Loopholes which sellers are using to circumvent ebay return policy
Im seeing sellers try to sell items that are labeled as " junk, as is for parts"
Then goes on to decribe the item as if its working and a price that suggest its working.
Its a baiting tactic to get people to buy the item. A kind of psychological tactic that makes a perosn think that since the is similar priced to a new item, it must be working especially when the decription says it is but the labeling says its used and junk and for parts..
When the buyer gets the item and realizes they been scammed, the buyer will open a dispute and the seller will do 2 things to avoid a refund
: says the item is labeled as junk, not working and is not part of the ebay return guarantee
or
: sellert accepts return, says buyer send back a box of rocks.
You now know of 2 loopholes that sellers are using to NOT honor refunds..
Go see for yourself..
Do a search on a stereo for your car or speakers for your house.
You will see MANY items priced like they are new yet are labeled as junk, not working.. But then they have words in the decription that suggest its a great item, working.
I have been abused in this manner..
Im now experiencing ebay fatigue
tobaccocardyahoo
·9 months agoThere is nothing wrong with undergrading an item.
If it says "not working for parts" anyone who buys it has no reason to complain that is does not work. Only a fool or a knave or a repairman would make such a purchase.
msha3839
·9 months agoTo someone it’s a junk but to others it’s a gold..as long as clearly indicated as not working item..
house*of*paws
·9 months agoHi @berry-cinex
Before buying from ANY listing … check the link (in the listing) to eBay’s Money Back Guarantee, which will tell you exactly what your right of return is for that item.
Once you understand the conditions of eBay’s MBG for that item … you can ignore any imaginary loopholes that a seller may have tried to put in the listing … assuming you want to buy from a game-playing seller.
BTW, in my experience, most sellers honestly try to describe their items in a way to avoid returns. The sellers you describe are rare and fairly easy to spot.
simba6
·9 months agoBuyers must take extra care when buying in venues like this. If you want new, buy only new. Anything else it a turkey shoot as to what you will receive. That said, there are many items sold here you just can't find any place else. So If you need parts or are willing to restore you can find what you want.
Prices have been going up but, you can still find good buys. Just takes a lot more searching.
eburtonlab
·9 months agoAny item that is "not as described" is still subject to eBay's money back guarantee, even if it is listed as "for parts or not working".
Listing as "for parts or not working" will not let a seller get out of a refund if the buyer pursues a "not as described" case, no matter the seller's return policy.
ccomic
·9 months agoThe one I see abused the most often is “new open boxâ€, which to me simply means “used†at best, and at worst implies the product failed so early or so completely that the original buyer still had all the packaging. The worst is “new open box, untestedâ€, which to me means “run awayâ€.
simba6
·9 months agoUntested has always been, I tried it and it did not work.
msha3839
·9 months agoMany people hold to original packaging due to many reasons and not necessarily the one that you indicated…something that used occasionally and easily stored in original packaging…
kibble-net
·9 months agoThis take is a bunch of horse doo doo.
I have sold items "as is, for parts" and still had buyers return them because.... wait for it....
...the item was defective.
gator08041971
·9 months ago@berry-cinex
First off, not all sellers may be trying this "tactic" with their listings. There are several caveats:
Buyer has 3 days within which to file for a return if there is a situation where the item was not as listed.
If it was listed as not working and for parts, and the item doesn't work and might only be good for parts and repair, then they listed it correctly assuming they also mentioned this in the title and other descriptions about the item.
On the other hand, if they blatantly listed it in the description and the condition as fully working and in good condition despite using the not working/parts only listing option, then the seller should be reported and the item returned right away. I would also avoid ANY listing that uses that practice. I myself haven't seen this with listings I have encountered, but I know that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
There is a chance that sellers are using this to get around the 30 day return window that is mandatory for most items. If a seller is caught doing this, they can be shut down by eBay for fraudulent listing practices.
bonanza125
·9 months agoIf the item is listed "not working for parts" then that is what it is being sold as. Buyers are responsible for reading the ad and researching other items like it. Buyers also have to know that there is a 3 day return on "not working for parts." A seller can ask whatever they want for an item. So yes they can sell an item not working for a price which is working. If a buyer is willing to pay the price then they will then again if not then the item doesn't sell. There is no scam behind it. You just need to read the ads.
msha3839
·9 months agoNot working for parts could be also problematic…buyer may expect to use certain parts that damaged as well..safest way for sellers is to list only as “ not working “â€..
bonanza125
·9 months ago@msha3839
If an item is not working then it must be in the "not working for parts" condition. Damage which doesn't allow the item to work then it is considered "not working for parts." If a seller lists an item which is not working in a "used" condition and states "not working" then the seller is at risk for "item not described" because all used items must work.
msha3839
·9 months agoI guess no other option but new or used..would be helpful if “ parts only†option was available…