

Fortunately, I had 2 different tracking numbers, which proved the tracking information was bogus. But has anyone else had a suspicious tracking number from OrangeConnex with a detailed history of the package's whereabouts, ending up with the last entry of 'delivered to local facility' but you never got your package delivered?

@jon-2795 wrote:
...

I highly doubt your "artificial idiocy" comment is valid because 2 separate AI's were able to identify that it's impossible for multiple dated and time stamped tracking entries from 2 non-related packages to be identical.

Not a good argument. AI feeds on itself, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Which doesn't improve its accuracy.

No, Meta and Google, Cape Breton doesn't have its own time zone:

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/cape-breton-time-zone-ai-1.7559597

Any time several packages are being shipped inside a container, the container manifest scans are going to control the tracking results for all the packages. That's just how it works. Anyone who works in, or understands logistics knows that. There's a reason it's called Artificial Idiocy.

jon-2795

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mudshark61369

·11 months ago

"There is no such thing as foolproof, because fools are so darned ingenious" (unknown)3105 View listings

eburtonlab

·11 months ago

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@jon-2795

What kind of feedback for selling did each of those seller have? Where were those sellers registered? Was it a different location than the location the seller claimed to be shipping from in the listing? How long had the seller been selling similar items? Were the deals "too good to be true"?

In retrospect, was there anything about those sellers or those listings that you could identify that might allow you to avoid buying from such a seller in the future?

jon-2795

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eburtonlab

·11 months ago

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One seller has 99% positive feedback with 66K items sold and 1.8K followers.

The other seller has 99.4% positive feedback with 44k items sold and 1.5K followers.

Neither of those sellers are typical fly-by-night scammers, then.

If those sellers are drop-shipping from multiple sources, they may have simply chosen the wrong drop-shipping outfit to work with for that particular item.

What country location is shown on each of those sellers' feedback pages? Different from the shipping location in their listings?

jon-2795

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eburtonlab

·11 months ago

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If you are looking at the classic feedback page using a desktop browser, at the top there should be a "Memeber since [date] in [country]".

If you do not see that, try going to the seller's profile page (click on the seller username on one of the seller's listings) and from there select the "About" tab and you should see the registration location and date of registration.

jon-2795

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eburtonlab

·11 months ago

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@jon-2795

Here is what I see when I view your Feedback page:

Note the "Member since May-27-24 in Canada" in the middle.