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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Several John Le Carre first editions (London printings) would make the list:



1961 - Call For The Dead


1962 - A Murder Of Quality



Also, J.K. Rowling's first HP book, Bloomsbury printing:



1997 - Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Stan, I just like accuracy - especially when giving prices without references.  I guess I'm just more accustomed to twelve hundred than twelve thousand:



http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1085437783&searchurl=bi%3D0%26bx%3Doff%26ds%3D30%26recentlyadded%3Dall%26sortby%3D1%26sts%3Dt%26tn%3DWhere%2BThe%2BWild%2BThings%2BAre%26x%3D39%26y%3D2%26yrh%3D1963%26yrl%3D1963



ABE currently shows 72 copies of the 1963 edition of Wild Things for sale including second states, mixed states and "early editions."



Can you give us pointers to the auction records at these prices, because I'm just not finding them in ABPC - I'm seeing prices realised as fractions of these numbers.



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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Harrington has a clipped first issue of Green Eggs And Ham offered for $4,800. Another first issue is offered at $2,500 (closed tear on DJ). The other copies on the market are later issues.



Two copies does not constitute flooding.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Joe: You are the argumentative type. **** Sigh! **** Oh, what the heck, I'll argue back:



I find four first issue Where The Wild Things Are in VG/VG or better condition, priced at $25,000, $20,000, $12,500, and $11,900.



Four does not constitute flooding.



I find two first issue Wrinkle in Time in VG/VG or better condition, priced at $9,500 and $8,800.



Two does not constigute flooding.



I find two first issue Phantom Tollbooths in VG/VG or better condition, priced at $4,000 and $3,300. Another first issue is offered at $3,000 however has a chunk missing from the DJ. A second issue is offered for $2,500.



Two does not constitute flooding.


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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Joe: Not really. The estimates I gave in Post#2 were mid-market retail for VG+ copies, which high-end booksellers would offer for 50-100% higher. 'Fine' copies would sell for considerably higher.





Then there sure are a lot of bargain-priced books currently flooding the market at the retail level, and the book auction records reveal even bigger bargains.



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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Could someone please advise on the trade edition Cormac McCarthy first edition books with a market value in excess of $2,000? I don't know his titles very well.



Also, do any Stephen King, Grisham, Ludlum, etc... (i.e. the pop stars of Publisher's Weekly) books - trade edition! - have market values which routinely sell for over $2,000? I know some of their limited, signed, numbered, slipcased issues have higher values, but not so much the trade editions.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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and the prices quoted in his four examples are prices at which only JoAnn or Helen and Mark could sell these books - and then only were they absolutely pristine.





Joe: Not really. The estimates I gave in Post#2 were mid-market retail for VG+ copies, which high-end booksellers would offer for 50-100% higher. 'Fine' copies would sell for considerably higher.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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1951 - Catcher In The Rye; J.D. Salinger: >$5,000



1980 - Confederacy of Dunces; John Kennedy Toole; >$5,000


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1960 - To Kill A Mockingbird; Harper Lee: >$10,000

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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A couple of Isacc Asimov's novels would make the list:



1950 - I, Robot: ~$4,000 - $7,000


1951 - Foundation ~ $4,000 - $7,000

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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1953 - Casino Royale, Ian Fleming; ~ $25,000 - $30,000





The most recent sold (i.e. not passed) copy to come to auction was Lot 930 at Bloomies' 12 December, 2008 sale, sold at £5,000:



http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6031536



A few months prior to that, a copy sold at Sotheby's in a lot with a Fine First of Diamonds are Forever on 17 July, 2008 at £11,250:



http://www.liveauctioneers.com/sothebys/item/702473



The passed lot at Bonham's this Spring was estimated at £5000 and didn't draw an opening bid at 80% (which would have been roughly $7500 US with the premium had it sold).



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1957 - Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand: ~$5,000

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First printings of J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings trilogy would make the list (@ ~$5,000 to $10,000)



1954 - Fellowship of the Ring


1954 - The Two Towers


1955 - Return of the King

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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As a matter of fact, all the Ian Fleming James Bond novels would probably make the list of most valuable books published since 1950, with values in excess of $5,000:



1954 - Live And Let Die


1955 - Moonraker


1956 - Diamonds Are Forever


1957 - From Russia With Love


1958 - Dr. No


1959 - Goldfinger


1961 - Thunderball


1962 - The Spy Who Loved Me


1963 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service


1964 - You Only Live Twice


1965 - Man With The Golden Gun

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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1953 - Casino Royale, Ian Fleming; ~ $25,000 - $30,000


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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Well of course it's a perception. And yes, it is about whether books will sell or not. I kinda don't follow your post at all.



and P.S. --- it is "affidavit", I believe. Not "affadavit".



Sorry, picture*books, I think I caused your thread to derail a bit.





Reading the original post, I don't see where Stan was asking about setting prices at which books have already sold (or he'd probably has said, "please give the auction particulars..."), and the prices quoted in his four examples are prices at which only JoAnn or Helen and Mark coul;d sell these books - and then only were they absolutely pristine.   His post was just an helpful effort to provide a comprehensive answer to this question:




http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Booksellers/Valuable-Books/5200051590




However, having provided a link to the proper ABE search from which such a list can be easily and quickly compiled, I'll simply butt out.



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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Well of course it's a perception. And yes, it is about whether books will sell or not. I kinda don't follow your post at all.  


 


and P.S. --- it is "affidavit", I believe. Not "affadavit".


 


Sorry, picture*books, I think I caused your thread to derail a bit.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Of course they are listed there! -- doesn't mean they will sell.



Thinkin', I am thinkin', ya got me thinkin'.





This isn't about whether they'll sell or not - it's a list of the most expensive books printed from 1950 forward.  Any prices other than auction records or affadavits of Private Treaty are superfluous in any event - unlike precious metals, stocks, bonds or squirrels, used books have no value as such - it's simply a perception.



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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Of course they are listed there! -- doesn't mean they will sell.


 


Thinkin', I am thinkin', ya got me thinkin'.

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Re: Most Valuable Books - Published Since 1950

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Well, drat!  I read the last couple of posts and I obviously need to do more research.



BUT --- that being said --- ABE is not the be all and end all.  I see many, many, many mistakes there.





There are mistakes everywhere.  That notwithstanding, 99% of the books which would appear on any such list will be listed on ABE.  For books for sale in the retail marketplace, it is, indeed, the be-all and end-all.



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