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Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎01-23-2015

Re: Ripped off by buyer

in reply to esell-resell

Sold head phones to buyer in Texas. He claimed the box came empty. Ebay refunded his money and we got the tansaction charged!

Out $216.25.

luch6006
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Posts: 2
Registered: ‎01-06-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to ianmagellan

Yeah their only suggestion would be to issue the refund. I ship from Canada so this item you shipped is from USA correct?

The package you shipped probably has insurance included? I know from Canada Post there is insurance up to $100.00 on most parcels included at no charge and you can buy more insurance. If your package has insurance you should contact the mail service you used (USPS)? and file a claim for damaged item. At least that way you can get your shipping money back from them but the amount of the item will only be refunded back for the amount you put on the label. USA mail process may be different so I'm just letting you know that you may have a case with the mail service. Also this buyer sent you a pic of the boots so you have evidence and  the parcel was damaged. Buyer could be telling the truth or not. Either way, you can still get that money or most of that money back through the insurance claim. Hope your parcel has that or your going to be getting no help from Ebay in this case except the recommendation for just a refund.

 

Hope this helps :smileyhappy:

ianmagellan
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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-07-2011

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to karyn1124

I recently sold a pair of UGG boots to a person from Lithuania. First he asked me to reduce the price. I did. Then he asked me to reduce the shipping cost and I did again. Then he asked me to write "gift" on the shipping label, but I could not do it. I did put less value there so he did not have to pay so much customs as he stated. It took more than 40 days to arrive to is country and he opened the case that the boots were not as described. He said the boots were damaged during the shipping. Of course, Ebay issued the refund. Now he got the boots and his money back. I lost my UGG boots with $38 dollar shipping cost. So be careful to ship to this country. First, I do not understand why it took so long to get there by priority mail. Second, I do not understand how could the boots were totally wet according to the pictures he sent to me. Ebay custormer service just told me: issue the refund. It is your responsibility. Ebay is not going to pay that. I really did not ask Ebay to pay. I just needed a suggestion. No suggestions from them at all!

 

luch6006
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Posts: 2
Registered: ‎01-06-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to therichards06

Yeah I here you. I have had more problems in the last 3 months then I have ever since I started Ebay.  All the problems have come from Mexico and Brazil.  Don't ship to either of those places unless you feel like giving away free merchandise. I even tried to protect myself by scanning in the actual package with the Paypal shipping label that is printed through Ebayy/Paypal and that means nothing to them. What **bleep** me off the most was that they refunded this customer for a video game they bought. The customer finally sends me an Ebay email to say sorry but they received the game now. So will Ebay refund my money back or have the customer pay it back. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! They don't give a **bleep** that the customer received their item. Called customer service and after being on hold for like an eternity, I get the do you have a tracking#? The point was that the customer confirmed he received it so I would like the money back that you gave him. They say they can't confirm anything without a tracking number. No way to upload anything to them when a case is opened.  Well except for that answer to all problems "The tracking number" I even have another case where a customer confirmed he received the item and the case is still open for days and days because the buyer won't close it and Ebay again waiting for that tracking number. Not sure if any other sellers here are having items that are less then $5.00 fly out the door when your selling everything with a tracking number. Hmmmm a $3.00 cassette, sure I'll pay $8.00 to have it shipped locally with a tracking number. Yeah right!

Anybody else have that happen where Ebay refunded your customer and then your customer contacts you that they received it. There is nothing they will do for you. As if the customer will pay you after the fact. Don't ship to Brazil or Mexico!! Like I said about 10 problems in the last 3 months from those 2 places. 

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-28-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell
Ebay disappoints me!!!! Where is the seller protection?????? I just got a notice from them that they are siding with the buyer who claims the item is defective, which is bull!!! Anxiously waiting for my item to be returned....am doubtful it will all be sent back.
therichards06
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Posts: 4
Registered: ‎10-10-2007

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to grantorinobro11

Are you kidding me E-bay promotes buyers to rip off sellers. Every time you turn around it pops up in your face. If it not as described open a case we will get your money back. I have been selling for 5 years e-bay is going down the drain. They don't care what kind of buyers they have.Their unfair feedback is also a joke. I had 1,500 items listed I am now down to 500 soon I will not sell on e-bay as soon as my stores year runs out as I upgraded and it locked me in. Funny thing is if e-bay keeps this up all they will have on here is shi tbecause no decent people will want to sell anymore and all they will have is scammers.

Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎12-13-2007

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to ryamor-6s5oe7
You've got no feedback. What makes you an expert?
Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-09-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell
You are so right! We've been on Ebay since it began and it's gotten so bad with scammers. Ebay doesn't wanna hear it though and they only protect the buyer. We've had so many people buy an item then weeks later say that it wasn't as described. And ebay refunds them OUR money w/o our permission. Now they have 90 days to return an item, so they've increased the amount of time for returns. There are too many scams n Ebay doesn't want to hear the sellers side of the story. Buyer is always right, so says Ebay. Some idiots buy an item, say it's not as described n return their old damaged item. We have a pawn shop n inspect everything, we open brand new items b/c some ppl will open the box n take the new item,put something else in it's place then try to sell it to us. So we have to open brand new stuff. Some buyers will tell ebay that it's not new even though it's described as new. We take detailed pix n give detailed descriptions. But some buyers do not care to read that, and we say that we are a store n have to open n inspect all items that come to our store. Ebay kicked us off, deleted over 200 items we had listed. We had 98% positive feedback score. But a few idiots scammed us n ebay said it's our fault n we cld do nothing about it. I'm trying to find another auction site. We did well with sales, until all the pos buyers screwed us over. EBAY IS A JOKE N DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SELLER'S RIGHTS
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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-08-2011

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to ryamor-6s5oe7

No, to a large degree, BUYERS have become the #1 detriment to eBay sellers.  Like many other sellers, I am seeing a sudden influx of 'problem buyers'.

 

I have been both a buyer and a seller (on and off for over 10 years), so my perspective is -balanced- by experience.

 

Here is how many sellers now perceive 'buyer' expectations or FB reactions;: 

 

"It's not pufect, ith's not pufect"... 

 

Say it phonetically, with a 'speech impediment' (ala Elmer Fudd) and you'll get the joke.

 

This is the result of absurd 'buyer protections' set by ebay's greedy management.

 

The level of buyer fraud, buyer's 'remorse', and other buyer scams is soaring.

 

Ebay's bias towards buyers should be revised as follows:  Caveat Emptor

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-08-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell
E bay is awful!!!! They protect sellers who rip people off.
Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎11-23-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell
I wonder how many of you gyes have put items on hear and been less than honest about the shape it's in or even if it works in my experience the sellers are the crooks...if u sell what u say ur selling and it's in good shape odds are there won't be any problems. ..
Community Member
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎02-06-2013

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to blacksecrettechnology

Yup!!!

 That happens to many people here. It's not just one negative or return, its two or three. Just enough to knock you out of being a top notch seller with the 20% discount..

If you sell $2000 dollars worth a month, that adds up to $200 in savings back into ebays pocket. Multiply that by millions, and they can afford to buy quite a few auctions and post negative feedback.

 with all their money, i'm sure they have bought and paid for the government just like the Krotch brothers...:smileyhappy:

lexxxxlex
Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎01-04-2006

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to derrickis1

They shouldl call it ebay shop lifting.  Whops....its on amazon too. worse on amazon.

lexxxxlex
Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎01-04-2006

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to blacksecrettechnology

I just got a steady stream of rip off buyers.  They refuse to just send back the item for a refund.  Some are chinese and seem to write poor english.  They can't understand that an item that says 5 lbs is not ten pounds or vise versa.  one wanted 2 orders for the price of one because the same picture was used for the five pound item as the ten pound item that were clearly designated as different net weights.  One i had to refund half the order and because of their confusion and the other on i just told to thow it out and not send it back losing a substantial amount of money. I know more about my product than they do. The customer is always right.  Next name that is chinese i am not mailing out the item withouit feedback in advance that they know what it is they are paying for.  2 in a row like that is too many.

blacksecrettechnology
Community Member
Posts: 20
Registered: ‎03-21-2006

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell

Ebay doesn't care about their sellers.  It's obvious.  I had a perfect 100% feedback and no negatives for 1.5 years - now I've received 3 in one month with absolutely no contact made by the buyer even though we offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee.  Ebay customer service has repeatedly told me that I'm just screwed and that there's nothing that they can do.  Malicious buyers are destroying my business.  How will I feed my family?

 

EBAY:  PLEASE, MAKE IT MANDATORY FOR A BUYER TO TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH A SELLER BEFORE BEING ABLE TO LEAVE NEUTRAL OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.  All of my neutrals and negatives that I received were all made without any contact attempted.  All of them are completely unjustified.  

 

Ebay - without sellers you will make no money.  I am currently in the process of looking into other venues to sell from so that I can close my Ebay account for good.  

 

I'm a Top Rated Gold Level Power Seller and I work 90+ hours a week to feed my family.  The buyer is NOT always right.  I do everything right and even offer complete refunds without a return!  After 1.5 years of no negatives and then 3 neutrals and 3 negs in a less than one month period, I've had enough.  Ebay is unwilling to help.

 

I understand that there's the occasional bad buyer, but this is getting out of hand.  I find it hard to believe that it's just a coincidence that this is happening.  I've been working harder than ever and it seems like I'm being punished for it.

 

EBAY - HELP YOUR SELLERS!  WITHOUT US, YOU WOULD HAVE NOTHING!

Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎11-18-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to porento175

yeah ebay and paypal stole money i didnt have from my bank account trying to refund bull**bleep**

if a auction is marked no returns no refunds as is etc

then the buyer has no ground to stand on if they want something new buy something new but to screw someones livelyhood and make it so they cant make payments pay bills do business etc is lame i hope theres a place all of us who have been ripped off can get together and do a joint action lawsuit or something to end this

Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎11-18-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to pimpernal

well ive had more than a few people rip me off on ebay yeah a few sellers but my main problem has always been with buyers scamming me sending back empty or half empty boxes etc and ebay/paypal ganking the money i didnt have from my bank account so i end up having to pay late fee's penaltys etc etc

 

the latest case is i sold an item as is that i couldnt test the guy gets it says it doesnt work so he wants his money back but rather than talk to me and maybe say hey i am sorry i made a mistake can i please return this ill pay for the return shipping to witch i would have said ok

the buyer decided to **bleep** and cry to ebay and have the funds pulled back from my bank account and put on hold stopping all my business costing me lots of time and money its crazy bull**bleep** i call ebay they till me its paypals problem to call them so i call paypal and they tell me to call ebay i call ebay they say call paypal i call paypal again they said yeah were the same company till 2016 so basicly we can pick and choose policys to follow we cant strop transations or refunds or help you in anyway sorry your right i feel bad for you but theres nothing i can do

 

thats how all my calls with ebay or paypal go they are sorry they can see i am right but theres nothing they can do its a scam i am a single dad on disablity who got sucked into the bill me later bull**bleep** and now feel like i am never gonna be able to get it paid off and closed and they wont let me close anything or stop anything untill its paid

 

ack all i gotta say is dont sell on ebay and dont use paypal its a bad deal they support and help thieves bootlegers pirates etc

 

if a item is marked as is no returns at any store if someone walks in and says i want a full refund or at the very least give me 50bucks cash and ill stop bothering you and freezing your money with my complaints they would be beat down and thrown out

 

i would love some help dealing with ebay/paypal if anyone brings a lawsuit against them i would love to help however i can i think they should be shut down because of the way they practice business my emails saila.nadeau@yahoo.com

susanxx1
Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎11-13-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to pimpernal

You Know I feel really sorry for what's happened to you, I thought my case was bad enough when I sold a paid of Diamond earing the buyers wore, them broke them and after four weeks opened a return. Its not what I wanted to call her, Ebay is a haven for thieves.

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎11-10-2009

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to derrickis1

YES I AGREE WITH YOU. THERES NOTHING WORSE THEN TRYING TO TALK TO SOME ORIENTAL THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND OR SHE ?OR HE CANT UNDERSTAND YOU. I DONT EVEN WAST MY TIME .IF I CANT UNDERSTAND THEM VERY WELL I HANG UP AND TRY AGAIN.YES EBAY HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND..IAM TIRED OF THERE NEW RULES THAT FAVER THE BUYER.AND BIDDER. IF  THAY WIN AN ITEM AND CHANGE THERE MIND OR JUST DONT PAY FOR IT...THERES NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ..THE BOTTOM LINE I DONT GET PAID AND  I WASTED TIME ENERGY AND MONEY MISSING ARROUND WITH EBAY .!!! WE ARE JUST STUCK AT THE DIRTY END OF THE DEAL !!! E BAY DOESNT HELP THE SELLER AT ALL. JUST A BUNCH OF WASTED PAPERWORK IF YOU ASK ME !!

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-23-2014

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to retirednotbychoice

this is why i am qutting using ebay......buyers keep winning and buying my auctions and  asking for their money back at various points after i have gotten the payment.  I keep having to do 3 times the work for one auction.  my items lose value, get returned, lose watchers and i have to put up with these lying dirtbaf buyers because of ebays policies.  i have a friend that has a company called auction doctors.  He does anywhere from 100 to 300 grand on ebay a year and he is the one who organized all my complaints for . i am an above avereage seller,,,,,they have lost my business.  But now they are going to start losing the big boys.  You have to protect the seller.  1 auction should mean 1 auction.  screw this relisting , refunding idiots with attitudes Bull@#$%.  And i am tired of customer service girls that cant speak english and dont understand the job they have and hold times waiting for managers that never pick up.  screw ebay royally.

 

true joke

 

etsy, craigslist,  here i come