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photo911
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Registered: ‎08-12-2004

Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

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in reply to lucille.b

Hi, I happened across your post and the definitive answer regarding Rolex timepieces you received isn't quite correct. "gold shelled" or "gold wrapped" was a term used to describe pieces produced. I welcome you to drop over to TRF (The Rolex Forum). It is a wonderful, warm and welcoming community.. and our experts are always happy to help. https://www.rolexforums.com/

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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to lucille.b

lucille.b wrote:

 

So, in short, Rolex watches were either 14K or 18K gold or stainless -- never gold plated.  Do I have that correct for future reference?

 

 

 


Answer: yes

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to fab50cafe

Thanks, Fab50.

 

Appreciate the detailed response.  I'm sure there is a fake rolex question several times a week here, so thanks for the help.

 

So, in short, Rolex watches were either 14K or 18K gold or stainless -- never gold plated.  Do I have that correct for future reference?

 

Cheers, L.

 

 

 

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Registered: ‎05-02-2006

Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to afantiques
obvious fake
because of the wear / discoloration / finish coming off the "gold"
and the bezel isn't correct.

rolex's are 14k or 18k gold - solid or with stainless steel.
about the only thing a real precious metal will do is scratch; certainly
none of the above.

as for the bezel, the hills & valleys should be a bit more
smooth rather than sharp like yours.

Probably other things but i can't get back to the pics on my ipad to look.

i bought a fake Rolex in Mexico about 20 years ago, and it still looks better than yours.

if its any help, i believe yours to be vintage because of the bracelet clasp.
don't think they've looked like that since the 80s or earlier.
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afantiques
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to kenknox

A real Rolex oyster will have a screw down crown. You first back it off a turn to unscrew it, the crown pops out a bit and it is ready to wind.

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kenknox
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to lucille.b

I,m not a Rolex expert either. I,m going on what I own. My gold president has a solid gold back.My others have a solid stainless steel back.  Yours looks to be plated and worn.  To take off the back cover on a real one you will need a special tool. Some but not all watch repair persons will have this tool.

 

Ken 

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

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Thank you, Ken.

 

Sounds like you have a beautiful watch.

 

Is any wear is a read flag? The wear on the band of this is extensive, by the way.   I know zilch about Rolex watches, so fully admit ignorance.  I know many are gold, were they sometimes made with plated steel or is that a red flag in and of itself?

 

As far as removing the back cover, I assume the band should come off first, but even that is not an easy trick. Was trying to get the little band pin that holds it in to retract, but the opening where the pin fits in is so small there is no access so gave up after several attempts.  I wouldn't mind taking this extra step to remove the back cover, if I could remove it. If nothing else to show the inside, some may be curious.  Is this the kind of thing I need a watch repair person to do?

 

Thank you.

 

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kenknox
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to lucille.b

 are there any other easy to spot red flags from my photos why this is a fake other than the crown being stuck?

 

 

I own a  gold Rolex President  simmilar to what your watch is attempting to represent.  One of the most obvious things on your watch that says its a fake is the wear,especially on the back cover.The best way to tell though is to take off the back cover and look at the movement.

 

Ken

 

 

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to afantiques

Thanks for both of the responses.  Much appreciated.

 

Fair enough, what I should have said was that the crown doesn't move.  It doesn't wind, nor does it pull out to enable the time to be set.

 

I have no money in this, it was free with some older items in a box -- thought I'd bring it to the board in the extremely unlikely event more research was needed.  But now that I'm here, are there any other easy to spot red flags from my photos why this is a fake other than the crown being stuck?

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

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afantiques
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

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You say it seems to be overwound. This is laymans language for 'I have not got the faintest idea what is wrong with it but it won't wind up any  more'. It is a tradition among watch repairers to charge anyone who uses this phrase 20% more as a nonsense tax. It  means you can tell the customer that the cannon pinion is not meshing with the lever pivot and they will simply agree with you or pretend to understand.

 

In this case, it means the watch is a fake, as automatic movement watches have a winding arrangement that slips when they are fully wound, so being unable to wind the watch cannot happen. (short of some hard to imagine internat catastrophic failure)

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victorjunkman55
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to lucille.b

you need to read back a page here on this board, and see other guys problem with his fake rolex. uproar over junk.

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

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lucille.b
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Re: Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

in reply to lucille.b

Last shot was at a bit of an angle.  The number is even when looking down.  Here is the entire watch:

 

 

 

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lucille.b
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Rolex watch, Oyster Perpetual real or fake? Thanks.

Thank you so much for taking a look.

 

No money in this, was found in a box with some other things.

 

I attempted to begin some research on various fake/real Rolex websites, but realized the online information might not be correct.

 

Here is what I can tell you. Watch is not working, seems overwound. The front crystal is scratched in several places.  Watch feels fairly heavy in the hand, weighs 110 grams. 

 

If there is any slim chance this is a real Rolex, please let me know.  Can post additional photos if needed.

 

(For some reason the feature that allows several pics in a post is not working.  Will add photos by replying.)

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

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