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birdcharm
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Registered: ‎10-12-2004

Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to valleyspirit*dvn

quote:  These are the ants we have to watch out for. Velvets. Just sharing because I think they are one of the most beautiful creatures. They are huge and their sting is very painful but they are not very toxic.

 

Pretty picture ... thanks!  Did you know that

"velvet ants" are actually wasps?

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birdcharm
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

4c4sale said:  But it certainly does make me

uncomfortable that molten metal is being poured

on living things I don't know why but it is an activity

that causes some discomfort to me is what is

being said here.

 

 

If you an asking for an apology from me about

sharing this art form, I am sorry to tell you that

I am unable to give you one.  It's an art form ...

one which I did not create, but something I found

interesting.  The fact that it does something of

interest with something that most find of nuisance

is simply an added embellishment. 

 

I can no more tell you what type of art to

like as you can tell me.  Art is art and if a type

of art brings you so much discomfort, please turn

your head away.  Some here thought this to be

interesting as I did, so it's really, imo, not 

something I feel I owe an apology for ... 

it seemed interesting to share, so I did.

 

Where I thought it reminded me of an

aluminum Christmas tree, my husband

thought it resembled a coral ... you see,

everyone has a different take on art.

 

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( Excerpt from http://arthistory.about.com/cs/reference/f/what_is_art.htm)

 

I could tell you that art plays a large part in making our

lives infinitely rich. Imagine, just for a minute, a world

without art!

 

Art stimulates different parts of our brains to make us

laugh or incite us to riot, with a whole gamut of emotions

in between.

 

Art gives us a way to be creative and express ourselves.

For some people, art is the entire reason they get out

of bed in the morning. You could say "Art is something

that makes us more thoughtful and well-rounded humans."

On the other hand, art is such a large part of our everyday

lives that we may hardly even stop to think about it.

Look at the desk or table where you are, right this minute.

Someone designed that. It is art. Your shoes are art.

Your coffee cup is art. All functional design, well done,

is art. So, you could say "Art is something that is both

functional and (hopefully) aesthetically pleasing to our eyes."

You might say "Art is in a constant state of change, so

nobody can really pin down what it is."  You might even

say "Art is subjective, and means something different to

every single person on earth."  This, too, is the truth.

 

 



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4c4sale
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Re: Ant Hill Art

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in reply to daltvila_420


daltvila_420 wrote:

If that is not right and if it has something

to do with something else posted elsewhere,

would it be better to go to that thread and

post a comment is that right or correct in this

case?

 

My feet itch. Is this the "Athletes Foot" board?


If your feet itch due to Fire Ant activity or because

there was molten metal poured on them and you are

a living thing I think this is the correct place to discuss

that yes but I think we need to defer to the author on

this question.  Do you have experience with Fire Ants

or molten metal or art because if so I believe this is

the correct venue or topic as they say here in this

instance do you think?  As I have said it makes me

squeamish but of course this is only my opinion so

that should be taken into consideration along with

the other excellent explanations and comments 

made here in the correct place.

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valleyspirit*dvn
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to valleyspirit*dvn

These are the ants we have to watch out for. Velvets. Just sharing because I think they are one of the most beautiful creatures. They are huge and their sting is very painful but they are not very toxic.

 

Velvet ant.jpg

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valleyspirit*dvn
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to birdcharm

bird wrote:

Only where they are naturally found ... humans messed with

nature and now the Fire Ants, for instance, are messing with us ...

but, it's kind of fun to see amazing art work pieces created from

their presence ... something positive from it anyway!

 

I like you line of thinking on that. 

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daltvila_420
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

If that is not right and if it has something

to do with something else posted elsewhere,

would it be better to go to that thread and

post a comment is that right or correct in this

case?

 

My feet itch. Is this the "Athletes Foot" board?

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valleyspirit*dvn
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Registered: ‎10-19-2008

Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to stewart4431

Yeah I'm sure they are fire ants. And "tunneling though" meant going through the cracks not eating through the wood. I'll see if I can find some places to take a pics of so of the damage they can do. If it every stops raining. No garentee of a pic of that this time of year but I will look around when I can.

 

Right now I have a problem with the tiny tiny ones. They started coming through a window when the creeks flooded this week. These are not harmful except I don't want them in my house. But I have noticed when the water rises and the weather is damp for days, they look for shelter.

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wvamart
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

How many times does the explainer have to explain?

 

And how many words?

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4c4sale
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Re: Ant Hill Art

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in reply to birdcharm


birdcharm wrote:

quote:  This topic reminds me of two others about invasive species begun recently by this topic's author, and I'm also thinking about a question that Katydid asked in one or both of the others.  Namely, what about our treatment of insects and the like?

 

This topic is about Ant Hill Art and Fire Ants ...

I understand you have an insect question, but

if it has to do with something someone else

posted elsewhere, wouldn't it be better to

go to that thread and post your comment?

How are they going to see it here?

... we don't know that they are reading
about the ant hill art, do we? (i.e., katydid

has not posted anything here.)

 


This is the topic about Ant Hill Art and Fire Ants

I think isn't it?  It has to do with that so is that

what we are discussing here?  I sure hope it is

because that seems to be what it is about if you

know what I mean and I think you must 

because you seem to know a lot about how

this kind of thing works...

I understand you wanted to discuss the invasive

insect known as the Fire Ant and how molten

metal is poured on them to make art is that

right?  If that is not right and if it has something

to do with something else posted elsewhere,

would it be better to go to that thread and

post a comment is that right or correct in this

case?  Otherwise how do we know if anyone

could know how the ants would feel if they

could feel about the art or who could read

about it if ants could read about the ant hill

art if it is art or do we?  (For example I know

that cats will stare at you sometimes but that

doesn't mean they can read or don't feel.)

But it certainly does make me uncomfortable 

that molten metal is being poured on living things

I don't know why but it is an activity that causes

some discomfort to me is what is being said here.

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daltvila_420
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Registered: ‎11-14-2013

Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to birdcharm

birdcharm wrote:

quote:  This topic reminds me of two others about invasive species begun recently by this topic's author, and I'm also thinking about a question that Katydid asked in one or both of the others.  Namely, what about our treatment of insects and the like?

 

This topic is about Ant Hill Art and Fire Ants ...

I understand you have an insect question, but

if it has to do with something someone else

posted elsewhere, wouldn't it be better to

go to that thread and post your comment?

How are they going to see it here?

... we don't know that they are reading

about the ant hill art, do we? (i.e., katydid

has not posted anything here.)

 

 


I have no problem with art created from a fire ant colonies home. An invasive species that has caused untold harm to the environment.

 

...doubt I'd feel the same about aluminum art created from a honeybee nest.

 

 

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birdcharm
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

quote:  Is it aceptable to pour molten metal on them and call it art?  

Is that what's happening here, or are these hills evacuated before the metal enters?

 

 

It looks like art to me ... seems better than using chemicals.

Also, ants don't have a nervous system, so it probably doesn't

matter to them ... perhaps they would enjoy their tunnels

and chambers as art, who is to know?

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birdcharm
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Registered: ‎10-12-2004

Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

quote:  This topic reminds me of two others about invasive species begun recently by this topic's author, and I'm also thinking about a question that Katydid asked in one or both of the others.  Namely, what about our treatment of insects and the like?

 

This topic is about Ant Hill Art and Fire Ants ...

I understand you have an insect question, but

if it has to do with something someone else

posted elsewhere, wouldn't it be better to

go to that thread and post your comment?

How are they going to see it here?

... we don't know that they are reading

about the ant hill art, do we? (i.e., katydid

has not posted anything here.)

 

 

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birdcharm
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Registered: ‎10-12-2004

Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to valleyspirit*dvn

quote:  Not only those things but fire ants like  to tunnel through wood and will

rip through it a little slower but more effectively than termites.

 

I'm pretty sure you are describing Carpenter Ants ... they build their

nests in damp wood and after they've tunneled through it enough,

it weakens the wood ... usually this is done in old trees, but if you

have any rotted wood or wood that wasn't treated and got wet, it

will attract them the same as it would termites. 

 


quote:  Ya'll know I dislike killing anything but fire ants have

always been a huge problem on this land.

 

I agree ... the Fire Ant kills our native ants, as well

as causing problems with animals small and large, birds,

reptiles, amphibians ... not to mention humans.  Although

an unpopular notion to some, there is a time to understand

that when we do not control introduced species, we are

actually killing something else that called this place home

before the invader took over ... if Fire Ants went unchecked,

I know none of us would care to see the results of our neglect. 

 

 

quote:  I believe they are not God children...

 

Only where they are naturally found ... humans messed with

nature and now the Fire Ants, for instance, are messing with us ...

but, it's kind of fun to see amazing art work pieces created from

their presence ... something positive from it anyway!

 

 

 

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stewart4431
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to valleyspirit*dvn

Valley wrote- - - - . Not only those things but fire ants like  to tunnel through wood and will rip through it a little slower but more effectively than termites.- - - - - Valley i'd have to see proof of that in writing since i've lived in fire ant country for over 40 yrs and have never seen or heard of them tunneling through wood. I can however envision them invading termite tunnels in times of extreme drought, but I haven't heard of that either.

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valleyspirit*dvn
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to birdcharm

Ya'll know I dislike killing anything but fire ants have always been a huge problem on this land. I'm not certain some know how dangerous they can be. And backwoods living calls for protecting you flocks and family. Even my great Grandfather use to talk about the ants here. There was a time I would have said ''Oh don't kill the ants." Then I moved here and completely understand the battle.

 

These will infect your body with poison with only a few bites. They all make a sore no matter who gets the bit. I have been on anti-biotics before because of them. My son is allergic and my grandchildren don't need the hassle. I kill them because they harm us. It's no different that killing a wolf who attacks your animals or a snake that bit you. Not only those things but fire ants like  to tunnel through wood and will rip through it a little slower but more effectively than termites. I believe they are not God childrens but rather the devil revenge. lol

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steppefjordwyfe10
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

I don't even want to mention what it reminds me of although it was always much more utilitarian than aesthetic with that bunch in the '40's.



"If it is once again one against forty-eight, then I am very sorry for the forty-eight." ~ Margaret Thatcher

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4c4sale
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to steppefjordwyfe10

Yup.  This "art" seems like the kind of thing Charlie Manson would dream up.

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steppefjordwyfe10
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Re: Ant Hill Art

in reply to 4c4sale

 

I've heard about and it is always the quite young boys who take a magnifying glass or something.  Never got why that would be enjoyable or cool but as they say, different strokes.   I imagine we can look forward to a host of topics with that eerie theme.

 

 



"If it is once again one against forty-eight, then I am very sorry for the forty-eight." ~ Margaret Thatcher

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4c4sale
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Re: Ant Hill Art

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in reply to steppefjordwyfe10


steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:

 

I've heard of making a mountain out of a mole hill but this is a new twist.  :womanvery-happy:


This topic reminds me of two others about invasive species begun recently by this topic's author, and I'm also thinking about a question that Katydid asked in one or both of the others.  Namely, what about our treatment of insects and the like?  Is it aceptable to pour molten metal on them and call it art?  Is that what's happening here, or are these hills evacuated before the metal enters?

 

Interesting also to speculate on why some may have a fascination with violent eradication.

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webuycrap
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