FOR A SIGNED COMIC BOOK
PURCHASED A SIGNED BOOK FANTASTIC FOUR #268, signatures were S. Lee, B. budinsky & Elliot Brown, sent the to CGC just word the the signatures were not real, contacted seller, he said no refunds and CGC was cheating me, On his store site he has numerous books signed by Stan Lee and others, be careful I had a COA and did not mean a thing
6 comments
mudshark61369
·11 months ago@galaxyofcomix ,
Certified Collectibles Group (CGC) is not as reliable as PSA/DNA... They have partnered with James Spence Authentictors (JSA) for signature verification, but that service has a slower turn around time and costs more to use.
" I had a COA and did not mean a thing"
Was an image of the COA shown on the listing? If not then you shouldn't have trusted the seller. Fake COAs are a dime a dozen on ebay. Many of them are so badly done that any one who knows what a reputable COA should have in it, can tell at a glance whether or not it s real.
All of the reputable Authentication sites have a searchable data base you can run their certification number through, if a COA has one which it should.
ryry-jj
·11 months agoUnfortunately I come from the standpoint that all autographs are fake unless I see the person sign it and can document that signature. COA mean nothing to me. Even a witness to a signature better have it documented for me to believe it. Auto pen signatures are so good now they have even fooled the people they are faking
tobaccocardyahoo
·11 months agoAuthenticators make mistakes. How often, I don't know but I when I know the pedigree of an item, and know that there was no economic motive to counterfeit it at the time I bought it, it is likely to be an error.
Does Ebay recognize CGC?
Was the Ebay MBG invoked within 30 days of your receipt?
I am not a fan of 3rd party authentication. Probably because a plastic slab has no soul. Or maybe I believe a collector should be his own expert, and if he isn't he should not be buying whatever he collects.
3rd party grading started with coins, and spread when coin collecting went down the tubes as a hobby. Hard to say whether the coins being sold, and sports cards, comic etc too, had a bigger problem with fakes before or after the 3P grading became common.
And get off my lawn.
tinsoldierunderground
·11 months ago"Or maybe I believe a collector should be his own expert, and if he isn't he should not be buying whatever he collects." - Well told! Amen!
kathiec
·11 months ago@galaxyofcomix
You should click the dropdown arrow in the upper right of your post and ask a moderator to remove the seller's name. 'Naming and shaming' is against forum rules, and if reported by someone else will result in a forum violation.
Beyond that I would just throw out that the seller in question has 100% feedback, with more than 4000 comments. Of those 4000+ only two mention signatures that weren't authenticated as genuine, and the response to one of those indicated the seller witnessed the people signing.
But if it's been less than 30 days since you received the item you can open an item not as described return through eBay's Money Back Guarantee.
le-5262
·11 months agoStories like this are making me nervous about letting things I know are real
out of my hands to get authenticated.