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FAKE MERCHANDISE
I ordered some American Eagle Silver Coins from vendors on eBay. The vendors stated that these silver eagle coins were genuine when indeed they were fake, all of them. I'm warning all of you who are reading this, not to buy any coins or anything else you deem valuable from China or the Chinese. They are dishonorable people. I sent this message to eBay:
eBay is supposed to be a reputable company and yet you allow people to sell fake items. I had to request a refund on all of the so-called Silver Eagle U.S. Coins that several merchants (Chinese) were and are still selling on eBay. I happened to do my research to determine if these coins were genuine only to find they are ALL FAKE. I took these coins to 2 reputable Coin Dealers and both said they not only are FAKE but that other people are bringing in these coins from China. eBay as a reputable company I feel you should vet these vendors. Why should we have to go through the agony of finding out later the items we purchase are fake. What about the other people who have bought them and didn't check to see if they were real? What will you do? Will you contact them to let them know what I've learned? Is this fair? I'd like to hear from you and I definitely demand ALLL OF MY MONEY BACK. I'll never buy anything else from a Chinese person again!!! They are not to be trusted.
gosimus
Mentor1 year ago@tonus-wr7ot8dwm
< I'm warning all of you who are reading this, not to buy any coins or anything else you deem valuable from China or the Chinese >
Many of us are way ahead of you on that. But there are others who haven't learned yet, and I'm sure your heads-up will warn some of them and prevent their falling for the scam. I wish there was some way to put those counterfeiters in prison, but in China they're out of the reach of the Secret Service.
tonus-wr7ot8dwm
OP1 year agoSince eBay is aware of this, they should disallow any of those sellers from selling FAKE coins in the United States. They should take away their privilege to sell anything on eBay. That makes sense to me and I don’t know why it hasn’t happened. I’m having a hard time returning them because they won’t send me a free return shipping label. They send a bunch of jargon as though they are satisfying the agreement but it’s a lie. Chinese sellers, I’m sorry to say, cannot be trusted.
gosimus
Mentor1 year ago@tonus-wr7ot8dwm
< Chinese sellers, I’m sorry to say, cannot be trusted. >
I know one Chinese seller who has proven reliable, the one that I've bought brass bolts from and have given positive feedback three times. It's regrettable that the 99% of Chinese sellers who are untrustworthy spoil it for the rest of them.
eburtonlab
Mentor1 year agoCounterfeit items are not allowed to be listed on eBay at all. No one is authorized to sell counterfeit items. That fact alone does not stop some people from trying to sell them, however.
The problem is that unscrupulous or uninformed sellers can list genuine items and then deliver counterfeit items.
It is not always possible to look at a listing and know in advance exactly what, if anything, the seller intends to deliver. For one thing, a scammer can simply copy a listing from a genuine seller, using a genuine photo of a genuine item.
Except for a few specific categories of items that go through authentication, eBay never sees what the seller ships or the what the buyer receives, so there is nothing for eBay to check unless someone complains about what was received by invoking eBay's money back guarantee.
Sellers are responsible for the descriptions they provide, and buyers should not assume that eBay screens the listings in advance.
As long as counterfeits exist and there are folks trying to sell them, buyers will still have to be on the lookout for them, and avoid deals that are obviously too-good-to-be-true, whether they are being sold by accounts registered overseas or by domestic sellers wittingly or unwittingly buying counterfeits from overseas to sell here.
Buyers that doubt their ability to distinguish a genuine article from a counterfeit one should only consider purchasing from trustworthy sellers that have an established reputation for delivering exactly what was described, and should avoid deals that are too-good-to-be-true, or deals that are offered by inexperienced sellers that might disappear soon after the transaction is made, or else be prepared to get items authenticated by trusted sources within thirty days to be able to take advantage of eBay's money back guarantee.
Instead of reporting the listing, report the seller here:
https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/resolving-issues-sellers/report-issue-seller?id=4022
tonus-wr7ot8dwm
OP1 year agoIn my case, I asked the seller if these coins were genuine and they replied yes. Then I looked at their reviews and they were highly favorable, but I’m under the impression they lied about that as well. They said that their customers are 100% satisfied, apparently they lied about that too. So how are we to make that determination, about these people, until we actually receive our items? This was not a case where it was too good to be true because the price that they asked for these coins are pretty typical over the last couple of years regarding silver coins; the price of silver coins fluctuates. I honestly thought, since the Chinese people were going through so much, that they probably were selling their coins that they purchased from the United States. After all, if you have no money, you get rid of anything you can to make money. The Chinese people are known for investing and saving so I thought To myself “let’s help them out and buy our own coins back from them and then they can have some money for their livelihoodâ€. But again, everybody is not honest and I’ve learned my lesson. I will never buy anything from China again and I mean anything. now they’re goal is to dump as much fentanyl into our country to kill off as many Americans as they can. This is an atrocity
eburtonlab
Mentor1 year agoI asked the seller if these coins were genuine and they replied yes.
Do you really expect someone willing to sell a counterfeit coin to provide an honest answer to that question? And if the seller is gullible but honest, the seller may genuinely believe the coin is real and may not know how to tell the difference between a genuine and counterfeit coin.
Asking people if they are honest is pointless and counterproductive; it just annoys honest people and gives liars another opportunity to do what they do best: lie.
Asking coin sellers on eBay if they are selling genuine coins is asking to be blocked by honest sellers, and asking to be scammed by scammers.
So how are we to make that determination, about these people, until we actually receive our items?
By looking at the seller's history, to see how long the seller has been selling similar items and what kind of feedback the seller has been getting and how experienced the buyers appear to be, and to see if the seller's location shown on the feedback page matches the item location the seller claims to ship from. The more history the seller has selling similar items, the less likely the seller has been scamming all along, or would suddenly decide to start selling counterfeit items, or would be fooled into purchasing a counterfeit item to sell.
When you trust a seller, you also are implicitly trusting the seller's judgment about who the seller has purchased from. Choose your sellers with care; there are plenty to choose from. No need to take a chance on a new seller if you do not have to.
I honestly thought, since the Chinese people were going through so much, that they probably were selling their coins that they purchased from the United States. After all, if you have no money, you get rid of anything you can to make money.
"[G]et rid of anything you can" includes cheap counterfeits, which are often plentiful overseas, and are much easier to sell online than in person where they can be examined and tested before purchase.
It is not necessary to avoid buying from overseas in general or from China specifically; there are many good deals that can be obtained by doing business with people in other countries due to comparative advantage. China specializes in many kinds of electronic components, and China is a good source of some well-made inexpensive electronic items labeled as "Made in China" -- but also many not-so-well-made copies not labeled as "Made in China" as well.
If you buy an item from China, you should probably begin with the assumption that the item was made in China in a factory unless you have very good reason to believe otherwise.