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Registered: ‎09-17-2016

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique
Copper does NOT attract magnets. Makers of fine sterling silver pieces do not mix magnetic metals in with the silver. But now adays the market is flooded with cheap sterling from China, Thailand, etc that they sell for pennies because the actual silver content is only a plating or very little if at all mixed in just to give it the look of Sterling but for resale value there is nobvalue because when you try to take it to a reputable resale or for melting you will be told that silver is worthless. So even though the item might be very cute and look good and be a very nice jewelry item to wear there is no value in it for people who see purchasing sterling silver jewelry as an investment.
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Registered: ‎05-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to dawn24bear
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Registered: ‎05-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to mandaarthur

Hi,

There sure is alot of confusion concerning the jewelry magnet test. I am all for getting the truly fake, plated precious metals off eBay myself. The biggest problem with this issue is the continuous repetitiveness of incorrect information, and incorrect testing methods. This spreads like wildfire all over the net. This truly does damage the honest eBay sellers who truly know what we sell & fully test our items before offering them.

I have finished part one of 3 guides for proper silver & gold testing, and is being shown mainly through macro photos during the testing procedures. I will attempt to cover multiple types of gold & silver jewelry,various test procedures, as well as magnetically attracted white golds, vermeils, and antique to vintage pieces as well. Please click on my user ID & it will take you to my "Me" page. At the bottom you will find the link to my (part one) jewelry testing guide.

If anyone has thoughts as to additions for the future guides please send me a message.

Thank you-  Brad-  dawn24bear 

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Registered: ‎07-12-2016

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique

I just want to say thanks for posting this and for everyone's input. It's put me at ease!

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Posts: 3
Registered: ‎10-10-2008

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique
There are rules for ebay sellers selling fake gold or silver...so why isn't it a standard rule for other countries who sell on ebay as well?
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Registered: ‎01-18-2016

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to debs_younique_boutique
When performing the acid testing, will this destroy the jewelry?
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Registered: ‎01-11-2009

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

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in reply to catzpawz65

Yes I have seen this as well. I have also seen this to raise the stone so it would fit the height of bezel used.

 

Most use saw dust or cork for this.

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Registered: ‎02-22-2005

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to volemus

A piece of info I picked up yesterday researching Native American jewelry and the Sterling/Not Sterling dilemma.  Turquoise, especially with a lot of matrix, can crumble over time, unless backed behind the cabochon.  Native artists used what they had on hand, and sometimes it was a piece of metal that does in fact react to a strong magnet.  The silver work, and the smooth back of a pendant (or ring) may very well be Sterling silver. 

 

I am so far from being an expert, it's not funny.  My newly acquired vintage pendant is gorgeous.  I frankly don't care if it is/is not .925 sterling.  I've worn it against my bare skin with no reaction, and I'm one who had to get rid of my white gold jewelry as I'm so allergic. 

 

Yes, there are other alloys.  But I've not yet seen a vintage 60's/70's elaborate Navajo silverwork made from Alpacca or German silver.  And it may be a lesser silver than .925, maybe .800 for example. 

 

So, it's beautiful, I love it, it evidently does not contain nickel,  and I paid very little for it.  I feels like silver, looks like silver, patinates like silver, and smells like silver.  This is just a FYI, as I mentioned ,I am a jewelry lover, not a jewelry expert. 

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Registered: ‎11-15-2004

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to bwrighttwo

Heart

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Registered: ‎01-11-2009

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to volemus

Touche'.....I really did not feel like going too deep.  Thanks 

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Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to bwrighttwo

From what I gather, a hallmark is a stamp that has historically expressed metal purity and content, as opposed to who the manufacturer was. So, not really just any stamp.

 

Corrections welcome, as always.

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Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to gemcollector59

Stamped.

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Registered: ‎07-09-2015

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to dseabound2911

What is Hallmarked?

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Registered: ‎01-11-2009

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to dawn24bear

Very well said.    I have always told beginners to throw away their magnets and 10k test acid. 

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Registered: ‎05-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to sweetchansonette

Broken Record...Broken Record....Broken Record...

The saga just continues on with the incorrect information concerning the "Magnet Testing". From YouTube videos, to internet postings, to our own eBay community postings and eBay guides. All the while us "More Educated & Hands On Experienced " individuals are just laughing non-stop...all the way to the bank!

While it is true that there is LOTS of the junk gold & silver jewelry on ebay that is continuously sold, people do need to realize that the "Magnet Test" is NOT the only decisive factor in determining whether or not a piece is sterling or karat gold. The magnet test is only used as one step in the process of content determination. I continuously read posts with "I have 20 and 30 plus years experience in gold & silver testing" or "I have been a jeweler all my life". Then these people continue to pass on incorrect and totally false information. 20 and 30 plus years experience I say? Sure is an awful long time to live in the dark I say!

I myself use a neodymium N52 rated magnet for the initial gold and silver testing. And just that- the initial testing. There is more steps involved in determination. If an acid testing kit, and the knowledge to properly use it, is not available in your tool kits then the incorrect diagnosis of "FAKE" must not be used.

That is just the same as your mechanic opening your car hood and saying you have a blown engine "that will be $4000.00 bucks please".

You say oh no, are you sure? Of course not more diagnosis steps MUST be used in proper determination.

Just a couple facts for you eBay viewers:

-The Neodymium "super magnets" are powerful enough to attract our U.S. currency bills due to the iron content within the ink.

-True Genuine .925 sterling silver and 10k gold does tarnish with age- "patina".

-The U.S. jewelry companies (and worldwide) have been experimenting with multiple formulas of  "shine forever without the polishing hassle"  dips & washes as far back as the mid 1915 period, and is still being done today. Could you just imagine owning a jewelry store with one thousand rings or more and having to remove and polish off the natural patina formations? Oh wow... Fun Time!!

-These experimantations of various dips & washes often times contain iron or nickel impurities- Enough to attract the "Super Magnets"

I am all for getting these fake precious metal crooks off eBay, as twice this year I have been stuck with junk and even went as far as submitting photos to eBay for them to see the Fake jewelry. To no avail- eBay removed the negative feedback I had left from the sellers records.

But before attempting to ruin the reputations of the honest sellers, those who consistently test & confirm metal contents, please please please be very well educated in correct precius metals testing. Before calling them crooks, theives, and want them arrested.

Thank you.  

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Registered: ‎08-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to treasures4u2clinda
The clasp of the jewelry contains spring steel and will always be magnetic, but shouldn't be anywhere else.
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Registered: ‎08-02-2007

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to baergrub

The purity standards of silver such as 925 is an internation standard  established in the early 1800's (not a U.S. standard) and the counterfeiting is illegal everywhere. No one cares enough to fix the problem which is mostly from china where they been selling junk of all types: poisioned foods, lead in childrens toys and faulty tire for example. The U.S. owes them too much money so it's a fine to kill us and rip us off. They have started producing counterfeit jewelry with what they call white brass which is mixed with a high zinc content for color and it's not manetic. When in dought, don't buy anything made in china.

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Registered: ‎04-28-2015

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to micemom
Unfortunately, these sellers simply resurface under a new identity in no time. Sadly, would-be honest ebay sellers buy this stuff in large quatities and resell based on the assumption that the product purchased was authentic.
It isn't simply avoiding off-shore sellers that becomes the issue, it's purchasing from US sellers that are not aware they are selling counterfeit goods.
I purchased a large number of "925" ear wires several years ago to incorporate into my handmade jewelry for sale. I was fortunate to notice the "silver" flaking away from the copper before I placed any items on the market.
By the time these items reach us from across the world, we have limited time or no time to report the seller for our own reimbursement, but perhaps we can help the next person by reporting it?
The cycle resumes as before.
All we can do is hope buyers will visit these posts for education and take it to heart.
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Posts: 5
Registered: ‎11-15-2013

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to micemom

I have told Ebay , Numerous Sellers from other countrys are doing this all the time, and Ebays Does Nothing to them.. Fake Silver is Wrong , just because their country has no Laws on the Metals and there Purity , does not give them the right to sell it in USA , where we do have Standards and Laws against it

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎03-04-2015

Re: Sterling Silver vs the magnet test

in reply to micemom

Hi

 

Thank you for this information. You are right. We should keep reporting the seller are not honest. Recently I reported the seller because the item is not pure sterling and also most of the diamonds are fake, the ones are not fake very low quality. But he is threathing me, harrasing me. It is awful the way he is attacking me. I did not answer. I am going to report him. We do not have to go throught this. I do not think that he is going to refund my money.