05-02-2024 07:34 PM
How do you appeal a VeRO complaint? I don't see a way. My item is definitely authentic.
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05-02-2024 08:40 PM
@derekc1 wrote:How do you appeal a VeRO complaint? I don't see a way. My item is definitely authentic.
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) gives websites like eBay protection from legal liability for the actions of its users if eBay removes the alleged infringing content promptly after receiving a Notice of Claimed Infringement (NOCI).
So when eBay receives a VERO complaint, eBay takes listings down in order to protect themselves from liability that might arise from your listing.
eBay has absolutely no incentive to evaluate the merits of the NOCI, because if they get it wrong they lose their protection from legal liability. It is up to you and the IP owner who filed the NOCI to come to an agreement.
The DMCA does provide you with the ability to file a counter-notice to the NOCI, but by doing so you are essentially daring the IP owner to initiate legal proceedings against you. SO you had better be pretty sure of your "definitely legitimate" claim.
But even if you do file a NOCI and the IP owner declines to take legal action, that only gives eBay the option to restore your listing while preserving their liability shield. But it does require eBay to do that.
05-02-2024 07:39 PM
The issue is not only if it is authentic. It is also the owner does not want you selling it here on eBay. Was the reason given by eBay was the item was counterfeit? If the owner made the claim, there is not much you can really do.
05-02-2024 07:39 PM
Unless you are a manufacturer authorized reseller of the item with invoices from their authorized wholesale distributor, you are unlikely to see any reversal.
It is likely that the VeRo complaint was issued because you are not authorized and your product may be inauthentic.
Ebay is protecting Ebay from being a party to an IP infringement lawsuit based on your listing.
05-02-2024 07:43 PM
The email you received should tell you what you need to do.
05-02-2024 08:40 PM
@derekc1 wrote:How do you appeal a VeRO complaint? I don't see a way. My item is definitely authentic.
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) gives websites like eBay protection from legal liability for the actions of its users if eBay removes the alleged infringing content promptly after receiving a Notice of Claimed Infringement (NOCI).
So when eBay receives a VERO complaint, eBay takes listings down in order to protect themselves from liability that might arise from your listing.
eBay has absolutely no incentive to evaluate the merits of the NOCI, because if they get it wrong they lose their protection from legal liability. It is up to you and the IP owner who filed the NOCI to come to an agreement.
The DMCA does provide you with the ability to file a counter-notice to the NOCI, but by doing so you are essentially daring the IP owner to initiate legal proceedings against you. SO you had better be pretty sure of your "definitely legitimate" claim.
But even if you do file a NOCI and the IP owner declines to take legal action, that only gives eBay the option to restore your listing while preserving their liability shield. But it does require eBay to do that.
05-02-2024 08:53 PM
Swarovski and Velcro, for instance, are very diligent in controlling who can use their name. Even if it is legitimate in its use on said brand name item.
05-02-2024 08:55 PM
Hi, the policy regarding Vero can be found at the two links below. Essentially, the only way to reinstate your listing is to appeal to the right’s owner. They must contact eBay with approval to relist. Good luck!!
(PS—Even with approval, risk remains that a relist could get removed again by a bot, now that you will be under greater scrutiny going forward. You need to decide if relisting is worth the headache.)
https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/ebay-for-business/verified-rights-owner-program#m17-1-tb1
https://www.ebay.com/help/default/default/verified-rights-owner-vero-policy?id=4349
05-02-2024 08:58 PM
It's not and, but and/or.
Could be authentic but seller doesn't want it sold on ebay.
05-02-2024 10:58 PM
@derekc1 wrote:How do you appeal a VeRO complaint? I don't see a way. My item is definitely authentic.
You have to contact the company that issued the takedown order, this is specified in the message you received. If you can convince them to remove the infringement claim then eBay will reinstate the listing. If you can't then you are out of luck.
You can get more information here:
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/selling-policies/vero-policy?id=4349
05-03-2024 07:40 AM
05-03-2024 08:04 AM
That's actually not true. Some sellers get VeRO claims reversed, either by the claim holder, or by their failure to respond.
05-03-2024 08:26 AM - edited 05-03-2024 08:28 AM
@m60driver wrote:
@derekc1 wrote:How do you appeal a VeRO complaint?
You don't, resistance is futile. You are fighting the might of corporate America and you will always lose the battle. Just find another platform to sell your item and move on.
That's not true.
So, in all my VeRO experiences, I made sure I understood the reason for the violation, I corrected it, and relisted the product for sale.