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12-02-2014 10:45 AM
"Post what is on your mind"... The theme of the New Coin Chat Room.
Here is some numismaticks info that Heron found by accidente. Some of the best
discoveries are by accident, at times, perhaps?.
Heron 'found' a web site about history of middle ages coins and also etymology of coin
names [currency/denominations]. Always of interest to Heron and possibly others,
especially collectors of HRE coins.
A note: some of the middle ages coin experts will most likely already know a lot or
all of this info.
The following was borrowed from wiki/munzen_des_mittelalters:
Another note: Heron used the computer translation 'service' rather than
translating all of this hisself. So, there will be some phrases that appear
rather strange to the English speakers amongst us.
"European Coins of the Middle Ages"...excerpts:
"From late antiquity through to the early Middle Ages the circulation of
went coins in Europe back strong."
[Heron: On to Etymology which is Heron's interest here]
HELLER: "The Heller was coined in 1200 in Schwabisch Hall, which
derives its name". [In the beginning this coin was also known as the Haller].
CRUISER: "The Cruiser had its name from the double cross on the front.
It was abolished in the currency changeover 1873".
[Heron: of course this refers to the currency Kruezer...!]
SCHILLING: "The origin of the word Schilling is not released safely.
It is also conceivable deriviation is from a Germanic Skildulingaz, which
would mean "shield-like thing'' or "sign-ling"."
"LUMP": For the first time in 1492 and subsequently to 1850 in Bern marked.
Was named after valerius anshelm the heraldic animal of the canton, the
bear or batz which was printed on the reverse of coin. The origin of the term
is not secured. The value of a Bernese Batzens [their spelling, not Heron's]
corresponded to four cruisers."
....."Value information can be finally no, since the production of the coins of
precious metal content fluctuated, ie, in practice over time decreased. The owner
of the local RIGHT TO MINT COINAGE [Their caps - not Heron's]... melted
especially a foreign quality coins to mint their own coins from reduced fineness".
[Ha! Heron's comentario]
"The difference between the known up to that time silver or gold content to the
new lower value could reap as winning the Munzenrechtsinhaber." [Note: the
translation 'service' did not translate Munzenrechtsinhaber. Heron translates
this compound noun as being 'owner of coinage rights'. It could have another
'meaning' such as 'winning the lottery'! ??
All collectors and folks interested in coins & coin terminology are invited to comment.
Also those with various views on the subject. Heron thought that this information
might be helpful or interesting to some collectors. Quien sabe? [who knows?] Regardus,
11-04-2014 02:52 AM
1952 was a very good year for me. I was born. In 1967 I started my search for a silver USA Washington 25-cent piece in VG+ grade. After all these years of searching I may have found one. Oh, the joy!
11-03-2014 05:18 PM
1954 was a good year for me. My late father was Executive Officer of the Norfolk Naval Air Station and I was in 4th grade at an exclusive private school the Norfolk Academy. I played in Little League and football on the school team complete with uniforms. I rode around with my father after Hurricane Hazel inspecting the damage to the base. Sometimes with a few friends we'd sneak into the area where they stored vintage airplanes and played pilot. I got my first Lionel train set; a switch engine. It was one year later that I started collecting coins and rode the train with my late mother from Quantico to Washington to go to a coin shop and to collect Dinky Toys. Life was good. I only wished I'd also had collected MPC's back then. I had military field radio or I should say my father had one by Hallicrafters. While at Quantico a visiting British army major gave me a pouch of the coins he collected on his travels. I still have them.
11-02-2014 05:57 PM
Hola Ted200: He is now on 1970! That was also a good year for Heron. Heron quit smoking
cigarettes and ceegars that year! It was also a very good 'sales' year for Heron... Ha!
Remembering significant years ...
Let's see ... 1980 first time living abroad ... 1981 marriage... 1989 first child (yeah, being of Polish descent it took me a while to figure that out ). 1992 second child. 1997 got transferred to Europe ... 1999 my interest in numismatics was rekindled by a work colleague telling me about a Brussels auction house.
All downhill from there!
BTW you guys said the nicest things a few posts back.
And yes, Coins and Soapbox both comatose these days, if not nearly muerte.
But we have elections and a Republican congress just around the corner! That should liven things up.
10-22-2014 10:13 AM
1956 feedback! Reminds Heron of the year 1956. A friend of the family happened to be
a member of the 'draft board'. Notified us that Heron's number was being called in 30 days.
Heron went to the Air Force recruiter - one year waiting list.
Then the Navy recruiter - 9 months waiting list.
Then, as Heron was departing the building, he saw a small sign that said US Coast Guard.
Heron remember that an uncle was in the USCG during WWII.
Heron went in that office and asked how long was the waiting list?
An older Chief Petty Officer answered, "When do you want to enlist". Heron answered, right now!
The 30 year CPO remarked 'trying to beat the draft ey?'...
So, Heron listened to the different programs and signed a 6 year contract in order to attend a 6
months training school after basic training. One a the best things Heron ever did!
As for Heron contributing to the 'soapbox' commentarios, there is not much interest in that project.
The 'right' will still be the 'right'.
The 'left' will still be 'leftists'.
Nothing ever gets resolved. Just a lot of 'sniping' back and forth regarding politicks. Yikes!
Heron would much rather discuss coins, tokens, and paper money.
Although it appears that this chatting bjord could be headed towards muerte!
10-18-2014 08:45 PM
odiescoins, ga_cooke, laddieboy, silverfox, jeff, and I all post over there on and off...
There's a few more of us,
Just not on the A team.
Even some on the XX team
10-18-2014 09:32 AM - edited 10-18-2014 09:35 AM
Ted, can you provide a link to the Soapbox?
It is also in it's death throes.
10-18-2014 08:28 AM
Hola Ted200: your post of 18 Oct 2014 0249 hrs: Yes, Heron agrees regarding being
advised re errors in listings. It is almost impossible for any seller to know ALL things
about all items. Some sellers did appreciate receiving correct info and some did not
appreciate that! Nowadays aggravation can be avoided by not saying a word. ha!
10-18-2014 02:49 AM
Holas Amigos! A question for our large group of coin & papermoney aficionados:
What do youse do when an obvious listing error is detected?
Por ejemplo: Heron was perusing the German States listings and found a listing for
a 1 Pfennig copper coin claiming it was a Prussian coin.
It was not! There is no legend and coin is identified by the 'coat of arms' on obverse.
The coat of arms for that coin was absolutely Waldeck-Pyrmont! Heron knows this
because he has coins from both of those coin issuing authorities. Plus the catalog
The 2nd obvious error in the same listings group was a coin listed as GERMAN STATES
6 Pence 1942. The coin depicted Geo VI of England! [Or Gran Britannia if youse prefers].
The last time Heron offered advise was about the year 2000. In return for Heron's assistance
in identifying an item he received about 15 nastygrams.
Since that time, Heron has not offered his assistance to any seller.
Have things changed? Is it ok to offer assistance now? Just curious is Heron!
I'll sometimes message them, but usually not anymore... it just depends on if I think they deserve any help. I always appreciate it when users contact me if I've got some screw up in a listing though...
10-18-2014 02:45 AM
Nice job on the C&PM Board, by the way. I see that people are using it to the tune of as many as two or even three posts a day!
Well, that's to be expected, they hauled it off to Groups (a dark corner where no one can find it) and they send out nastygrams if you discuss anything worth discussing here. There are now more CPM Board users on the Soapbox than there are here, which is exactly what I'd predicted. In fact there are more CPM Board users in my non-eBay private seller's forum, and that isn't even geared towards coins at all. Similar crackdowns have rendered the CFe Group just as inactive and useless. This isn't el heron's fault, it's Jeff Terrell's fault, and it is just how he likes it.