Different Take On Fake Tracking Scam?
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Someone I know filed an INR after their package was not delivered by the last estimated delivery date. That tracking number has zero movement other than showing that the label had been purchased.
The seller responded to the INR by uploading a different tracking number, one that shows it was delivered to their same zip code. They do not have their package.
This seems to be different take on the fake tracking scam to me, as I've not read a case here where the seller uploads a different tracking number that shows delivery to the INR.
At this point they will lose the INR, so I am going to tell them the CC company is the next step. If anyone has any other ideas, let me know.
christworks
OP4 months agoUpdate: eBay closed out the case in the seller's favor on Thursday. My friend opened a dispute with her credit card company. Tonight the seller left a postive feedback rating with negative comments, so now they will need to have eBay call them so they can get it removed. I have a few words to pick from regarding how I would describe this seller, but I can't say them here.
ccomic
·4 months agoI would not have worded it that strongly, but I have wondered the same thing.
From what I can tell, eBay just wants to be the bank that that is it. To the greatest extent possible they push all problems onto the buyers and sellers and then just take a share of all money that changes hands, including shipping and including sales tax.
In my mind, if they are just a bank then, should they not be bound by the same consumer protection laws that banks are bound to?
mr._bob
·4 months agoNot a different take. Seller F'ed up. Same happened to me early this month. Seller used a tracking number that had Sig Conf... showed it wasn't shipped to me via Sig conf name being available online.
Sent that to eBay. They just got a new tracking number off dark web and eBay went Braindead and ignored the mountains of evidence I provided AND that the seller literally got caught pulling a fake tracking scam ON THE SAME ORDER and closed the case in the seller favor.
Literally don't bother with eBay in any fake tracking case. Bypass them and go RIGHT to the credit card.
ryry-jj
·4 months agoCant the buyer still open an INAD case after a INR then shows as received?
christworks
OP4 months agoShe can yes, but I think she needs to get a letter from the post office first.
Her mother had a medical emergency and suddenly passed away last week. She had filed the INR just prior to that, and is currently away from her town so she cannot go to her local post office at the moment. She has time and she will be back home before her time is up. Right now the case is still open. She says there is a message on it from eBay stating that they will decide how to rule or she could close it out on her own. I told her to wait to eBay to decide.
mr._bob
·4 months agoYes don't close it yourself. eBay will use that to tell the credit card company you confirmed delivery.
They are crooks.
Personally, I wouldn't wait for eBay to rule. They will side with the seller.
Just start the process with the credit card now. Once eBay is alerted to this, they will close the case and say its your fault for starting a chargeback... it's not... they were never going to honor the MBG anyway. They are stalling.
Be sure to explain to them that it was a fake tracking number scam and the tracking number is for a package that was not sent to your address. Get a statement to this effect from the shipper if possible (It's not easy with fedex, but they'll eventually do it, USPS is a lot easier).
And CALL BACK to confirm it was filed correctly. My credit card initially put it in as item not received with no additional info after I explained in detail to them that it needed to be put in as fake tracking number. After 2 callbacks I got confirmation it was now explaining that the tracking number was not for a package delivered to me. After a third they explained the process for me to submit my documentation proving as such.
No one makes this easy, because eBay is protecting the scammers, so they ARE getting away with your money. eBay facilitates this. Credit card is gonna try to make eBay eat refund and eBay is gonna try to make you eat the loss. And the Shipper is there saying paraphrased: "We are happy to confirm to eBay that this scam is occurring. We have a process to do so. We don't have a process for individuals to do the same". eBay is pretending their hands are tied and they have no way to know if tracking is legit or not. THEY ARE LYING. I have had this confirmed by REPEATEDLY by shippers.
eBay knows this and knows how hard it is for YOU to get the proof (it's automated for them by the shipper, they just have to give the shipper your address and the tracking number and state it's to confirm shipment to a buyer address, bam Instant proof if it's actually real tracking or not). They don't do so because THEY WANT YOU TO GET SCAMMED. They make money when you give up and get scammed. They make money if your bank eats the cost of your refund.
If they actually clamp down on the scammers, a HUGE portion of eBay's profits disappears.
12345jamesstamps
·4 months agoWe assume the seller and buyer have different zip codes?
Seems like eBay would see that and work in buyer's favor.
Or if zip code of buyer is the same as the second updated zip code of seller?...online dispute with the credit or debit card of course.