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larrythetakerguysback
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to gemdigger

gemdigger wrote:
Sorry, but I have a hard time giving up sovereignty of my country to the UN or any global organization, or shrugging it off as if it doesn't exist. I'd bet money that you haven't read the pdf file that I posted that is a copy of Agenda 21. Among other things, it is a plan for redistribution of wealth on a global scale, under the guise of the nebulous term of "sustainability", as determined by the UN, of course. Oh yeah, and we're supposed to give them lots of money to do it.

And these were the very same people that BO said he would not become...oh well...how "patriotic" of him...

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laddieboyblue
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to gemdigger

Why don't we just kick the UN out of the USA and stop giving them our share

of funding?  Oh I forget we've got to support the prostitutes, night clubs etc, etc, etc.

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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to granba
Sorry, but I have a hard time giving up sovereignty of my country to the UN or any global organization, or shrugging it off as if it doesn't exist. I'd bet money that you haven't read the pdf file that I posted that is a copy of Agenda 21. Among other things, it is a plan for redistribution of wealth on a global scale, under the guise of the nebulous term of "sustainability", as determined by the UN, of course. Oh yeah, and we're supposed to give them lots of money to do it.
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fly-joanie
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to earthlypursuits

well, yes op, it is real, they do exist, it should be a concern, but most don't believe, or do believe and don't care. speaking for myself, I'm in no position to do anything about it, so I'm leaning tward not caring, don't get me wrong, I value humanity and do see the danger to it, but I have to think about my own sanity now, and as I said, theres not a thing I could do if i wanted to. Too much going on with me on a local level, i can write a whole encyclapeda of books on small time corruption within the police departments. If I even look as though i might exersize my rights, they will come down hard on me, so i'm just another happy slave, least for now.

 

sides, most of the damage is done, i say let it play out, then gloat when proven right.

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granba
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to gemdigger

 

 

OMG

 

Gere we go round the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush  yet again. 

 

:smileysad:

 

Just take it with a grain of salt guys, ok.

 

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Re: Bilderberg 2014

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Also manufactured crises......climate change.......EEEEEEEEEEEKKKKK!

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laddieboyblue
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

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Good luck with that.  I wonder how long they think it'll last if this ever comes to fruition.  Remember the thousand year Reich?  The flame of freedom may dim and flicker but there always will be those who value freedom more than anything else.  Remember William Wallace in Brave Heart?  Remember Spartacus? Remember our revolutionary heroes?

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steppefjordwyfe10
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to earthlypursuits

Fair enough.

 

Thank you.



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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to earthlypursuits

Excellent, article, earthly.  It's pretty obvious to me that much of this is happening as we speak.  Especially the mind control through propaganda.

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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to steppefjordwyfe10

Sorry, I realized I hadn’t posted the author. The paperback is available on Amazon but the article should suffice.

 

Daniel Estulin

 

I don’t like to post links. The article is on globalresearch.ca

 

The link is longer but it shows up on search.

 

 

One paragraph:

 

“Whatever its early mission, the Group is now “a shadow world government….threaten(ing) to take away our right to direct our own destinies (by creating) a disturbing reality” very much harming the public’s welfare. In short, Bilderbergers want to supplant individual nation-state sovereignty with an all-powerful global government, corporate controlled, and check-mated by militarized enforcement.”

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steppefjordwyfe10
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to earthlypursuits

The only thing I've read once you posted this thread was on wiki.

 

I'll have to check it out.

 

I hope I'm not putting you on the spot and of course it's your choice, but can you post some things that he writes?  Or what is his name?  And if he is credible, you know not a journalist like the New York Times hires.



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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to steppefjordwyfe10

If interested, search “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group”.

 

There’s a long article. Some guy has been researching the group for years. It’s a bit outdated but still, even if partially true, I’m guessing Orwell would be horrified.

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steppefjordwyfe10
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

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in reply to earthlypursuits

You know I've heard references to Bilderberg but never paid it much attention until you posted this.  

 

I find it interesting so far, at least what they are concerned with as I understand it - American exceptionalism.

 

And something I don't understand, if anyone does not find it interesting, it isn't compulsory to read or participate if that is the true objection.



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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to granba

granba wrote:

 

 

Just go read it.  But be sure you read it as much as possible for what it really is, not  what FOX told you.  In fact when you search it, there will be several others that come up, read those as well.

 

I just hate to see anyone be fooled like this.  It happened enough the last go'round with this thing.

 

 

Here is the link to the pdf file of the original Agenda 21 document.  It wasn't written by FOX, or Beck, or some unknown author on wiki.  It can be read in full by anyone that wants to know what it says, although finding a clear meaning in much of the socialist double speak isn't easy.  I don't like it.

 

One more thing, stop telling me that I get my opinions on the news from FOX or any other network.  That is not true.  When possible, I go directly to the source.  When not possible, I read many different sources.  You are insinuating that I am stupid, and I don't like it.

 

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

 

 

 

 

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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to granba

What is “this thing”?

 

Agenda 21 is a subset of the Bilderberg agenda. Glad you read whatever IT is several years ago, and the world stood still. Wasn’t there a soap opera?

 

By your posts I do not believe you understand who the Bilderbergers are or the impact that entity has.  

 

It, this thing, this plan, without referent is meaningless. I am curious what “This thing was debunked..” and “This thing that is written was for the UN.” is though.

 

Please give me a reason to take your words for IT.

 

“This thing that is written was for the UN.  It has nothing to do with anything that would do what you think it says.  BUT for those people who are always looking to increase their fold of "believers" then without the correct interprettation and why it was written, it is perfect for that.”

 

Do you have any idea how incoherent that is?

 

I had hoped this thread would have been more intelligent and fun while highlighting some of the serious stuff going on. Hope and Change, yanno?

 

The annual meeting of the Bilderbergers has been around since 1954. Skull and Bones has only been around since 1832,

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granba
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to granba

 

 

Just go read it.  But be sure you read it as much as possible for what it really is, not  what FOX told you.  In fact when you search it, there will be several others that come up, read those as well.

 

I just hate to see anyone be fooled like this.  It happened enough the last go'round with this thing.

 

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granba
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

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OK I just searched it again using Agenda 21

 

It will bring up wilipedia with a short definiton, and then there are others you can log into but if you read their titles then you will understand.  By all means read the whole thing.  I see FPX is pushing this and Beck.  They must be light on the news to turn to this again.

 

Again, there is an agenda 21 but it isn't what FOX has been saying it is.

 

 

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granba
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to i.gather.so

granba

this thng was debunked heck 10=15 years ago.  But why waste a good conspiracy theory when so many people KNEW IT.  

 

This thing that is written was for the UN.  It has nothing to do with anything that would do what you think it says.  BUT for those people who are always looking to increase their fold of "believers" then without the correct interprettation and why it was written, it is perfect for that.

 

personally, I'll waste my time looking at Robert Redford's picture.  Far more conductive to positive things.

 

Now as for a worldwide group getting together...do you mean the UN or  are you talkin about these so-called people who are, will be, implementing this plan?  As i SAID THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW AND nothing HAS CHANGED. As I said, I read it several years ago.  If you are convinced, if you are leaning in that direction, if you just KNEW it, then you will fall for it.  I am here to tell you that other than being a plan for the UN which has nothing to do with what people are using i for (recruiting and control).  There are so many weasel words in it it pretty much doesn't say what people think it says.

 

But have fun.

 

:smileyhappy:

 

 

 

 

 

igather

 

Ya know,  I read that response last night and thought about commenting but figured, "why bother?"

 

I don't follow the doings of that group but instinctively I can recognize that when a powerful group of people with worldwide influence get together and make decisions, it will have some impact on all.

 

Why g would post in a way that implies she has some grasp on things like this is beyond me, other than purposefully being rude. It's funny how someone who continually talks about her inability to comprehend the simplest of computer/internet skills could presume to have information that would only come from the careful use of it.

 

It is very doubtful that they would view Obama as someone they need include anymore. 

 

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larrythetakerguysback
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to beadle_eze

beadle_eze wrote:

Why is everyone so testy today?  


About what exactly?

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larrythetakerguysback
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Re: Bilderberg 2014

in reply to granba

granba wrote:

 

 

larry

granba wrote:

 

 

gen, so-called "agenda 21" is a "special dream" for a conspiracy theorist

 

And that's all it is,,,although the extreme right wing are using it extremely well to their advantage with those who are alrady convinced.  I wish they would just stop, think, ask questions.

 

What is that old saying,,,well not quite so old

 

QUESTION EVERYTHIING

 

Good advice

 

 

 


Take your own advice...

 

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granba

what makes you think I don't?

 


According to your siggie you remember less?

We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. ABRAHAM LINCOLN

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