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Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎08-11-2011

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell

A fellow ebay seller bought a music equipment item that did not work with his system he did not research if this would work on his system he did not contact us at all just started a defect item with ebay he would not contact us because my husband was wanting to ask him if it was compatiable with his system which it stated all that information in our ad finally he had to answer us through all the emails it was determined it did not work with his system. Defect item case went through anyways. I assumed he did not want to pay to ship back item to us in other words not pay for his mistake in anyway. We disputed the defect charge against us with all the emails showing that the person ordered something that did not work with his system he won his defect item award anyways . We would had let him return the item and him pay the shipping (WHICH HE SHOULD HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING IN THE FIRST PLACE) he sent item back not packed good at all package was busted open when it got to us and my husband checked the item and it was working great. He knew exactly what he was doing not caring that it bumped our rating down. I am just a small seller people like this are trying to put us out of business I guess.    Well I believe what goes around comes around.  Sure takes the fun out of selling on ebay.  

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Registered: ‎03-03-2007

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

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in reply to 360private

... Tried to rip me off but luckily eBay went in my favor as far as allowing him to return the item or get a refund. But, with the policy that sellers cant leave negative feedback it results in you getting a negative if you dont play by their game.  

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎11-19-2009

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell
The only way for any action to take place is to get EBay/PayPal where it'll hurt most, their wallet. If 100's or 1,000's of sellers like ourselves were to stop selling things on here for a few weeks they'd surely pay attention then! As individuals we hardly have any power, but together we'd make them listen! I can remember a time when EBay cared about both the seller and buyer, but that time is over. Now buyers can and do easily get the item they ordered, plus their money back. Since EBay doesn't even require the buyer to send back your item before you refund the money, oh and did I mention they freeze your PayPal account in the process.. I for one will not sell another item on EBay until something is done about this one sided buyer "free for all"
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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-17-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to trashydiamonds
well said brother.
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Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by buyer...Update!

in reply to kdaggs47
Same boat I'm doing the same thing!
Community Member
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Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to sjello

I'm with you! We need to permanently delete them off eBay somehow.
Community Member
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to 360private
I agree messed up!
Community Member
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Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to beachgirlbaby01
Tried that it didn't work.
Community Member
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Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to trashydiamonds
I'm leaving eBay too it's messed up!!
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Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to trashydiamonds
I agree!!! We need to start a list of all the difficult ass holes who will never be pleased and officially deleting them from eBay so they can't sell or buy cause they sell **bleep** but want something way nicer.
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Posts: 7
Registered: ‎05-15-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to wrappingitallup
Oh I am done with eBay! Same issues buy way more than I sell and I it's a hit miss but I will not nit pick every single item. Just sold a used item to seller luxetcloset who claims item is too used come on it was in the listing now demanding return. I guess wants brand new. Who knows if she didn't wear them and than changed her mind. I wish another company would take over eBay where sellers are protected instead of held hostage buy the buyers. I think more and more people are not going to be selling in eBay and than see how they like it. I know I'm not gonna sell anymore of my high end items as I don't want to be scammed by some losers from Russia who want everything nice and new and free! Yeah Tatyana I'm talking about you!
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Registered: ‎02-10-2013

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell

This stinks!  I am both a Buyer and a Seller, although, I buy way more than I sell on here and rotten Buyers are why.  I just sold a necklace.. cheap, way cheaper then I should have and what did I get.  A royal pain in the BLEEEEEP!!  No matter how many ways I have had to prove that I was being an honest Seller, this person persists!  She wanted a $400 gold chain, so she bid on my plated gold necklace and pendant.  First thing, she sends a message telling me she wants a solid gold chain.  I sent her a message that 14 kt EP was in the listing.  Then she tells ebay that I didn't make the print big enough.  Then she turns around and "claims" the item is damaged.  If it is, then I will gladly refund her money, but she refused to send pictures!  When that doesn't work for her, she attacks my design work on this piece!!  OMG!!!  I have had some issues myself with Sellers that take pictures that aren't even close, but come on!  If I have a complaint, I get put the paces!!!  Where are these idiots coming from?!  Are they growing them stupid somewhere?

As of late yesterday, her new reported issue is that it doesn't match the listing, again.  And yes, it stinks that we give good feedback for a promt payment, but can't retract it when teh Buyer turns out to be a Bully!

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎02-08-2008

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to slamdunk3434

BOYCOTT NOTICE:  I just wanted to drop in to thank everyone for the posts.  They have been very useful.  I used to sell my used electronics on eBay, and currently have a laptop and iphones I was going to list, but have realized eBay has become too dangerous of a venue to do so.  eBay should understand they just now lost fees on approximately $1,000 of merchandise.  I'll be selling the stuff on facebook to someone local instead.  I'm no interest in giving these items away for free.  Word is getting around about this and so I checked into the issue before listing.  Very glad I did.

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎04-26-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to magickmarketing

I have to agree. Even before I started selling on e-bay, I worked in retail for the last 5 yrs. I am amazed at the things customers would try to return to get a refund. Clothing they wore with deodorant stains, funky smells etc. Or things they have had for over a year or two, no tags, no receipt. These were the customers that would cause a scene usually and demand a refund IN CASH. What would happen is the store (a Major Department Store-who pays their employees like **bleep**) would give them what they want even though   the customer is fully taking advantage of the situation. It was a joke. I can see those same type of customers shopping on ebay as well.  I have had to learn about including a disclosure on every one of my listings now. One regarding shipping, and one regarding used items being sold "as is". I'm hoping this will help deter these kind of buyers. I am a buyer as well as a seller, and never do I have issue with what I buy. That's because I read the description thoroughly, check seller ratings, and read seller feedback.

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Posts: 4
Registered: ‎04-25-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell

Ebay sells a service, which makes them a seller and they fully protect themselves but they leave there sellers high and dry and rippppppppppppppppppped off!!!!!!!!! 

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Registered: ‎04-25-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell

When will it start? How will it start? Who will start it? How will it end?

What am I talking about? The next American Revolution.

 

How much longer will people take what our own government is doing to us? For more than 30 years I have been saying, “If a foreign country was doing to us what our government is doing to us we would be at war.”

I am not going to re-cap all the things that the Federal Government has done to us, is doing to us and will be doing to us in the future but when will the American people reach the breaking point and take action? Our government is like a runaway train that is going to crash. It is just a matter of when, not if unless something is done.

Ronald Reagan reminded us that freedom CAN be lost when he said, “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

I fear we are the generation that is going to let Reagan down and let freedom extinguish in our time. Every day we lose more and more freedoms. It is a gradual decay and this is on purpose in the hopes that “We the People” won’t notice it or won’t care until it is too late to change anything.

We have a wonderful gift in this country that was given us by the Founders. They risked their fortunes and their very lives to give us what we have and today it seems no one cares if we throw it all away. Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and the others would be so disappointed in us.

Yes, there is still hope to restore our country to what it once was but time is running out quickly. Think about the risk the founders took? They were under the rule of the King of England and the strongest military in the world but the lure of freedom and individual liberty drove them to do something the world had never seen before.

The concept that Americans have the right to “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” and that these rights were given not by a King or government that could take them away, but by God and are inalienable was unique in human history.  Never had such a document as the Declaration been produced and never has once since.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

The Declaration was an act of treason and the signers risked their very lives by putting their name on it. If they were captured by the British they would have been executed. When the Declaration was signed there was no cheering reports say, it was a solemn moment as they all understood the gravity of what they had just done.

Ben Franklin is noted as saying, “Indeed we must all hang together, otherwise we shall most assuredly hang separately.”

They risked it all for an idea, for a concept, for true freedom and liberty. Ask yourself this, what are you willing to risk to retain what they gave us? A friend of mine once told me that nothing will change. The government will keep taking away our freedoms, keep spending and printing money until one day it all collapses. Nothing or no one can stop it.

I asked, “Why?” “Why can’t we stop this? Why can’t we take back our country and restore our government to what it should be? Why can’t we secure individual liberty and freedom just as the Founders did?” His response was that in today’s world none of us are willing to risk losing what we have to get it done. We all have nice, easy lives. We have nice homes, cars, computers, jobs, family vacations, swimming pools, RV’s, smart phones, a day at the beach, etc and we want to enjoy every bit of this great lifestyle we have been blessed with. We don’t want to risk losing that.

So we turn our backs on what is happening. We look the other way as liberals, progressives, socialists and Marxists ‘fundamentally change’ the very heart of our country. Heck, we are too busy making America run anyway. So we ‘let’ it all happen right under our noses.

Where is the next Thomas Jefferson, The next Ben Franklin, or the next John Adams? Is there another ‘revolutionary’ out there today that is willing to risk it all for our Country like they did? Glenn Beck called Rick Santorum the ‘Next George Washington” but does anyone really think ANY of the people running for President these days will make a difference? Not likely. As Gingrich says, “they will just manage the decay.”

If there is not someone out there that is willing to risk everything to take a stand and start a revolution like they did in 1776 nothing change. And even if someone stands up will people like us rally around this person and stand with them or will we watch from a safe distance (just in case) and let them fall?

The great thing about our society is we CAN peacefully change our government. It may not be easy and it may not be pretty but we can do it IF we all rally together. Sure, the Founders signed the Declaration. It was a very brave and bold thing to do BUT if the PEOPLE did not rally around the cause, if the PEOPLE were not willing to risk what they had the movement would have failed. If the PEOPLE were not willing to pledge “Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor” the British would have won and there would be no United States of America.

And it was not easy to radically change their world as it won’t be easy to change ours. It took years and years of sacrifice. Who amongst us believes in “true” liberty and freedom enough to make that sacrifice? We all talk about it. But who is supremely committed to the cause? Make no doubt the liberals are absolutely committed on their side. They even told us flat out in 2008 that they wanted to fundamentally change America and let me tell you they are doing it!

Maybe there are millions of us out there that would risk everything to making real change happen. And save America. Maybe we are just sitting and patiently waiting for someone to lead us. Perhaps we are not fed up enough yet or we have not been pushed all the way to the wall. Maybe because our own standard of living is still good and we are afraid to risk that.

So what can really be done? What is reality? Are we going to ‘settle’ for what we think is realistic change or will we demand radical change to restore America to what it once was? Ron Paul thinks real change won’t happen. I heard him comment on the radio a few months ago that he is afraid that politicians will never have the will to do what is right and that real chance will only come after a total collapse of our economic system. Are we going to wait until that happens?

Believe me, there will be no change no matter who we elect. Even the most ardent Tea Party believers get elected and then find they don’t have the ability to change Washington. Either they can’t or they change their views because they don’t want to risk what they now have, meaning risk losing their next election and their cushy and powerful job in Washington. We will have to “force” change. Make no doubt about it otherwise it is not going to happen and what Ron Paul envisions will become reality one day.

Here are a couple scenarios that I could envision ‘forcing’ radical change in Washington. Not saying either of these is the right way or they would work but they are possible ways.

Scenario A)

1)      Ten million of us march on Washington DC and peacefully invade and take over Congress. We demand a total resignation of everyone in Congress. We literally shutdown the federal government as we know it by the sheer mass of ten million of us.

2)      Ten million of us all stop paying taxes at the same time. We opt out of the system and bring the government to its financial knees while at the same time demanding that all current politicians resign.

3)      Only people who take a pledge to never allow the government to spend more than it takes in (except in times of declared war) will be allowed to fill the now empty seats in Congress.  They must also pledge to run our government according to what the Constitution says.

4)      The Federal Reserve will be fully audited and made to operate in the open.

Scenario B)

1)      A number of states opt out of the system. A good example would be Governor Perry of Texas telling the Federal Government that Texas will no longer be accepting any funds from the Federal Government and will no longer be sending any funds to the Federal Government. The residents of Texas will no longer pay income taxes to the Federal Government and Texas will operate as an independent Republic.

2)      Other states such as Alaska, Montana, Idaho, North Dakota and more do the same. These new “Republics” form a consortium of Free States and trade with each other as well as encourage free enterprise to prosper by having no corporate income taxes.

3)      Citizens of the United States are free to move to any of these new Free states and opt out of Washington DC’s control over their lives.

Please propose your ideas as to how we can really change direction in Washington. We need ideas. We need to take control of our future or it will control us.

The question many people have would be if the Federal Government will allow something like this to happen or would they try and deploy our military to stop it. I contend that even if Congress or the President tried to make the military deploy against American citizens they would not do it. They would refuse and hopefully even support the peaceful movement to restore America.  The hope will be that the police and the military will ‘allow’ this to happen without using force. If the movement is large enough how can they stop us? Have you heard of the Oathkeepers?

Don’t kid yourself and think meaningful change will happen without turmoil and strife. It won’t happen without sacrifice at a level no one in our generation has ever seen. Are we willing to make that sacrifice? I am but how many others are?

How many are willing to pledge “our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor” to restore America?

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Registered: ‎04-25-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to esell-resell

Yep, I have a buyer who purchased a bracelet and paid for standard shipping, tracking shows it's on it's way and in her city to be delivered this day, shipping time is 2 to 9 days.  The buyer puts in a request for item not delivered and they take the money out of my account.  The buyer didn't even get the item or wait the allotted shipping time and shows tracking.  What store can you go to and get a refund without the item????????????????????????????????????  I'm going to finish my sales and leave ebay.  this is total you know what!!!!!!  Sellers are nothing to ebay, we have a ton on them and yet we deal with the big corp blantant rip offs.  Ebay is just laughing at the sellers all the way to the bank.  Oh DON'T DO GLOBAL SHIPPING, IT'S A SCAM.  EBAY JUST PRESENTED IN A PRETTIER PACKAGE, DO FALL FOR IT.

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Registered: ‎02-20-2010

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to vegas-vintage-vault

Ive had that problem in the past. Lately these few days buyers have been pretty good. I try to stay in touch with them. Let them know whars going on updates.



The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it.


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Posts: 5
Registered: ‎08-26-2008

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to sjello

Going thru the same.  He left a positive feedback then opened a return case Buyer showed photos of a damaged item that does not even Look anything like what I sent or listed in my listings and eBay ruled in his favor and I am supposed to refund him while I am sure he is sending a bogus item back.  Hoping for an eventual class actions suit against eBay. In the meantime I may have an officer present and will record while I open the returned box.  I have a repairmen that will verify what I shipped. What a scam.

Vintage items galore and so much more!

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎04-07-2015

Re: Ripped off by yet another buyer! Ebay's Buyer Wins no matter what policy.

in reply to 360private

I agree here ! buyers are taking liberties and the seller loses all the time ,. classic is my measurements are wrong i want a part refund , you give one and they leave low rating then your restricted to selling less JOKE