09-29-2022 05:50 PM
Didn't know if this board was still open 😄. Aprox 13' x13" engraved steel plates. The lady I bought them from said they were 15/16th century. They are hand engraved with applied silver dots and inlaid with silver inlay. What I would like to know is what does the artwork portray? it looks right for that period. I believe they were used as medallions in a cabinet. Do the scenes ring any bells? Very hard to get good photos, will try again tomorrow. Thanks!
09-29-2022 05:53 PM
The horse armor looks right as does the clothing to me.
09-30-2022 12:41 AM
@sonomabarn67 wrote:
The lady I bought them from said they were 15/16th century.
🙂
09-30-2022 07:02 AM
I need to know if these might be noted scenes from history. Possibly scenes from period prints. It's all handwork in steel and silver. Do you recognize the fellow in the center? Is he a King? Military? 🤔 I don't understand why the happy face.
09-30-2022 07:16 AM - edited 09-30-2022 07:19 AM
@sonomabarn67 wrote:
I don't understand why the happy face.
It's a "slightly smiling" face. As in, smiling a little at the optimistic dating proposed by your lady seller (if she was referring to the objects themselves, rather than the scenes).
Could you upload another few pics of the second one? The details of the characters' dress could be important. Also, the backs of both?
09-30-2022 08:21 AM
@argon38 wrote:
@sonomabarn67 wrote:
I don't understand why the happy face.It's a "slightly smiling" face. As in, smiling a little at the optimistic dating proposed by your lady seller (if she was referring to the objects themselves, rather than the scenes).
My initial impression is that he is not smiling at all. Mouth corner is downward. I think it's the facial folds that could make it look like he's smiling.
Rita
09-30-2022 08:55 AM
More good news then. I best get those new pics up or the horse will expire in the gate.
09-30-2022 09:21 AM - edited 09-30-2022 09:24 AM
@melda58 wrote:
@argon38 wrote:
@sonomabarn67 wrote:
I don't understand why the happy face.It's a "slightly smiling" face. As in, smiling a little at the optimistic dating proposed by your lady seller (if she was referring to the objects themselves, rather than the scenes).
My initial impression is that he is not smiling at all. Mouth corner is downward. I think it's the facial folds that could make it look like he's smiling.
Rita
Oh, I was referring to my emoticon, not the man on horseback! I thought perhaps I'd puzzled Sonoma with my cryptic smiley response.
All I was getting at was this: I think they are fine pieces of craftsmanship, but I don't quite buy the proposed dating.
09-30-2022 09:23 AM
Those don't look 600 years old to me...just saying.
09-30-2022 09:34 AM
It's funny, similar items in the Met's collections look just like these. Just have to ask, are you well versed in 600 year old steel inlaid silver items?
09-30-2022 09:37 AM - edited 09-30-2022 09:38 AM
No but there's virtually no patina. There should at least be areas of uncurable patina on that.
The met has a museum curator probably with a Master's degree to take care of their items. I doubt the lady you bought it from is one.
09-30-2022 09:37 AM
Same answer as to gkn. what makes you say otherwise?
09-30-2022 09:46 AM - edited 09-30-2022 09:48 AM
@sonomabarn67 wrote:Same answer as to gkn. what makes you say otherwise?
Those photos first, please. And links to your Met comparables. Plenty of time to discuss the rest. 😀
09-30-2022 09:48 AM
Ever heard of old items that have been polished/cleaned?
09-30-2022 09:49 AM
Just my $0.02
But hey...Bob Vila candlesticks boiling water...what do I know?