A quick Google search reveals that Comfort Print is a trademarked name for a specific typeface used specifically for bibles. According to the website: "Thomas Nelson and Zondervan Bibles have teamed up with the world’s foremost typeface foundry to create exclusive Comfort Print Bible fonts. These Comfort Print Bibles are easy to read at any size." So I see nothing misleading about the listing. The only thing the seller should do is include the trademark symbol after the term Comfort Print. At a certain point you can't explain everything a buyer might conceivably misunderstand without a description that's so lengthy no one will read it.
And I agree, a feedback revision is definitely in order, although I would hope the seller could get eBay to remove the feedback because it's about the product rather than the seller.
Are you sure it said "Comfort View"? Thomas Nelson Publishers prints Bibles of various versions (NKJV, KJV, NET, NIV, NASB) in typefaces and fonts which are trademarked as "Comfort Print" and which are designed for clarity and ease in reading, regardless of the size of the type.
In any event, you made an assumption that the Bible was in large print. It was not. It's a shame that you gave the seller a negative, because the seller is perfectly blameless.
I agree, it's terribly unfair to give the seller a neg for something which not only was not their fault, but which was based on the buyer's erroneous interpretation of the "comfort" term. IMHO the buyer should apologize to the seller and ask them to send a feedback revision request.
But it might also behoove the seller to clarify their listing descriptions regarding the term "Comfort print" now that they have learned that it can be misinterpreted. The listing description says, "This edition is published in large NKJV Comfort Print type," which the buyer misunderstood. But even so, they could have asked for a return and refund rather than leaving a neg.
I took a closer look at that listing, which also says, "Easy-to-read 8.5-point NKJV Comfort Print".
A reader who is familiar with printing and design terms would realize that 8.5-point type is actually pretty small even if the font is designed for legibility. Last time I worked in an office, our standard for reports was 12 point; the term "large" is usually reserved for 16- to 18-point type. But the seller should not expect that the typical buyer would know any of that.
OK. Thanks. For some reason, I thought the neg was for scgoodwill10, a different Goodwill store than that one. Sheesh.
Anyhow, it would help if sellers would just invest a buck in a point guide and give the actual point size if they're going to refer to the print size. Large could be 12 point compared to 10, to some people. Or it could be 14 to 16 point, which is sometimes called "enlarged print." To be considered "large print," it must be 16 to 18 points, usually the latter. "Giant print" is anything larger than 18 pt.
Bibles set in Comfort Print are set in all point sizes, from 10 point up.
OK. Thanks. For some reason, I thought the neg was for scgoodwill10, a different Goodwill store than that one. Sheesh.
Anyhow, it would help if sellers would just invest a buck in a point guide and give the actual point size if they're going to refer to the print size. Large could be 12 point compared to 10, to some people. Or it could be 14 to 16 point, which is sometimes called "enlarged print."
To be considered "large print," it must be 16 to 18 points, usually the latter. "Giant print" is anything larger than 18 pt.
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Except in this case Comfort Print isn't a point size. It's a proper name for a special typeface.
OK. Thanks. For some reason, I thought the neg was for scgoodwill10, a different Goodwill store than that one. Sheesh.
Anyhow, it would help if sellers would just invest a buck in a point guide and give the actual point size if they're going to refer to the print size. Large could be 12 point compared to 10, to some people. Or it could be 14 to 16 point, which is sometimes called "enlarged print."
To be considered "large print," it must be 16 to 18 points, usually the latter. "Giant print" is anything larger than 18 pt.
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Except in this case Comfort Print isn't a point size. It's a proper name for a special typeface.
Yes. I had already pointed that out way earlier in this thread, when I posted:
"Thomas Nelson Publishers prints Bibles of various versions (NKJV, KJV, NET, NIV, NASB) in typefaces and fonts which are trademarked as "Comfort Print" and which are designed for clarity and ease in reading, regardless of the size of the type.
"In any event, you made an assumption that the Bible was in large print. It was not. It's a shame that you gave the seller a negative, because the seller is perfectly blameless."
Comfort print does not make for easy reading when it is too small . I did not assume it was large print . It claimed it was for easy reading , to which it wasn't for me
Comfort print does not make for easy reading when it is too small . I did not assume it was large print . It claimed it was for easy reading , to which it wasn't for me
If you did not assume it was large print, why does your Original Post say: "Beware if you are older and need large print..."?
But no matter about any of that. Feedback is supposed to be about the transaction, not a review of the product and/or your understanding of the product's description.
Do the right thing, the Christian thing, and ask the seller for a feedback revision form.
Beware if you are older and need large print . Comfort print is very small . Not what you would think .
If you're on a phone or a tablet or a laptop with a touch screen @miclef_9 you can usually enlarge the screen by touching with 2 fingers, gradually spreading the 2 fingers apart.
Or if you're using a keyboard, try repeatedly pressing the Ctrl (control) key and the + (plus) keys at the same time. Pressing Ctrl and - (minus) would reduce the screen size back.
Never heard of them. If I have issues seeing small print. I utilize the zoom feature in my browser or get stronger reading glasses. Yag laser surgery helps too since my cataract surgery. I can see clearly now, the clouds are gone.
kathiec
·2 years agoA quick Google search reveals that Comfort Print is a trademarked name for a specific typeface used specifically for bibles. According to the website: "Thomas Nelson and Zondervan Bibles have teamed up with the world’s foremost typeface foundry to create exclusive Comfort Print Bible fonts. These Comfort Print Bibles are easy to read at any size." So I see nothing misleading about the listing. The only thing the seller should do is include the trademark symbol after the term Comfort Print. At a certain point you can't explain everything a buyer might conceivably misunderstand without a description that's so lengthy no one will read it.
And I agree, a feedback revision is definitely in order, although I would hope the seller could get eBay to remove the feedback because it's about the product rather than the seller.
maxine*j
·2 years agoOr this one, also Comfort Print:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126165830169?epid=20057249361&hash=item1d6011ca19:g:Y3gAAOSwzV1lSQ1z&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwEV%2B3GTmD0%2F%2FOOfWUw3DgyppJqNwTODMnezlu6hiEZOZMQPjn6NZNviwIoNmI%2F4TC%2BxEJTrtyEGheVX8h1DvVmP7YxsbzWt66e29OguLM%2F7v88oma5nKFeOgjqVmU5fYoXSVfs3%2FtVpU1N5CGBxEET0247WhZZQU7T%2FOaZWDL5wvCSSsgP9Evj0nfW%2FCectIZYY6TcUlXvgtTOox798Mq0Jtpoe2aane1tIQSdd9v982PM5hOmZ%2F69vIZ27%2BRsP4XQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR46b89j6Yg
or this one, also Comfort Print:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126160553209?epid=14038716183&hash=item1d5fc144f9:g:1McAAOSwfM9lRki6&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwMTu7M1FEO5W33Ao%2Bym8NZJNjFbdXIKFPbOHkEVIJh2iLnlcyG8PkIUMVIr3EKyCJHASlJqZect75JG3agkqSFIXzz4cNcgJpDn8jqE7WBc8wfkna5Ql6J%2BMTcILnF1crKDTkVrwtpGCeRba5TrKlPf4%2BCWjc7dYqGdf2GhFx2lUgZ0LpaqNS2CID7%2B%2FDNv6lL8sAfrY66wFv%2F1NmmpDOMxyeHe55WIMNQbsQY46m7qwvmWCAH3tyDfNvtKBhvmwIw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR46b89j6Yg
I'll stop now, but that seller you negged has sold many Comfort Print Bibles, and I believe you bought one of them.
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evry1nositswindy
·2 years agoYeah, but you left a negative for the seller over the printing. They didn't print the book. In my opinion, that is unfair.
redmodelt
·2 years agoOr you can hold the "Ctrl" button down and press the +, - or 0 to return to normal size. 🙂
miclef_9
OP2 years agoThis is a Bible, not a email or on the internet .
maxine*j
·2 years ago@miclef_9
Are you sure it said "Comfort View"? Thomas Nelson Publishers prints Bibles of various versions (NKJV, KJV, NET, NIV, NASB) in typefaces and fonts which are trademarked as "Comfort Print" and which are designed for clarity and ease in reading, regardless of the size of the type.
In any event, you made an assumption that the Bible was in large print. It was not. It's a shame that you gave the seller a negative, because the seller is perfectly blameless.
Was it this Bible, which says Comfort Print:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335097254121?epid=14038430296&hash=item4e055a50e9:g:v9AAAOSwotVlQRu4&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwJpz27MGRV4CVLQ3LctpbkKDJTTnHwvmGl57biz1o%2Fvv1TlhTjRCyjrmCJwIw7vyDPtGQ%2BJGKVKbabLHzmAld4YvjS7DVXgXrPoOxxLENamxM3bNZNbJ2Z8gim8IqyHSpND8non4t6OT29u452TCFzdrQ%2FCa5e6yxTp1oGHqGGjOLXA9ggMoDw9dj6FLukV3STex%2BH8M7h4s6YgPYWfHvcCi5LemCJqICOk0KsD7%2BWkTMXqZfqQxPZIJadmbDZpx4g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR46b89j6Yg
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nobody*s_perfect
·2 years agoIf you go to the seller's feedback history, you'll see that it was this listing, which also says "comfort print":
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175860148081?_trksid=p2349526.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
I agree, it's terribly unfair to give the seller a neg for something which not only was not their fault, but which was based on the buyer's erroneous interpretation of the "comfort" term. IMHO the buyer should apologize to the seller and ask them to send a feedback revision request.
But it might also behoove the seller to clarify their listing descriptions regarding the term "Comfort print" now that they have learned that it can be misinterpreted. The listing description says, "This edition is published in large NKJV Comfort Print type," which the buyer misunderstood. But even so, they could have asked for a return and refund rather than leaving a neg.
nobody*s_perfect
·2 years agoI took a closer look at that listing, which also says, "Easy-to-read 8.5-point NKJV Comfort Print".
A reader who is familiar with printing and design terms would realize that 8.5-point type is actually pretty small even if the font is designed for legibility. Last time I worked in an office, our standard for reports was 12 point; the term "large" is usually reserved for 16- to 18-point type. But the seller should not expect that the typical buyer would know any of that.
maxine*j
·2 years agoOK. Thanks. For some reason, I thought the neg was for scgoodwill10, a different Goodwill store than that one. Sheesh.
Anyhow, it would help if sellers would just invest a buck in a point guide and give the actual point size if they're going to refer to the print size. Large could be 12 point compared to 10, to some people. Or it could be 14 to 16 point, which is sometimes called "enlarged print." To be considered "large print," it must be 16 to 18 points, usually the latter. "Giant print" is anything larger than 18 pt.
Bibles set in Comfort Print are set in all point sizes, from 10 point up.
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kathiec
·2 years agoExcept in this case Comfort Print isn't a point size. It's a proper name for a special typeface.
maxine*j
·2 years agoYes. I had already pointed that out way earlier in this thread, when I posted:
"Thomas Nelson Publishers prints Bibles of various versions (NKJV, KJV, NET, NIV, NASB) in typefaces and fonts which are trademarked as "Comfort Print" and which are designed for clarity and ease in reading, regardless of the size of the type.
"In any event, you made an assumption that the Bible was in large print. It was not. It's a shame that you gave the seller a negative, because the seller is perfectly blameless."
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miclef_9
OP2 years agoComfort print does not make for easy reading when it is too small . I did not assume it was large print . It claimed it was for easy reading , to which it wasn't for me
maxine*j
·2 years agoIf you did not assume it was large print, why does your Original Post say: "Beware if you are older and need large print..."?
But no matter about any of that. Feedback is supposed to be about the transaction, not a review of the product and/or your understanding of the product's description.
Do the right thing, the Christian thing, and ask the seller for a feedback revision form.
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zgnisaer
·2 years agoIf you're on a phone or a tablet or a laptop with a touch screen @miclef_9 you can usually enlarge the screen by touching with 2 fingers, gradually spreading the 2 fingers apart.
Or if you're using a keyboard, try repeatedly pressing the Ctrl (control) key and the + (plus) keys at the same time. Pressing Ctrl and - (minus) would reduce the screen size back.
Never heard of them. If I have issues seeing small print. I utilize the zoom feature in my browser or get stronger reading glasses.
Yag laser surgery helps too since my cataract surgery. I can see clearly now, the clouds are gone.