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Bears and Plush

Hi all!  First I want to say thank you for any help!  I do believe both of these bears are antique.  But I know very, very little about teddy bears (other than I like them).  Both of these bears are mohair.  Both are stuffed with excelsior.  The smaller one has a very pronounced snout and hump.  The smaller one also has no paw pads.  Both are jointed at the neck, shoulders, and hips.  The smaller one has shoe button eyes the other has glass.  I think the paw pads may have been replaced on the larger one, although I really don't know.  The feet pads seem to be reinforced underneath with cardboard.  Neither has a growler, as far as I can tell.  As much as they seem antique, I know there are very good artists out there capable of making authentic looking "antique" bears.  So I turn to the knowledgable experts, enthusiasts, and collectors here for help.  Thank you again SO much!!  Oh!  The bears are 10" and 13".  :-)

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