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I dont know if this is really new but i do know what its effects can be to a seller or even the board or the financial institutions or even the shippers. Its a scam practice . I have seen it here on ebay and been affected by it too elsewhere. It can be practiced quite easily and it works too. How its done....seller give what appears a great item at a great price. Because these folks have no regard for the public or businesses they hack websites for pictures and adds modify them to suite their wants at times. You make your deal of the lifetime pay your money thu what ever financial institution you need to and wait for the goods...and wait...and wait..because nothing but an empty envelope or a trinket of some sort comes to your door that you wonder what is this? I never ordered this junk or what's with this empty envelope. Well what's with it is a delivery receipt from the delivery platform that indicates your ordered item was delivered. NOT. But when you go back to the sellers platform or the finance house they will state for you that you got your item and the seller has a delivery receipt for that(empty envelope or trinket). It has happened to me here at ebay twice now and just recently at Pay Pal. The ebay items were low dollar items and not worth the fight . But the Pay Pal items are. I am working with the USPS fraud division to end at least this one. There are more out there and here I suspect too. Whats this all mean ? People start loosing trust in good products , good business , good sellers , finance institutions and delivery services..for what ? computer hacks that are only interested in your cash. ebay has worked hard on its trusted reputation to have this be its downfall , but , not just here but across the entire internet. It took years and lots of hard work to get a reliable product base at your finger tips and now a handful of hacks may in short order do away with it. Scream at everyone, credit cards , finance houses , shippers , even legislators to protect what has taken so long to build.
12345jamesstamps
·2 years agoI usually check feedback of a seller first and location of where item is coming from. Haven't had a situation yet such as you describe.
wudmith
OP2 years agoI have had a few,like three at ebay. The rest were from ordered elsewhere online. But the idea and fact is buyers loose trust in sellers and this make no difference where you buy or the rating method used.
bonjourami
·2 years agoWhen you file an item not as described case, the sellers address will be on the return label that Ebay provides.If you receive an empty envelope or a trinket, instead of your item, that is what you will return to the seller.
nobody*s_perfect
·2 years agoAs the other replies have indicated, eBay has an effective system in place for dealing with this sort of scam. Just file a claim for item "Not as described." Go through the process, and you will get a full refund, which will come out of the seller's pocket. Here's a link to eBay's buyer protection policy, which they call the "Money Back Guarantee":
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy?id=4210
wudmith
OP2 years agoThus would work perfectly if you knew you got something from someone. The con is you have no clue what so ever of what or who you got this from. So how do you know your scamed? You file a claim and it's denied because you got something you didn't know you got, like the empty envelope or a trinket you don't remember ordering( you didn't order it) but the sender got a delivery reciept.
maxine*j
·2 years agoIn your scenario, the conmen are counting on two things:
1. Buyers believing they can get something for almost nothing, what you call "your deal of a lifetime." Cons live by the truth in the old adage that you can't cheat an honest man. An honest person knows that something is fishy if he's offered a $300 item for $50.
2. Buyers on eBay not understanding the Money Back Guarantee, so the buyers open Item Not Received Cases, instead of Item Not As Described Cases. Buyers lose INRs pretty much automatically, because the seller can prove delivery. Buyers win INADs pretty much automatically, because eBay sides with buyers in the disputes as a matter of course.
It's a shame that it is so, but the reality is that people must protect themselves by vetting their sellers, expecting no free lunches, and using the MBG correctly.
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wudmith
OP2 years agoSo it looks like your proponenting paying more than an item should cost ? Like maybe the $2000 pair of women's undies. Or paying a more than reasonable price for something you find out after having it for a while and going to use it and finding out it isn't what it was supposed to be just because the seller sports a rather good feedback level . Not! If you put a price on something good bad or otherwise you should be responsible for delivering the item at the price you offered it at.
dryophelia
·2 years ago@wudmith
When a package arrives without the item purchased, that is a claim for ‘not as described’.
It sounds like you claimed ‘item not received’. The seller was able to prove delivery, so your claim was denied.
Have you tried to open a case for not as described? There is a chance you can still do that, as long as it is not too late.
This bait and switch is not uncommon. An item is ordered and the buyer gets a thank you note, with tracking to prove deliver, instead. The seller has delivered something to your address and completed his obligation.
This seems to be more common, but not limited to, international sellers.
These sellers rely on a buyers lack of understanding of the money back guarantee.
wudmith
OP2 years agoThus is all well and good BUT the con's package will contain little or no information on who is shipping the envelope or item. This is even common among many good sellers. You will have no idea what is contained in a lot of legitimate shipments even from otherwise good sellers till they are opened and you check who you bought the item from. What I am hearing from delivery pros, if there is no return address with shippers info on any package return to sender. At that point it is back on whom ever sent it and you have no responsibility for the package.