Lost a bid
I lost a bid I was winning and had been winning because for no reason with less than a minute left I was blocked and I am not the only person this has happened too with this seller.
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I lost a bid I was winning and had been winning because for no reason with less than a minute left I was blocked and I am not the only person this has happened too with this seller.
mudshark61369
·2 years ago@saabs8805,
In looking at the bid history I can now see the Cancellation, and maybe it was the seller who cancelled your bid item # 39533640778. However, that seller has listed several packs like that one over the past few months, and has not cancelled any bids on the other auctions, including another auction for the same item that ended about 30 minutes later on the 20th.
In looking at the seller's feedback, it seems they do cancel Transactions after people have paid, and apparently blocked one other bidder from bidding on more items after they won one.
In looking at their other auctions, it appears you were the only (1) feedback bidder who bid on those auctions, and that was probably the reason why they cancelled your bids. Sellers tend to be leery of very low feedback bidders, especially those who nibble bid, and may cancel their bids. Sellers have the right to do that, and other than not bidding on their items again, there is nothing you can do about it. Had you waited and only bid once on the auction with a minute or less left, they probably would not have had the time to cancel your bids.
FYI, I did an advanced search for those listings, and found several sold for much less money. So apparently yours and other nibble bidders are what drove up the price of that auction.
albertabrightalberta
·2 years agoUnless you used a different ID to place your bid earlier in the listing, the $1200 bid is the only one you placed and it was done 11 minutes prior to the end of the auction and was canceled by the seller 11 minutes later:
saabs8805
OP2 years agoDid you not look at the pic I just replied with that should a max bid off 300.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoIf I had used a different account you would see a bid for 232.50 correct because that amount wouldn't have been removed like my other bids.
mudshark61369
·2 years ago@saabs8805,
What might help is if you still have the auction saved, to post either the ebay item number found in the upper right of the item specifics box, or a screen shot of the bid history page. Maybe then we can give you more info. I still think because of your profile you ran into the new member limit.
saabs8805
OP2 years agohttps://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-TOPPS-XMAS-BASEBALL-RACK-PACK-MICKEY-MANTLE-ROGER-MARIS-FRANK-ROBINSON/395336407778. Was the listing It was a once in a lifetime chance since I haven't come across any others listed where I could buy now.
albertabrightalberta
·2 years agoThey couldn't reach out because you didn't place your bid until the very end of the listing.
You claimed to have bid 12 hours before the listing ended. However the bidding history shows you placed your bid just 11 minutes before the end of the listing, after which the seller canceled it about 1.5 minutes before it ended.
Again, no one can speak for the seller as to the exact reason they canceled your bid but they did it for whatever reasons they had. I don't know what the highest proxy bid was of the ultimate winner but maybe it bumped up the selling price so much higher that it scared the seller.
Who knows? It happened and there's nothing you can do about it.
saabs8805
OP2 years agohttps://photos.app.goo.gl/JNxMqpWHTjWVPk4t6
Look at the timestamp in the bidding history to see the time when it was at the 300 mark and you'll see how long before the auction ended that was placed.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoThe bid price was 1 day 14 hrs ago according to the time stamp. The auction ended yesterday at 520pm so please don't try to call me out like that if I have the proof. I wouldn't have posted if I didn't have the proof.
albertabrightalberta
·2 years agoAccording to the bid history, your bid was placed at 5:09:57. It was canceled at 5:18:37. Auction ended at 5:20:01.
The only bid I see for $232.50 (shown in your screenshot) was from a 169 feedback bidder. Is that you using another ID?
Bidding history:
I think you're mistaken on the time and number of bids you placed.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoNo it erased all my bidding history when they canceled it. Cuz if you look my screen name doesn't show anywhere in the bidding history. I have been here less time than you and already know something you don't. So thank you for living up to a Tom Mcdonald song proving his point.
lacemaker3
·2 years agoWhen a seller cancels a bid, I believe they are given the option to cancel all of the bidder's bids at one time.
That is probably what happened here, and would explain why only the last bid appears, even though there were others.
eBay has manipulated the bid history after cancellations/retractions in the past. I see no reason not to suspect that it may have happened again. It is very confusing when eBay does this.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoLooks at the screen names and why did someone keep raising the bid on themselves. Look deeper at the picture examine the details and realize.
Unavailable member
·2 years agoYour bid was canceled for whatever reason...rehashing it will not change the outcome....move on already sheesh. 🙄
saabs8805
OP2 years agohttps://photos.app.goo.gl/dGcckHQ25Sh8MzR38
saabs8805
OP2 years agoThing is you guys are replying to an ebay edited post. They edited it these are not my exact words. The post wasnt Lost a bid. They edited the title and what the post said.. It was to stay away from a specific seller with a history of blocking people at the last minute on auctions. I'm sure this will get edited also.
house*of*paws
·2 years agoHi @saabs8805
We’re not allowed to warn members away from specific people. Usernames will be deleted.
There’s no reason for your last post to be deleted. It’s fine. 🙂
gosimus
·2 years ago@saabs8805
< you guys are replying to an ebay edited post >
I saw your post last night before the moderator edited it. I started to answer, and my answer would have referred to the same limit that @mudshark61369 was talking about. When I went to the Help page, to link you to details in eBay's own words, I found that it didn't refer explicitly to limiting bids, as I thought I remembered; it seemed to be applying only to a limit on purchases, so I aborted my reply. I didn't realize that the Help page had been rewritten.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoLove that they have all the control when you are trying to help people. Trust me if I knew that in the last minute they were going to cancel my bids I would have saved my time and effort and just found a card store or gone to a different auction site and spent my time.
albertabrightalberta
·2 years agoI'm not the seller so I don't know what the seller was thinking when they canceled your bid. (I'm not even sure your bid can be canceled with just 1 minute left in the auction!)
But if indeed you were the high bidder, there's no logical reason for a seller to cancel your bid and block you since they'd make more money selling at a higher price!
But having said that, sellers look at buyers' feedback (more often what's left for others) but in this case, I've got to wonder whether the seller might have inferred a problem buyer when seeing the 1 feedback @saabs8805 has. However in looking at other feedbacks left by the same seller (not the one in question), I see that the seller has a habit of leaving feedback that makes buyers look bad. (I'm not sure of the seller's end game here!)
mudshark61369
·2 years ago@saabs8805,
"I lost a bid I was winning and had been winning because for no reason with less than a minute left I was blocked... I had been bidding on this item for over 12 hrs".
You were likely kept from bidding, because you reached a new buyer limit on how much you can spend and/or how many items you can buy at any one given time. The limits are placed on all new buyers accounts, and on buyer's accounts that have been inactive for over a year.
The link below seems to have been rewritten again, leaving out some important information. When the limits are applied To new or infrequent buyers, and especially, about the Open transaction limits. The amount you are allowed to spend is not specified, nor is how long the limits will last. Basically ebay will tell you to buy from Buy It Now (BIN) listings and pay immediately, which proves you are a reliable buyer.
https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/buying-limits-restrictions/buying-limits-restrictions?id=4012
Open transactions are:
Items you have committed to buy, but have yet to pay for.
Offers you have sent that have yet to be accepted/declined by a seller, or time out after 24 hours.
Each l bid placed on 1 or more auctions, until the auction ends and you win and pay, or you are outbid on and lose. Bids you have been out bid on remain active (open) until an auction ends, because another bidder could retract their bid, or a seller could cancel someone's bids, for some reason, leaving you the winner.
The number of open transactions that are allowed at any one time while the limits are in place, is 4 or 5. That is a rolling number and can be reused when you pay for an item, or in the case of auctions, you win and pay, or lose.
If you want to participate in auctions, the best way to bid is to place one automatic bid for the most you are willing to pay for the item, and to place that bid close to the end of an auction. Bidding over and over again, one increment at a time which experienced members call nibble bidding, means you will always be reacting to other's bids. Read the information in the link below especially the part about Automatic bidding.
If you open the link about Tips for bidding, there is another link in that about Bid sniping. Sniping is placing an automatic bid in the last seconds of an auction. It takes practice to snipe, but if your automatic bid that was placed earlier is higher than the sniper's you will win. It is not always the last bid that wins, but the highest one. Adding a few odd cents to your automatic bid can break a tie if you and another person bid the same amount. It is possible to win an auction by as little as a penny, at the very end.
https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/bidding/bidding?id=4003
12345jamesstamps
·2 years agoYou have 1 feedback.
Seller has the right to block bidders or cancel bids.
Seller might prefer buyers who make purchases at least once a month.
Some sellers when they see a 0 feedback bidder...I said some...that is the outcome.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoThen don't wait till there is 1 minute left I had been bidding on this item for over 12 hrs. They could have reached out and told me well before. That is their right and it's my right to worn people that this could happen to them. Well if I was the winner of that auction I would file a complaint because the winner still had to pay alot more because of what I had set for my high bid.
fab_finds4u
·2 years agoWell if I was the winner I would file a complaint because the winner still had to pay a lot more because of what I had set for my high bid.
LoL, that's ridiculous. How can you complain you paid too much when your high bid is what you were willing to pay?
mudshark61369
·2 years ago@fab_finds4u,
I'm still on my first cup, so maybe I'm not fully cognizant yet.
But, Don't you mean why would the winner complain, when their bid was the higher one, and they already knew how much they had to pay to win?
doc-holmes
·2 years agoI'm pretty sure they mean if they were the other person who did actually win the auction, they'd be upset because their (the OP's) bid raised the price the actual winner paid. Still not accurate, but better than you read it to be.
dryophelia
·2 years ago@saabs8805
One should not be ‘bidding for 12 hours’.
Decide the absolute maximum you are willing to pay and add a few cents.
Then, bid once, bid your absolute maximum and bid as late as possible.
One doesn’t have to, nor should they, react to every bid above them.
If you bid early, you give others a chance to bid against you.
It gives the seller time to look at your profile and perhaps, make judgements against you, such as your low feedback score. It’s not fair, but it happens.
Bidding late doesn’t always win. Sometimes there are others willing to pay more.
saabs8805
OP2 years agoWell i set my projected max bid and that lasted till the last 2 hrs of the the twelve since I had placed it. then I set my absolute max bid which was 500 over the current bid so I couldn't be bid sniped in the last 10 seconds. And with 10 sends left I get a message saying all my bids on this item were canceled because they couldn't verify the buyer.