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Community Member
Posts: 824
Registered: ‎01-11-2009

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to dawn24bear

Very well said.    I have always told beginners to throw away their magnets and 10k test acid. 

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Posts: 5
Registered: ‎05-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to sweetchansonette

Broken Record...Broken Record....Broken Record...

The saga just continues on with the incorrect information concerning the "Magnet Testing". From YouTube videos, to internet postings, to our own eBay community postings and eBay guides. All the while us "More Educated & Hands On Experienced " individuals are just laughing non-stop...all the way to the bank!

While it is true that there is LOTS of the junk gold & silver jewelry on ebay that is continuously sold, people do need to realize that the "Magnet Test" is NOT the only decisive factor in determining whether or not a piece is sterling or karat gold. The magnet test is only used as one step in the process of content determination. I continuously read posts with "I have 20 and 30 plus years experience in gold & silver testing" or "I have been a jeweler all my life". Then these people continue to pass on incorrect and totally false information. 20 and 30 plus years experience I say? Sure is an awful long time to live in the dark I say!

I myself use a neodymium N52 rated magnet for the initial gold and silver testing. And just that- the initial testing. There is more steps involved in determination. If an acid testing kit, and the knowledge to properly use it, is not available in your tool kits then the incorrect diagnosis of "FAKE" must not be used.

That is just the same as your mechanic opening your car hood and saying you have a blown engine "that will be $4000.00 bucks please".

You say oh no, are you sure? Of course not more diagnosis steps MUST be used in proper determination.

Just a couple facts for you eBay viewers:

-The Neodymium "super magnets" are powerful enough to attract our U.S. currency bills due to the iron content within the ink.

-True Genuine .925 sterling silver and 10k gold does tarnish with age- "patina".

-The U.S. jewelry companies (and worldwide) have been experimenting with multiple formulas of  "shine forever without the polishing hassle"  dips & washes as far back as the mid 1915 period, and is still being done today. Could you just imagine owning a jewelry store with one thousand rings or more and having to remove and polish off the natural patina formations? Oh wow... Fun Time!!

-These experimantations of various dips & washes often times contain iron or nickel impurities- Enough to attract the "Super Magnets"

I am all for getting these fake precious metal crooks off eBay, as twice this year I have been stuck with junk and even went as far as submitting photos to eBay for them to see the Fake jewelry. To no avail- eBay removed the negative feedback I had left from the sellers records.

But before attempting to ruin the reputations of the honest sellers, those who consistently test & confirm metal contents, please please please be very well educated in correct precius metals testing. Before calling them crooks, theives, and want them arrested.

Thank you.  

Community Member
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎08-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to treasures4u2clinda
The clasp of the jewelry contains spring steel and will always be magnetic, but shouldn't be anywhere else.
Community Member
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎08-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to baergrub

The purity standards of silver such as 925 is an internation standard  established in the early 1800's (not a U.S. standard) and the counterfeiting is illegal everywhere. No one cares enough to fix the problem which is mostly from china where they been selling junk of all types: poisioned foods, lead in childrens toys and faulty tire for example. The U.S. owes them too much money so it's a fine to kill us and rip us off. They have started producing counterfeit jewelry with what they call white brass which is mixed with a high zinc content for color and it's not manetic. When in dought, don't buy anything made in china.

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎04-28-2015

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to micemom
Unfortunately, these sellers simply resurface under a new identity in no time. Sadly, would-be honest ebay sellers buy this stuff in large quatities and resell based on the assumption that the product purchased was authentic.
It isn't simply avoiding off-shore sellers that becomes the issue, it's purchasing from US sellers that are not aware they are selling counterfeit goods.
I purchased a large number of "925" ear wires several years ago to incorporate into my handmade jewelry for sale. I was fortunate to notice the "silver" flaking away from the copper before I placed any items on the market.
By the time these items reach us from across the world, we have limited time or no time to report the seller for our own reimbursement, but perhaps we can help the next person by reporting it?
The cycle resumes as before.
All we can do is hope buyers will visit these posts for education and take it to heart.
Community Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎11-15-2013

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to micemom

I have told Ebay , Numerous Sellers from other countrys are doing this all the time, and Ebays Does Nothing to them.. Fake Silver is Wrong , just because their country has no Laws on the Metals and there Purity , does not give them the right to sell it in USA , where we do have Standards and Laws against it

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎03-04-2015

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to micemom

Hi

 

Thank you for this information. You are right. We should keep reporting the seller are not honest. Recently I reported the seller because the item is not pure sterling and also most of the diamonds are fake, the ones are not fake very low quality. But he is threathing me, harrasing me. It is awful the way he is attacking me. I did not answer. I am going to report him. We do not have to go throught this. I do not think that he is going to refund my money.

 

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎02-09-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to rachelmoira

I have had sterling from other countries that is not sterling.  The lady wondered how eBay could endorse this.  Ebay doesn't know about these fake sellers unless we tell them.  I repeatedly turned sellers in who told me the jewelry was sterling and all that was sterling was the findings.  Eventually the sellers I complained about no longer sell on eBay.  Now there are some new sellers doing the same bad thing.  Always notify eBay if you have concerns.  If they get enough emails about the same company they will surely investigate.

Community Member
Posts: 17
Registered: ‎08-14-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to hummingbird4450

NO TRUE Silver or .25 is Silver over brass or it would not be at least 92.5% pure

 

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-15-2014

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to rachelmoira

Mexican silver is not silver over brass. I don't know where you get your information. It is wrong.

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎03-05-2011

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to lenorep

"Nickle is Magnetic?"

 

Yes!! At room temperature even. Here is a link to the "Nickle Institute":

http://www.nickelinstitute.org/en/NickelUseInSociety/AboutNickel/NickelMetaltheFacts.aspx

 

It is absolutely important to take all posts with a little "That might not be true" as the person who said it was not obviously lied, either unknowingly, or with intent. Make sure you double check all claims yourself out on that big old internet. "Is Nickle Magnetic" will bring you to people who know the truth: Yes, very.

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Posts: 1,985
Registered: ‎07-24-2005

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to bwrighttwo

Thank You.. I learn something new everyday Smiley Happy

Community Member
Posts: 824
Registered: ‎01-11-2009

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to rain777blue

They used 18k gold test acid.

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Community Member
Posts: 1,985
Registered: ‎07-24-2005

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to treasures4u2clinda

This may sound like a stupid question. However I have an item that does NOT attract a magnet, I had someone do an acid test streak test , I do not know what acid used, the item is over 50 years old, and I saw the streak on his stone turn bright blue ? He said it is heavy silver content, but did not know what percent. It is a hefty item.

Why did it not turn red?

Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎03-19-2014

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique
Hello,
I have been using the magnet test for a long time. I have found with some pieces the tiny loops that connect the jewelry will stick when the main item does not, I have also found that the posts backs will cause the whole earring to stick. I was checking into another way to test Sterling and ran in to this. I just sold a lot of Sterling Hoop Earrings and was contacted by buyer that three of the hoops were not Sterling. So, I also do not know for sure until I find out what other tests there are for this. I hope you can find this out, as it also is confusing me a lot.
Linda

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Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-15-2011

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique

As far as the clasps sticking to the magnet, it is not necessarily because the clasp is fake. The clasps have springs in them and the springs are made of metal so the spring in the clasp will attract the magnet.

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-06-2010

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique

I know the feeling I am going through the same thing, I have pieces that are clearly marked sterling but the magnet sticks to it, and some that are not markd but tested sterling and do not stick to it, I am as well totally confused, thanks for your thouhgts on this, I dont feel so bad,

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎02-04-2014

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique
The clasps stick to magnets because the spring has to be made of steel!!!! But if you think it's fake please sell it to me scrappdo83 I'll take that risk
Community Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎08-08-2010

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to rachelmoira
Mexican silver is NOT silver plate over brass. Don't know where you heard that, but that is incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_standards

When we switched from sourcing and having jewelry made in Thailand to Mexico in the early 2000's, most of the Mexican producers only made .950 pieces. We had to request .925 to keep consistency and lower the cost a little.

I've asked several Italian factories why some sterling silver chains made in Italy are attracted to magnets and they said those are made previous to the year 2000, when nickel was still commonly used.
Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎01-22-2014

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to lenorep

Yes, Nickel, Cobalt, Iron (ther ferromagnetic metals) and Gadolinium (at room temperature).