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Facebook Marketpce RV purchase fraud/scam
My husband and I had retired and found a RV for sale for $800 advertised on Facebook Marketpce and when we contacted the seller she informed us that we would need to purchase eBay gift cards because it would protect buyer and seller. All my life I always did my due diligence to check thinks out very throughly and it appears I checked things out really well because I am 64 and my husband is 72 and thank goodness we're never scammed. We both had a very bad feeling about the transaction but we wanted to purchase the RV more than us using our common sense and we knew it was to good to be true. Before in this fraudulent transaction I never doubted that we were incapable of being scammed. We have always went above and beyond to protect our funds. And yes, it was to good to be true. The only 2 things I would bet on is I was a dummy and he was dumber. The very minute we knew we had been scammed I immediately began making attempts to try and hopefully retrieving some of our retirement monies back, which started with our bank of 40 years Bank of America and our first no I'm sorry grandma and grandpa y'all should have known better. Just because you two have worked hard all your life you surely don't expect the criminals to do the right thing. I was in tears. Next on to Facebook/Marketplace fraud department only to be told that it was ebay's policy to pay us back. I thought I was gaining some ground until eBay fraud department tells me that it should be Facebook/Marketplace to refund our money. Then the back and forth back and forth for days. Finally I did get what I was told was a supervisor and ma'am here at eBay we don't take money from senior citizens and that all I need to do was amake a police report and send them any and all documents regarding the sell and our money would be refunded. I had no problem believing that money would be refunded back to us. But I'm the dummy that believed we were getting a super deal on an RV. We waited enough time and then phoned eBay back and it was a different supervisor and said that we needed to also report all documents to the FBI and we did. The sellers name was Sylvia Agnew whom said she was in the military and about to be deployed abroad and needed two old people to scam. I reported to FBI, the Department of Justice, and even the military base where Ms. Agnew was stationed when she posted ad. We have yet to receive a dime from refund and for a long while after the same RV was still being posted. after me reported to Facebook/Marketplace countless times. I sang as loud as I could to all that would listen to hopefully stop another poor hard working person to find themselves in my nightmare from trusting two probably billionaire companies and owner. We are the first to admit we should not have fallen victim to the scam but we did. I have made it my life's mission to get our money back I am sending a letter to Mark Zuckerberg and to find out who the other millionaires name is with eBay. The congressional oversight committee was verbally bashing the FBI and other organizations for lying just the other day that were no help to me so letters will be sent to them also. I knew w we made a huge mistake in judgement but compared to what we lost compared to the monies the two huge companies is pennies. $800 is a lot of money to us. We are famers, own cattle and hard work. We wear blue jeans, cowboy boots and live by the golden rule. Do unto others like you want them to do unto you. We stretch out our hand to those that need lelp. We're not uneducated we focus on God, Family and the American Way. Just old fashioned common courtesy and I learned a expensive lsson. And can proudly say we may not be Harvard educated but we are proud to say our children were raised with integrity loyalty morals, values and hard work. Just remember these important things. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is. Google names, phone numbers and all pertinent information and know that some people are not trustworthy. Go Bless the USA
kh-shakhib
·1 year agoHi everyone,
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Thank you for understanding.
angsun_65
·1 year agoI was almost taking in, I figured it was too good to be true. There was another add with similar words being military and leaving the country. Wouldn't let me see it OR come pick it up. It was amycrow202@gmail.com. Ft. Belvoir, va. Market. Place RV $800
wastingtime101
·1 year agoAny vehicle advertised on another marketplace that says eBay will contact you to handle the sale is a scam; eBay does not warehouse or ship vehicles. eBay transactions take place on eBay, not off site and not through email.
There is no vehicle (just stolen photos) and the scammer is likely overseas. If you send them money or gift card codes there will be no way to retrieve those funds. When the price looks too good to be true, it usually is.
Here's eBay's page about recognizing and avoiding vehicle scams: https://pages.motors.ebay.com/buy/security/
Report the listing to the venue where you found the fraudulent ad using these links: Facebook Marketplace | Craigslist | OfferUp | Nextdoor
If you received any emails that pretend to be from eBay Motors, forward them to spoof@ebay.com
You can report the scammer to the email provider they used such as Google (Gmail), Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.
Facebook pages about Marketplace safety: Recognizing Scams | Avoiding Scams
nobody*s_perfect
·3 years agoIf you still believe that there is a real human named Ms. Agnew at that base, who ran the ad, then you really don't understand what happened. Everything in the ad is fake - the information about the vehicle, the seller's ID, her story, absolutely everything was completely made up, except where to send the money/gift card info.
You fell for a common scam and will not get your money back.
lazarustradingco
·3 years agoUgh. This so sad and infuriating. Really sorry that you lost your money to scammer scumbags. This eBay gift card scam has been going on for years and continues to fool a lot of people. It is so hard to stop them because they typically operate from overseas and pop up just about anywhere online. There is also no recourse for victims like yourselves because money is willingly handed over, circumventing any security that banks have in place like passwords and PINs. Hopefully, your tale serves as a warning and more people are aware and become more careful and less gullible.
1786davycrockett
·3 years agoFacebook Marketplace has NOTHING to do with eBay. They are two entirely separate selling platforms.
If you see a great deal at Walmart, does someone at Walmart tell you to go to Target for the same deal?!?
And consider this: if someone is selling an RV (or a car, a truck, a boat, a trailer, etc, etc, etc) for only $800.00, why wouldn't they just sell it locally for a fast sale, rather than a sale on Facebook Marketplace to another state, maybe on the other side of the country, where the "seller" would need to pay high shipping fees?
There is no "fraud control administrator" at either Facebook Marketplace or eBay who examines each and every ad that is advertised on either site, since there are MILLIONS of individual items posted for sale, and MORE being created each day. And the sellers on those sites have NO connection with either Facebook Marketplace or eBay -- they are individuals or corporate businesses which PAY eBay and Facebook for the opportunity to sell on those sites -- and neither eBay nor Facebook have the means to investigate the possible fraudulent backgrounds of each of the millions of sellers on their sites.
There are crooks everywhere, just looking for money to steal from unwary individuals. Unfortunately, you fell for their lies, and there is no recourse available.
Your money is gone, and you will not be refunded. If a deal is too good to be believed, then don't believe it.
soh.maryl
·3 years agoYou seem like a pretty smart person, so it's hard to understand why you thought eBay had anything at all to do with this.
You found an item listed on Facebook Marketplace (not on eBay).
You were told the sale would go through eBay for your protection.
You bought eBay gift cards to pay for this vehicle. eBay gift cards can only be used to buy and pay for items actually listed for sale on eBay.
You were told the vehicle would be delivered to you for a trial period of 7-10 days at the seller's expense.
All you had to do was give this person those card numbers, but the seller would not redeem them until he was sure you were satisfied.
Am sorry to tell you this also, but the CS rep you talked to was lying, either deliberately or really thought eBay would refund you. There is no Ms. Agnew and no RV.
So sorry this happened to you, but have to tell you this: Feel free to do whatever you want, but you are not going to be refunded. That person has already used the cards. This is a fairly common scam and has been going on forever on Facebook Marketplace, Craig's List and other sites.
Unavailable member
·3 years agoAs a seller, you should know that eBay won’t back up a buyer if a sale was made outside of eBay. Same with FBM. Neither company is at fault.
an-57470
·3 years agoPersonally I believe Facebook, eBay, and Amazon fall short in managing scams and monitoring. Emails outside of their network boundaries is a major window for communication scams. One should stay with in their monitored message platforms. I have been with Ebay as a buyer and seller for 21 years. I have also been with Amazon about the same time frame. The time frame of 2 decades and facebook as a member, I have not engaged in their buying and selling or how it works. . Your message and warnings are welcomed, in a market of online platforms that need checks and balances. The other week I gained my first negative as a eBay seller . As the saying goes "It is the putting right that counts", and as the seller I issued a refund.. Primarily it is a chance of throwing the dice, if you are dealing with new sellers without a good record. I do not like to see a 'negative' on my account , but we all make genuine mistakes. In your case I have little answers other than to be factual and concise in the written words to the agencies, to your replies to seek refund. List your points clearly and repeat send your letters of inquiry, as it may eventually be addressed, just to be off the agencies books, such as eBay and facebook, good luck.