Just wondering how old things need to be?
This is what I got from Wiki ...
I have read a great definition of "vintage" from a poster here some time ago..VINTAGE: ' I haven't seen one in a while..' There are other defintions as well that he/she wrote and I took the liberty of writing them down for MY own use and everytime I go on e-bay to view for purchasing, I look at my card (where they're written) and I get a good chuckle...need the chuckle because shipping cost is a reality check, but a necessary evil...here are the rest..1) ANTIQUE-"My grandmother used to have one" 2) VINTAGE-"I haven't seen one in a while" 3) OLD-"Mines in the attic" 4) CLASSIC-"Popular last year" 5) RARE- "Listed on E-BAY no oftener than once a week" 6) UNIQUE- "Only a dozen left" 7) COLLECTABLE- "I thought it was great, but I don't want it anymore" 8) SCARCE- "I need to get it sold before I misplace again" 9) RETRO- "Covered in plastic and price jacked up" I wished that I kept the posters name, they deserve all the credit for such insightfulness
For most things (although lots of folks would like to think otherwise) antiques are items that are at least 100 years old. There are some exceptions. For example, antique cars are ones over 45 years old.
Vintage is an overused word that essentially means little without an accompanying time frame (e.g. 1950s), For example, if you say I "a vintage toy robot", it conveys little information. However, if you say "a vintage 1960s toy robot", it conveys that the robot is from the 1960s.
Lots of folks use vintage to mean a certain number of years, and that may be true for certain items that have been defined that way. However, you can have vintage wine that is from 2004 (2004 vintage). You can have vintage PCs from the 1980s. You can have vintage Beanie Babies from the 1990s.
You are full of it. You are not going by wikipedia here. You are supposed to abide by ebay guidelines or be fined for false advertisement. If you don't know what an antique it go to an antique dealer and find out. Or talk to ebay. I am reporting people when I see false advertisement because it is not true.
"You are supposed to abide by ebay guidelines or be fined for false advertisement."
You're joking right???
"....go to an antique dealer and find out. Or talk to ebay."
...that is even funier.
Hamptonauction: I laughed when I read that too.
OP: skipper gave the best answer. Vintage depends on the item. I sell glass and pottery. Dish sets made in the 1920's to the 30's are Depression from the 40's to the 70's are vintage. Limoges place settings made in the 1890-1900's are antique.
I also agree with Skippers answer, which is how I use the terms.
In this country, "Antique" has a LEGAL definition of 100 years old. Period. Done. Anything older that 100 years old is an an antique.
No more to say about it.
Vintage: EVERYTHING created has a vintage. Everything! Although it originally was a term most specific to wine, it has come to mean WHEN SOMETHING / ANYTHING WAS MADE. Period. Done.
However, use some sense when using the term. If you are talking about an item that makes one think of a particular era, cite the era. As in Vintage 1920's flapper dress, WWII Cookbook (blethch!), the cookies your mother made yesterday at four PM. Yes, that IS the cookies V I N T A G E!!!
If perhaps you know your item has some age to it, but you haven't a clue, follow the people on eBay and use the word "vintage," if you must. A prospective buyer will know that the widget IS older than last week, and if you say (in the body of the text) that it belonged to your Uncle Fred who died 23 years ago, it will give them some vague, but possibly useful idea.
And do not forget that an antique also has a vintage. As in "Antique Naval Uniform, vintage 1860's.
And, don't ever misidentify. If that uniform wasn't issued until the 1880's, trust me, some collector will KNOW.
Print this out. It's the only eBay topic about which I speak ex cathedra! And it makes everything very simple.
silverthwaite is correct.
The word VINTAGE only means the date something was made. If you use the term on Ebay, you can mean a particular decade, like "Vintage 1970s" or "Vintage 1940s." I does not refer to a particular date.
Most real dealers will agree that to be an antique, the item must be 100 years or older.
I get annoyed when I'm looking for something antique and I get a gazillion hits on "antique finish" stuff.
To be considered as antique, according to google search sites they say it must be 100 years of age. I had always been taught it was 75 but I guess too many things lasted that long so now they raised it LoL. But it does say 100 years old.
You said what I really wanted to say to that person about them telling on them...tattle tells beware beware we have a person getting their rocks off by doing nothing but slamming then jamming the people right down the throats of eBay as if eBay has nothing better to do than to follow a little twit or I mean person for being such a tattle tell! They need to get over themselves already!
I was going to ask the same question... vintage or antique...what's the time/era difference? Still confussed...there seems to be no true agreement on the two words.
Oh, dear. I go away for an extended period because the boards got so negative and I come back to discover nothing has changed.
I know Silverthwaite and if she wants to speak 'ex cathedra', by golly, I am behind her 100%. Can you all stand down and stop being such nit-pickers?
I'm going back to the other forum where folks are civil to one another.
It looks like this thread is getting a little off topic. Does anyone have any additional information for babyhoneyand7 relating to "How old does something need to be to be considered vinatge or antique?"?
Thank you,everyone for the definitions on "Antique" and "Vintage".Your group has helped me considerably,since I am a doll collector and very careful to buy the dolls I love,but also enjoy learning about their age ,including the history. Bev