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Posts: 3,951
Registered: ‎10-14-2008

Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

elheron-grande wrote:

Holas to fellow chatting board folks.  Since Heron began chatting on the original

Coin Chat Board in January 1999 plus having mucho fun on this most recent version

of coin chatting, there have been many discussions about folks buying coins or bullion. 

 

Actually we have discussed the fact that many folks buy gold coins & coin bullion not

knowing what they are buying.  And not knowing the true value of said items.

 

Heron is going to report some informacion that he believes to be of interest.

If anyone disagrees, please contact the authors of this article to register any

complaints.  Heron merely passes along the info. 

 

Perhaps some of youse AARP members have already seen this article.  Perhaps

not?

 

Article in the AARP Magazine August - Sept 2016 issue.

 

Article entitled 'All That Glitters...........' ,writ by Doug Shadel & Joe Eaton.

 

 


yep... good article...

Community Member
Posts: 2,319
Registered: ‎07-17-2011

Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to rottnrog

Hola Rottn: your post of 19 Octember 2011 - 2130: Some of us did manage

to find this chatting place after the original coin chat board was exterminated!

Hope you are having fun with coin collecting.  Heron.

 

xx

Community Member
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

Holas to fellow chatting board folks.  Since Heron began chatting on the original

Coin Chat Board in January 1999 plus having mucho fun on this most recent version

of coin chatting, there have been many discussions about folks buying coins or bullion. 

 

Actually we have discussed the fact that many folks buy gold coins & coin bullion not

knowing what they are buying.  And not knowing the true value of said items.

 

Heron is going to report some informacion that he believes to be of interest.

If anyone disagrees, please contact the authors of this article to register any

complaints.  Heron merely passes along the info. 

 

Perhaps some of youse AARP members have already seen this article.  Perhaps

not?

 

Article in the AARP Magazine August - Sept 2016 issue.

 

Article entitled 'All That Glitters...........' ,writ by Doug Shadel & Joe Eaton.

 

This article reports about a woman that saw one a those cable TV ads for gold

bullion.  When she contacted that advertiser she was sold on buying 'collector'

gold coins.  However, she actually paid $600 more than actual market value

for each of said coins.  She purchased 14 $20 Dollar USofAmerigo coins.

 

So, she is out of pocket for $600 X 14.  She did not know anything about gold

coins. 

 

Should she have researched?  Of course.  However, one way to learn, and fast,

is to lose $8400 on one transaction. 

 

And we continue onward trying to splain to folks about researching FIRST and

then buy. 

 

Apparently we are LOSING this war against ignorance. 

 

Makes one wonder what is being taught in schools nowadays.

Especially when high school chirren do NOT know where the name of the USA

originated.  Amazing!

 

Regardos. 

Community Member
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to gairoberso0

it's a fact that one sold for that much... apparently at least two bidders thought it was worth that much...

 

is it truly *worth* that much? not IMO...

 

the short story: around 2006 a PCGS graded MS70 2003 cent went for over $13k on Teletrade...

Community Member
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to gairoberso0

gairoberso0 wrote:
I need help. I have a 1901 morgan. VF condition. How's the value?

assuming it's a no-problem coin, $25-50 range...

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to impalajohnny
Is it true that a 2003 penny is worth over 13,000
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to impalajohnny
I need help. I have a 1901 morgan. VF condition. How's the value?
Community Member
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to tdziemianowicz

Holas to coin collectors!  This informacion is world coin info.  In particular it is

info re Danemark Roskilde coinage.

 

We had discovered that perhaps the oldest 'dated' coin of Europa was a Roskilde coin

dated 1234.

 

Well, this morning [25 Agosto] as Heron was researching several Euro Zentral coins he ran across

some info regarding the Roskilde Penning of 1234.

 

The info was that this IS the earliest dated coin of Europa.

 

In VF it was valued at Euros 33,500.  In Danish Kroner it was 250,000.

 

Heron will most likely NOT acquire this particular coin.  For Euro 33,500 Heron can buy

enough HRE coins to perhaps reach 500 different Euro Zentral! 

 

Info source: BruunRasmussen.

 

Heron found this info by punching in to Googly "Coins Roskilde". 

 

Coin collecting continues to be the best of all hobbies.  Opinion.

 

XX

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to *smedley*

Yes, el Heron is still alive!   Agosto has been busy for el Heron.  Starting off with

purchasing a new set of eye glasses! 

 

Also searching for and acquiring some items that will be reported on this now not

so very lively chattingboard..

 

xx

 

 

Community Member
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

*tap* *tap* *tap* 

 

is this thing on?

 

4 days and no posts...

 

 

Community Member
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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to tdziemianowicz

Hola TDZ - thank you for correcting Heron's error.  Mrs Heron has this afternoon made an

appertment at the Eye Doc for old Heron.  Yes, it is tungsten, although Heron thought that

was a city in China where certain items mentioned in article are minted...!

Ah yes, remember that these are the Golden Years.  A term thought up by a 20 year old

marketing 'intern' on summer internship.  nyuk!

 

Regardos.

 

And remember Don Coyote! 

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to tdziemianowicz

I pulled up the article.  It's tungsten they are using in counterfeits.

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

elheron-grande wrote:

 

Holas coin collecting Amigos:  There have been many comentarios on the coin chatting

board regarding counterfeit coins. 

 

And now, a PAGE ONE headline & article in the 8 Agosto 2016 issue of Wall Streak

Journal.  Article on Page A-1 and writ by Stephanie Yang:

 

Headline "Fool's Gold: Counterfeits Abound".

 

In addition to the written article there is a pic of a South African gold coin with 2 comentarios

on how to detect the fake coin.

 

However, the comment that interested elHeron was that the counterfeiters are now using

TITANIUM to make up for 'lost weight' when using other 'pot-metals' in the manufacturing

of the counterfeit gold coins. 

 

Apparently Titanium is very close to the weight of gold.  Heron cannot say because he is

an electrico-mechanical guy and not a metals guy. 

 



That sounded strange to me, and indeed, the density of titanium is only 4.43 g/cm3, compared to over 19 for gold.

 

We had a guy with metallurgy knowledge who used to post here, if I recall correctly .... Maybe he could shed some light.

 

 

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

 

Holas coin collecting Amigos:  There have been many comentarios on the coin chatting

board regarding counterfeit coins. 

 

And now, a PAGE ONE headline & article in the 8 Agosto 2016 issue of Wall Streak

Journal.  Article on Page A-1 and writ by Stephanie Yang:

 

Headline "Fool's Gold: Counterfeits Abound".

 

In addition to the written article there is a pic of a South African gold coin with 2 comentarios

on how to detect the fake coin.

 

However, the comment that interested elHeron was that the counterfeiters are now using

TITANIUM to make up for 'lost weight' when using other 'pot-metals' in the manufacturing

of the counterfeit gold coins. 

 

Apparently Titanium is very close to the weight of gold.  Heron cannot say because he is

an electrico-mechanical guy and not a metals guy. 

 

However, apparently the long used method of weights will no longer be a good method

of detecting counterfeit gold coins.  Titanium was the answer!

 

The article also mentioned that the counterfeiters are becoming very good at 'die making'.

 

In addition, the article also mentioned that many unsuspecting buyers, especially at 'flea-

markets' in the USofA are being fleeced. 

 

Perhaps it is 'time' for us to resurrect our various 'plans' for educating the folks in the USA

regarding counterfeits.  Another chanza to joust with windmills, quizas? Quien Sabe?

 

Don Coyote!  

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to tdziemianowicz

Hola TDZ - your post of 1 Agosto 2016 1644 hrs:  Yes, it would be very interesting to see

a coin dated 1476.   Absolutamente!  

 

Heron was pleased to find that 'list' sorda accidental.  Some of those coins will be put on

Heron's 'want lists'.  Especially Schoonvorst...!  Acquiring one just for the 'name' alone would

be a big treat. ha!   The Roskilde is of Danemark and would also be a Europa Central coin.

 

It appears that the more we 'learn' the more fun we have with this coin hobby! 

Heron is having mucho fun!  

 

Regardos.

 

 

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

elheron-grande wrote:

 

From time to time, some of the coin chatting board folks will chat about the 'dated'

coins of Europa.

 

On 26 Julio 2016 Heron stumbled across an internet site that is quite interesting.

 

Early Dated Coins of Europe [online adaptation of the Frey Catalog].

 

Here is some info [not verified or confirmed by el Heron]:

 

Earliest dated coins of Europe:

 

1234 - Roskilde.

1372 - Schoonvorst.

1372 - Aachen.

1424 - Switzer.

1437 - Groningen.

1456 - Austria.

1480 - Forli [Italiano].

1499 - Hungary.

1504 - Glogau Poland.

1525 - Bohemia.

1548 - English Shilling of Eduardo VI - dated thusly = MDXLVIII.

 

Heron has not seen pics of any of these coins.

 

There was a comentario on the 'site' that the English very quickly ended the use of Roman Numerals on coins.

 

Another comentario: The dates on some of the coins were in numerals that we of the 21st Century would not

recognize.  Old German Gothic numeral designs and some in modified Arabic numerals.

 

Howsever, the title of subject is 'early dated coins of Europe' and is thus.

 

Regardos.


I was not aware of dated coins from Europe earlier than 15th century.  Thanks for the list!

 

Because the Low Countries (Groningen for example) were early adopters, and I collect Brabant, I have a few from before 1500.  I think my earliest is 1476.  Maybe I have a photo somewhere.

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to *smedley*

*smedley* wrote:

bought a mixed lot of US silver for one coin...

 

one of the remainder, which i was planning to resell, appears to be a Fair-2 01-S quarter...

 

it's going to NGC...


update just posted...

 

it's authentic... Fair-2...

 

Smiley HappySmiley HappySmiley HappySmiley HappySmiley HappySmiley HappySmiley HappySmiley Happy

Community Member
Posts: 2,319
Registered: ‎07-17-2011

Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to elheron-grande

 

From time to time, some of the coin chatting board folks will chat about the 'dated'

coins of Europa.

 

On 26 Julio 2016 Heron stumbled across an internet site that is quite interesting.

 

Early Dated Coins of Europe [online adaptation of the Frey Catalog].

 

Here is some info [not verified or confirmed by el Heron]:

 

Earliest dated coins of Europe:

 

1234 - Roskilde.

1372 - Schoonvorst.

1372 - Aachen.

1424 - Switzer.

1437 - Groningen.

1456 - Austria.

1480 - Forli [Italiano].

1499 - Hungary.

1504 - Glogau Poland.

1525 - Bohemia.

1548 - English Shilling of Eduardo VI - dated thusly = MDXLVIII.

 

Heron has not seen pics of any of these coins.

 

There was a comentario on the 'site' that the English very quickly ended the use of Roman Numerals on coins.

 

Another comentario: The dates on some of the coins were in numerals that we of the 21st Century would not

recognize.  Old German Gothic numeral designs and some in modified Arabic numerals.

 

Howsever, the title of subject is 'early dated coins of Europe' and is thus.

 

Regardos.

Community Member
Posts: 3,951
Registered: ‎10-14-2008

Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

in reply to jesusrocks3339

jesusrocks3339 wrote:

*smedley* wrote:

cool... status changed to Scheduled for Grading...


it can be tough waiting for that box of goodies to come back from NGC, sometimes I peek and call to get more info.

 

You probably know this but once you find out that they are graded (or to find out if they are) they may tell you how they panned out.  Or of course you can check by using the invoice number and adding a dash and 001, 002, etc

 

hoping for the best for you (cheesy smily face)

 


thanks... t'ain't my first rodeo...

 

you can also use their online Order Status tool to check... easier and quicker than calling or using the cert checker...

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Re: --THE NEW COIN CHAT ROOM--

[ Edited ]
in reply to *smedley*

*smedley* wrote:

cool... status changed to Scheduled for Grading...


it can be tough waiting for that box of goodies to come back from NGC, sometimes I peek and call to get more info.

 

You probably know this but once you find out that they are graded (or to find out if they are) they may tell you how they panned out.  Or of course you can check by using the invoice number and adding a dash and 001, 002, etc

 

hoping for the best for you (cheesy smily face)