04-13-2020 03:26 AM
04-13-2020 03:48 AM
Ebay will remove an auction listing of certain items if the bidding gets into the range of price gouging. We would have no idea what those "several" people you mention would do. What is the reason why you would ask this anyway?
04-13-2020 06:19 AM
Price gouging is when one charges an inflated price for an item because it's in short supply during a time of emergency or other issues.
Starting a bid at 99 cents is the complete opposite, an attempt to draw bidders into fighting over an item.
04-13-2020 07:10 AM
You are 100% wrong IMO. So what you are saying is you will continue to start auctions at 99 cents since you know that doing it now has nothing to do with gouging and taking advantage of people, correct ?
04-13-2020 07:15 AM
Because those several people have come to the boards thinking there is nothing wrong with taking advantage of people during this crisis. Since those think it is not unethical I would have to assume they are wiling to continue to do 99 cent auctions when the pandemic ends.
04-13-2020 07:49 AM
From the Wikipedia entry for "price gouging"
Price gouging occurs when a seller increases the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. Usually, this event occurs after a demand or supply shock. Common examples include price increases of basic necessities after natural disasters. In precise, legal usage, it is the name of a crime that applies in some jurisdictions of the United States during civil emergencies. In less precise usage, it can refer either to prices obtained by practices inconsistent with a competitive free market or to windfall profits. Price gouging may be considered exploitative and unethical.
The term is similar to profiteering but can be distinguished by being short-term and localized and by being restricted to essentials such as food, clothing, shelter, medicine and equipment needed to preserve life and property. In jurisdictions where there is no such crime, the term may still be used to pressure firms to refrain from such behavior.
The term is not in widespread use in mainstream economic theory, but it is sometimes used to refer to practices of a coercive monopoly that raises prices above the market rate that would otherwise prevail in a competitive environment.[1] Alternatively, it may refer to suppliers' benefiting to excess from a short-term change in the demand curve.
Starting an auction at a low price is the very opposite of price gouging. The item only sells for what someone is willing to pay. If only one person bids it sells for 99 cents.
Now if they start say a $20 item for 99 cents and $25 shipping, that could be construed as gouging. Or if the 99 cent item is only worth 10 cents, I suppose that could be gouging, although I don't know where you're going with it.
04-13-2020 08:02 AM
@coolections wrote:Because those several people have come to the boards thinking there is nothing wrong with taking advantage of people during this crisis. Since those think it is not unethical I would have to assume they are wiling to continue to do 99 cent auctions when the pandemic ends.
I have often heard it stated the worse a deal happens to be for the buyer the better it is for the seller, likely most of those .99 cent auctions wil disappear when the pandemic ends.
04-13-2020 08:13 AM - edited 04-13-2020 08:15 AM
Listing essential items at 0.99 starting bid during a world crisis is intended price gouging.
A seller listed face masks on a one day auction, starting bid 0.99, with free shipping, USPS priority, and 10% of the selling price donated to the relief fund. And there is fees to pay.
So, do you think the seller only expected to get one bid?
04-14-2020 11:43 PM
04-15-2020 01:38 AM
@postingid7659 wrote:Starting an auction at a low price is the very opposite of price gouging. The item only sells for what someone is willing to pay. If only one person bids it sells for 99 cents.
Now if they start say a $20 item for 99 cents and $25 shipping, that could be construed as gouging. Or if the 99 cent item is only worth 10 cents, I suppose that could be gouging, although I don't know where you're going with it.
Texas' Attorney General doesn't agree with you:
They went after the guy, seized his entire stock, then found out they were moldy and a few other issues if you track the entire story.
04-15-2020 02:27 AM
04-15-2020 03:50 AM
If people are foolish enough to spend more than an item is worth, that's their problem. As long as they're happy with the amount they spent, the price should be no one else's business. No one is being forced to buy the items at those prices, they make a choice to do so. That's how an auction works, and plenty of people make emotional choices to spend much more than an item is worth, every day, not just on eBay but I've seen it at live auctions, heck I've done it a time or two myself just to make a point.
The risk you run selling these type of items to people foolish enough to pay high prices is they will: 1 - not pay at all; 2 - pay but want a refund or try to return the item; or 3 - do a chargeback in a month or two when all this nonsense has passed. I avoid selling items in categories where there's a high potential of scammers or buyers remorse or just plain people who don't understand what they're even buying so I don't set myself up for those hassles.
Heard all these arguments years ago when I had cars in rough shape selling for fairly large amounts, that I was ripping people off and all this other nonsense. They were terrible arguments then and they're terrible arguments now. The old saying is a fool and his money are soon parted - if you believe someone else a fool, so be it, but if they're pleased with their purchase then it's just your opinion and irrelevant.
04-15-2020 05:05 AM - edited 04-15-2020 05:08 AM
@postingid7659 wrote:Price gouging is when one charges an inflated price for an item because it's in short supply during a time of emergency or other issues. Starting a bid at 99 cents is the complete opposite, an attempt to draw bidders into fighting over an item.
Both of the approaches that you describe are taking advantage of the shortage in order to command higher prices. IMHO it is the seller's intent that is at issue, not the semantics.
And "charging an inflated price through an auction" is not the opposite of "charging an inflated price".
The opposite of "charging an inflated price" would be "not charging an inflated price at all".