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odiescoins
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to patrickh3342

patrickh3342 wrote:

odiescoins wrote:

Now would you care to explain how that translates to "Gore gained the majority of his wealth from green investments"?

 

Got that from the false information masquerading as fact in one of your links. Noted that you don't agree with some of the information that you post. Were you aware of the errors in net worth and how he actually has accumulated his wealth before you posted these links? 


You just wasted my time with 6 posts where your responses to me were based on a totally bogus distortion of what I said and now you are starting with the red herrings.

Red herring #1: The only error relevant to this discussion at this point is the one you made by directing your contextually irrelevant and unsubstantiated opinions toward a totally false assumption about what you were rebutting.

 

Red herring #2: Whether I agree or not with the articles I cited is immaterial since, as I said, "I presented four articles in which different authors presented similar views and then drew a conclusion based on their articles."

That conclusion unequivocally stated "Sure looks to me like it is perfectly legitimate to say that Al Gore made millions on the global warming hoax".

The fact that you chose to distort the scope of what I said and now want to blame your actions on the articles is clearly your problem not mine.

Red herring #3: As for "the errors in net worth and how he actually has accumulated his wealth", that question is also irrelevant since I confined my conclusion to talking only about the millions Gore made promoting the AGW message. I tried to tell you that in my initial response to you in Post 11,532 but apparently you were so intent on proving your point you preferred to go off half-cocked rather than consider what I said.

So again I ask you to explain how my original statement translates to "Gore gained the majority of his wealth from green investments".

Unless of course you would prefer to provide the details to demonstrate that Al Gore didn't "make millions on the global warming hoax".

Good luck proving that since, as I knew before starting this discussion, his film, An Inconvenient Truth, "grossed over $24 million in the U.S. and over $49 million worldwide as of June 3, 2007".
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070707164211AADgsJh


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patrickh3342
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to indian_jeff

indian_jeff wrote:

patrickh3342 wrote:

indian_jeff wrote:

hellababy wrote:

Wow someones getting schooled ! O.C. should give this one up .:smileylol:


 

 indian_jeff wrote:

It's the rest of us who should do as Gore says to do because we are useless peons.

 

patrickh3342 wrote:

Too bad you avoided his advice on Apple and Google. Over 5000% return since Steve Jobs asked him to come over. Also joined Google before it went public in 2004. You could've been jetting around too instead of stuck behind the counter.

 

 


Apparently you don't know whom you are addressing. I retired in 1983 and spent the next five years exploring America on a BMW motorcycle. Some, here, have actually looked me up on the web and found other bikers writing about me. As a matter of fact, I've been mentioned in three motorcycle-travel-related books and dozens of magazine articles. 

 

As I mentioned before, I was delighted to be offered my job and came out of a comfortable retirement to accept this position. I'm hardly "stuck behind the counter." 

 

I've found, over the decades, that if someone accuses me of some failing that I know doesn't apply to me, then it is the accuser who is seeing a failing in himself. He is actually berating himself and not me.

 

I love my job. At first, I thought it would be all about rare coins. What I came to discover, though, that the real joy is the people who come to us with their inheritances. The interactions are all unique and, since I might be going over their collections for hours with them, we spend a lot of time interacting. I love to hear them laugh and I especially love to hear them say, "My God!" when I find a particularly choice coin. When I read the five-star Internet reviews they leave me--and I have more than any other coin shop employee in America--and keep reading how fun and educational the experience was, I reminded that I have the perfect job.

 

As another numismatist, Q. David Bowers, says, "Do something you love and you will never work a day in your life."

 

Plus, the money is pretty good, too.


Ok Jeff if you're saying that sitting on an additional $2-5M of Apple stock wouldn't have you doing more of what you love in a much different way instead of sitting behind the same counter then I didn't know the type of person I was addressing. Thank you for clearing that up. Your boss will be happy to hear it.

 

Well I'll count you out for  Numismatist of the Year, and the hall of fame. Although you will always have your Internet reviews. 

 

This is also the type of mentality that leads you to not be impressed with a 5000% ROI in just 10 years for something that is not rare in any way. Mind you that also leads you to believe that writing a company check for $250k is somehow impressive. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to odiescoins

odiescoins wrote:

Now would you care to explain how that translates to "Gore gained the majority of his wealth from green investments"?

 

Got that from the false information masquerading as fact in one of your links. Noted that you don't agree with some of the information that you post. Were you aware of the errors in net worth and how he actually has accumulated his wealth before you posted these links? 

 

 

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gacooke
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to odiescoins

I know Odie.

 

I'm pretty sure they are more concerned about what might be their latest tweet, rather than what might be reality.



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odiescoins
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to gacooke

gacooke wrote:

hellababy wrote:

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it . How about leaving your comfort zone sometime and posting on something other than the failures of your President ? 


What a hoot!

 

I know this might be tough for you, but try reading this thread from the beginning. [snip]

 


The sorry situation is that he/she only has to go back a few pages to page 1157 and read the post that explains what happened. Apparently that's too much effort for someone who claims they "dig a little deeper".


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odiescoins
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to hellababy

hellababy wrote:

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it . How about leaving your comfort zone sometime and posting on something other than the failures of your President ? 


Obviously you either didn't read post 11,562 or you are deliberately ignoring what the post says.

This is not a case of my opinion vs. your opinion. The indisputable facts are that you injected yourself into a discussion siding with a poster who was proven to be totally off base and now you are refusing to acknowledge that your snide comments supporting his position were equally off base.

You can be sure that I will continue to point that out to you until you accept responsibility for your actions which is what any mature adult would do when faced with such a situation.

You know, hellababy, the easiest way to get yourself out of the hole you dug for yourself is to stop digging because each new post where you try to avoid responsibility for your actions only serves to point out just how shallow your positions are.

As for posting something other than the failures of the sorry excuse for a leader I am forced to call Mr. President, that is exactly what I have been trying to get YOU to do since you first popped in here making excuses for him and claiming you "dig a little deeper".

So once again let me suggest that if you really want to discuss any of Obama's successes, pick one and post it, assuming you can find one beyond his being tricked into killing bin Laden by Panetta and Clinton.

BTW: As a combat veteran who fought to preserve the way of life we share as a constitutional democratic republic. It is hardly "my comfort zone" to watch a narcissistic pathological liar continuously disregard our Constitution; arbitrarily restrict our freedoms; and systematically attempt to "radically transform" our country into a third rate European-style socialist democracy.

For that reason I will continue to expose this abject failure at every point I can until he is replaced, particularly when he provides "new material" every day.

The real question here is not "my comfort zone" but whether you are capable of posting anything that demonstrates you can actually think beyond the ObamaSpin you regurgitate or the snide comments that you persist in substituting for the substantive discussion you claim you want.

Based on what I have seen so far, I don't think you can.


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gacooke
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to hellababy

hellababy wrote:

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it . How about leaving your comfort zone sometime and posting on something other than the failures of your President ? 


What a hoot!

 

I know this might be tough for you, but try reading this thread from the beginning.  Maybe then, poor odie won't have to explain things for the umpteenth time to another mind-numbed liberal who will wander away when he realizes that his zombie-like belief in the power of his masters (er leaders) can't stand up to scrutiny.

 

The topic that was beyond your comprehension, where odie clearly demonstrated patrickh's love for the argument in the extreme (that logical fallacy which is a favorite of his, where he fabricates (that means lies) about what odies position really was) had nothing to do with the failures of your President.

 

The failure of your President is so pervasive in the political, economic and social reality of today that it is certainly understandable that you would fixate on that.

 

But that's not the only topic being discussed here.

 

 



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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to odiescoins

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it . How about leaving your comfort zone sometime and posting on something other than the failures of your President ? 

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odiescoins
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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

in reply to hellababy

hellababy wrote:

Have you removed your foot after your poor display with that other poster ? Talk about abject failure .


You know, hellababy, your latest post might even be laughable if it didn't once again demonstrate you don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about regarding that exchange.

Anyone who bothered to read post 11,562 will immediately recognize that "the other poster" whose name you don't even know (patrickh) pulled his usual stunt of distorting what I said and then launched off on another of his famous lectures based on a false premise.

And of course his failure to contest my calling him on his gross error left you high and dry with your foot in your mouth for butting in to a discussion with the asinine suggestion that "O.C. should give this one up."

The only abject failure I see at this point is your inability to even understand what happened and the only poor display I see is your refusal to admit you screwed up by even commenting in the first place.

 

The reality is you have now not only stuck your foot in your mouth but insist on chewing on it.

Would you like some mustard with your shoe leather?


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in reply to odiescoins

Have you removed your foot after your poor display with that other poster ? Talk about abject failure .

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odiescoins
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in reply to hellababy

hellababy wrote:

You must go to bed angry and wake up angry . :smileylol: Have a nice day sunshine .:smileyhappy:


Not angry at all but determined for you to learn to accept the consequences of your actions; something both you and the abject failure you support need to learn.

Since you want to talk about someone being schooled, did you really think that you could interject your snide comments into a discussion and not have any repercussions once your obvious lack of understanding about that discussion became obvious?

The simple fact is if you had stayed out of that discussion you would not be sitting here now trying so hard to have us ignore the obvious foot sticking out of your mouth.

Now I ask again are we ever going to see any post that demonstrates you "dig a little deeper" or that contains something we can discuss "off script"?

Obviously this one fails to even come close.


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Re: OT: Political Discussion... Please...

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You must go to bed angry and wake up angry . :smileylol: Have a nice day sunshine .:smileyhappy:

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And now back to one of Obama's greatest self-proclaimed "successes":

Thousands Who Enrolled in Obamacare Still Without Coverage
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obamacare-healthcare-exchanges-insurance/2014/07/08/id/581309#ixzz3...

Thousands of Americans who signed up for Obamacare by the March deadline continue to be without health insurance coverage due to backlogs and technical problems with enrollment systems, The Wall Street Journal reported.

In some states with state-run marketplaces, such as Massachusetts, California, and Nevada, consumers enrolled and paid for insurance plans but have since discovered they are not insured.

The irony here is that the Massachusetts Health Connector had been operating correctly for years until they tried to incorporate the screwed up provisions in ObamaCare.

And another $121 million later the state is still trying to implement a corrected system by November, over a year later than the original deadline.

BTW, hellababy, there's "something really good to discuss". When can we start?


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odiescoins
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hellababy wrote:

Nice . Did you send them out for grading ?


Talking about using "typical tactics", it sure looks like you are emulating the abject failure you support as president by thinking that diverting attention away from your failures will somehow make them go away.

Now, since you are obviously having difficulty finding "something really good to discuss", I suggest we start with Obama's latest "success" that has thousands of illegal immigrant children flooding across the same southern border he said was secure.

And while we are at it you can explain how spending $3.7 billion will actually do anything to solve the problem when he still refuses to seal the border.

See, it really isn't that difficult to find "something really good to discuss" if you pay attention to what is actually going on.

But then again paying attention to what was actually going on would have prevented you from putting your foot in your mouth in the first place.


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hellababy wrote:

Let me think of something really good to discuss and I'll get back to ya . 


You have been thinking about it for weeks.

 

Certainly it must be time to start putting your money where your mouth is instead of spending your time sniping at others with your posts that clearly demonstrate you don't know what you are talking about.

 

But then again that's no surprise since the abject failure you support as president has been spending the last 5+ years promising what he's "gunna do" while actually delivering very little.


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hellababy wrote:

Let me think of something really good to discuss and I'll get back to ya . 


I thought the topic was the ways that Obama has made America a stronger and more-respected nation.



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hellababy wrote:

Nice . Did you send them out for grading ?


That will be the responsibility of the auction house.

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Nice . Did you send them out for grading ?

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hellababy wrote:

How many Mads in the set ? Whats the # 1 worth ? I had a alot of them when I was a kid and I wish I still did !!


23 comic book Mads, issues 24-60 magazine Mads, all near mint. Plus annuals from the same era with original inserts.

 

What is a #1 worth? Hard to say. No one has one available. Ditto issue #5. And, as far as I know, all of the first 10 except #7.

 

If I wanted to sell, I'd auction them. Oddly enough, one of the great auction houses co-founders is a Mad aficionado. What one finds in the world of extreme condition rarities, it comes down to which billionaire flinches first.

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Let me think of something really good to discuss and I'll get back to ya . 

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