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Posts: 4,984
Registered: ‎03-12-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to robertjoesshed

robertjoesshed wrote:

Everyone has options. Just be sure the best option is right for you??? Must be a woman. Not that theres anything wrong with that. I love women. Women support me everywhere. Especially when they post below this link: http://announcements.ebay.com/2016/03/sellers-lower-usps-first-class-rates-coming-april-10/. Lower rates coming soon!!! That is sweet...I like it!


lovethose49ers wrote:

robertjoesshed wrote:

Some of us live out in the country where the USPS still operates under rural dictation. Hence, the standing in line to drop off your outgoing packages. Rates were increased but service was not not. Even though the price of gas, diesel etc. was dropped, the post office still increased their prices accordingly without adding anything to service. Where do you you suppose the USPS spends that money?


argon-4 wrote:
If you're printing your own shipping labels, why are you standing in line at the post office? Why are you even going there?

 


http://announcements.ebay.com/2016/03/sellers-lower-usps-first-class-rates-coming-april-10/

 

@robertjoesshed


 


Well aren't you mr. cool.Smiley Very Happy

 

Everyone has options. Just be sure the best option is right for you"

 

That is called a signature line. ^^^ It's on all my post

 

 

I seen you were referring to postage rate, and was giving you info that the prices are changing yet again.

I shall now give info to the people that want the info, or whenever I want. Smiley Indifferent


Everyone has options. Just be sure the best option is right for you.
Community Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎05-08-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to lovethose49ers

Everyone has options. Just be sure the best option is right for you??? Must be a woman. Not that theres anything wrong with that. I love women. Women support me everywhere. Especially when they post below this link: http://announcements.ebay.com/2016/03/sellers-lower-usps-first-class-rates-coming-april-10/. Lower rates coming soon!!! That is sweet...I like it!


lovethose49ers wrote:

robertjoesshed wrote:

Some of us live out in the country where the USPS still operates under rural dictation. Hence, the standing in line to drop off your outgoing packages. Rates were increased but service was not not. Even though the price of gas, diesel etc. was dropped, the post office still increased their prices accordingly without adding anything to service. Where do you you suppose the USPS spends that money?


argon-4 wrote:
If you're printing your own shipping labels, why are you standing in line at the post office? Why are you even going there?

 


http://announcements.ebay.com/2016/03/sellers-lower-usps-first-class-rates-coming-april-10/

 

@robertjoesshed


 

Community Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎05-08-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to lester_li

I guess when power corrupts, it's up to the people to take a stand. Isn't that what we're doing here? EBay is in competition with Amazon, Wal-mart, the Chisese and everyone else who has a better business model than they do. Trying to compete and pincing the buyers and sellers alike fuels this fight! If eBay wants to compepte, tell them to look at their competitors and compete there. Not to pit sellers against buyers and ignore the fact that the Chinese, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, Amazon, Toledo, Harbor Freight, Target, Shop411, Uline, Wayfair, Bic Warehouse, Jet.com, Staples, Warehouse, and at least 1 million other places all do the same business. I'm telling everyone here...EBay was a starting point. not and end to the means the people are expecting.


lester_li wrote:

Hello everyone,

This thread is getting a bit heated. It would be appreciated if everyone would take a moment to read and follow the Discussion Boards Usage Policy and Community Content Policy when posting. Please remember that interpersonal disputes are not allowed here on the community. It is fine to disagree with others and to have friendly debates, but it should always remain courteous and respectful.

Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.


 

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Registered: ‎03-12-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to robertjoesshed

robertjoesshed wrote:

Some of us live out in the country where the USPS still operates under rural dictation. Hence, the standing in line to drop off your outgoing packages. Rates were increased but service was not not. Even though the price of gas, diesel etc. was dropped, the post office still increased their prices accordingly without adding anything to service. Where do you you suppose the USPS spends that money?


argon-4 wrote:
If you're printing your own shipping labels, why are you standing in line at the post office? Why are you even going there?

 


http://announcements.ebay.com/2016/03/sellers-lower-usps-first-class-rates-coming-april-10/

 

@robertjoesshed


Everyone has options. Just be sure the best option is right for you.
Community Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎05-08-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to argon-4

Some of us live out in the country where the USPS still operates under rural dictation. Hence, the standing in line to drop off your outgoing packages. Rates were increased but service was not not. Even though the price of gas, diesel etc. was dropped, the post office still increased their prices accordingly without adding anything to service. Where do you you suppose the USPS spends that money?


argon-4 wrote:
If you're printing your own shipping labels, why are you standing in line at the post office? Why are you even going there?

 

Community Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎05-08-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to billso_0

must be a lousy big store guy thinking theres a competition on with a guy who has one item to sell. I guess there should be when individual buyers and sellers determine the cost of things, not the chinese and big stores. Or do they! There should be two eBay's. one called wal-eBay (let Wal-Mart talk to these idiots) and one for normal people who like to trade without hassels like eBay ripping us off for shipping. Your right, eBay is trying to compete. Trouble is, before eBay has it figgured it out the chisese and Ali Baba / Ali Express are going to be here and gone (they're here now) before anyone knows it. Anyone who gripes and complains about ebay and its fees are behind the curve. Ebay is headed south. Everyone should have been looking for alternatives a year or more ago. EBay has been. They decided pincing buyers and sellers both was the way to go. So, eBay people shouldn't be bickering among themselves. If your still here its your own dumb fault. EBay has been irretating buyers and sellers for years. I saw this coming. I dont sell anything on eBay anymore. Amazon is way too popular and trustworthy where eBay is the old Craigslist. And the Chisese are reinventing the wheel eBay left run away from them. I'm not for either eBay buyer or sellers sides


billso_0 wrote:
"Ebay just gave me $40 allowance to ship an item that costs $!50 to ship."

You had no trouble charging $125 to ship that amp. BTW, if your item 'needs service' and you don't want returns, don't list it as 'Used'.

Some people are their own worst enemy.


. Just saying if your still committed to eBay your a little backward. spend your energy on the alternatives, the future. EBay has been here to long, its time for a replacement and those replacements are pincing eBay. All this from a US based seller...Who'd a thunk it...right?

Community Member
Posts: 46
Registered: ‎03-11-2016

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd
"Ebay just gave me $40 allowance to ship an item that costs $!50 to ship."

You had no trouble charging $125 to ship that amp. BTW, if your item 'needs service' and you don't want returns, don't list it as 'Used'.

Some people are their own worst enemy.
Community Member
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎01-21-2016

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to madison_auto

I take the loss on Shipping Every single time I do a transaction...I am sick of it.

Ebay just gave me $40 allowance to ship an item that costs $!50 to ship.

Ebay sucks.

Charging a final value fee for shipping is criminal.

They want us to ship free to compete with Amazon.

There has got to be an easier way.

Community Member
Posts: 80
Registered: ‎03-03-2016

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd
If you're printing your own shipping labels, why are you standing in line at the post office? Why are you even going there?
Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-25-2007

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to kferro

Shipping labels have a cost, My printer ink is so expensive I hand write my Sales order sheet.  2 weeks ago USPS raised Priorioy Mail Raes at least 0.50 cents across the board. Now it costs $13.85 to mail 1-2 pounds to California, when I see to shipping costs for the buyer I cringe, knowing my item is going to be hard to sell.  The eBay comes in like a school yard Bully each and every sale I make. Bubble wrap, shipping Peanuts, travel to Post Office to stand in close to an hour each visit. My state wants me to pay Taxes on my  sales. And I still use gasoline to drive to the post office. I drop $30 to $60 dollars at the P.O. if that doesn't seem like much I spend 440-$50 grocery shopping.  A Hundred dollor day for Mr. no body eBayer. Don't look at your monthly invoice, save on Peptobizmal. 

Moderator
Posts: 502
Registered: ‎02-03-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to bronx-dog

Hello everyone,

This thread is getting a bit heated. It would be appreciated if everyone would take a moment to read and follow the Discussion Boards Usage Policy and Community Content Policy when posting. Please remember that interpersonal disputes are not allowed here on the community. It is fine to disagree with others and to have friendly debates, but it should always remain courteous and respectful.

Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.

Community Member
Posts: 7,277
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to madison_auto

madison, you should make your suggestion straight to eBay. The link below is to eBay's

Weekly Chat, which usually happens every Wednesday at 1:00pm Pacific Time. You will

have direct access to an eBay employee...

 

http://community.ebay.com/t5/Weekly-Chat-with-eBay-Staff/bd-p/weekly-chat

Community Member
Posts: 7,277
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to madison_auto

madison_auto wrote:

 

Is this really all this community has to offer?  No rah-rah support for changing obviously atypical business practices?  Instead, we all just roll-over, play dumb, and say "well, that's the way Ebay does things".  Really?



madison, this thread was started in 2011 and has accumulated over 500 posts, of which most clearly

voice displeasure with the Fee Structure. One thing you have to realize is that eBay does not read

what is posted here and even if they did, it wouldn't make a difference. I don't know what you expect

this Board to offer. We don't make policy, nor do we even have any influence on policy... we simply

try to make eBay work for us, in spite of itself.

 


madison_auto wrote:

 

Then there's the unnecessary response from the 'whaaaambulence' about what's being said as "uncalled for".  Your implicit acceptance is what's uncalled for.  You guys should be angry; you should be fired up.  You should be demanding that Ebay integrate a calculated shipping option that appears as Free Shipping on the user-end.  

 


Do you find it necessary to insult everyone who you feel does not share your opinion? Like I said, you are late to the party,

this Fee was implemented five years ago, there was huge push back on all of the boards. Many demanded that eBay revoke

the policy... guess what, eBay does what eBay wants to do... Really.

 

You seem to believe that we are all thrilled about the fees and are happily complicit in blindly accepting them. That is not

true. None of us were happy when we first read the Announcement and we haven't become any happier over five years later.

The other thing that gets really old are the new posters who, without familiarizing themselves with the eBay's Fee Structures,

post to this thread as to their absolute shock about what they are being charged... the fees aren't hidden under a huge rock in

Yosimite, they are readily available for all to read, then one can decide if they want to sell here or not.

 


madison_auto wrote:

 

THAT would absolve the issues, but why hasn't anything been done?  Because we got people like bronx-dog just accepting the status quo, continually forking up his shipping fees because it's an easy cashflow for Ebay.

Yup madison... it's all my fault. Show me one of my posts where I said,  I liked this Fee... you know nothing of how I feel.

Listing on eBay is an option, following the rules and paying the fees are not. If you don't like, don't list... pretty simple.

 

So madison, as opposed to insults, how do you suggest fixing this disaster, which you claim I created???

 

Community Member
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎02-17-2016

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to bronx-dog

 

Is this really all this community has to offer?  No rah-rah support for changing obviously atypical business practices?  Instead, we all just roll-over, play dumb, and say "well, that's the way Ebay does things".  Really?

 

Then there's the unnecessary response from the 'whaaaambulence' about what's being said as "uncalled for".  Your implicit acceptance is what's uncalled for.  You guys should be angry; you should be fired up.  You should be demanding that Ebay integrate a calculated shipping option that appears as Free Shipping on the user-end.  

 

THAT would absolve the issues, but why hasn't anything been done?  Because we got people like bronx-dog just accepting the status quo, continually forking up his shipping fees because it's an easy cashflow for Ebay.

Community Member
Posts: 7,277
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to madison_auto

madison_auto wrote:

You're response is so telling.  Rather than refute any points I've made, you've made an appeal to higher authority in the name of corporate shilling, and of all things so haphazard, you place shareholder value above anything else.

 

It's pretty pathetic, actually, on your part.  The mere fact that you've admitted it's nothing more than money-making policy that benefits Ebay, and Ebay alone, only proves my point further.  Way to make yourself look like an idiot, though.


No, I don't place the shareholder value above everything else... eBay does.

As for my not refuting the points you've made, that is also a falicy, I did not

bother with most of your opinion, as I happened to agree with you, with the

exception of one point you stated, so don't look for arguements that aren't there...


madison_auto wrote:

Shipping doesn't create value, it's an operating cost.  Therefore, it's not part of Total Value.


Again, our shipping costs, whether charged separately, or built into our listing price with Free Shipping

are of great value to eBay. I'm not saying I like it, or condone it... I am simply saying that there is a value

to eBay, which they are capitalizing on. As for your comment about me being an idiot... thank you, very nice.

Community Member
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎02-17-2016

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

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in reply to bronx-dog

bronx-dog wrote:

 Really... tell that to the dipwads who were selling a PS3 for 99¢ and charging $300 in shipping to avoid paying their eBay Fees.

That abuse spawned the need for eBay Management to cover their interests... then some bean counter, in eBay Accounting,

suggested that the Fee be applied to every single transaction... whether it be by the crooks who were ripping off eBay, or honest

sellers who played by the rules. Management ran the numbers and that bean counter is now a VP with company car and a corner office.

As for your opinion that, "Shipping doesn't create value"... I'm sure eBay's share holders would argue that opinion...

our shipping costs, whether built into our selling price, or charged separately, are of great value to eBay.

Again... it is a Universal Fee Increase and it is making way too much money for eBay to ever be repealed.


 

 

You're response is so telling.  Rather than refute any points I've made, you've made an appeal to higher authority in the name of corporate shilling, and of all things so haphazard, you place shareholder value above anything else.

 

It's pretty pathetic, actually, on your part.  The mere fact that you've admitted it's nothing more than money-making policy that benefits Ebay, and Ebay alone, only proves my point further.

Community Member
Posts: 7,277
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to madison_auto

madison_auto wrote:
Shipping doesn't create value, it's an operating cost.  Therefore, it's not part of Total Value.

 


Really... tell that to the dipwads who were selling a PS3 for 99¢ and charging $300 in shipping to avoid paying their eBay Fees.

That abuse spawned the need for eBay Management to cover their interests... then some bean counter, in eBay Accounting,

suggested that the Fee be applied to every single transaction... whether it be by the crooks who were ripping off eBay, or honest

sellers who played by the rules. Management ran the numbers and that bean counter is now a VP with company car and a corner office.

 

As for your opinion that, "Shipping doesn't create value"... I'm sure eBay's share holders would argue that opinion...

our shipping costs, whether built into our selling price, or charged separately, are of great value to eBay.

 

Again... it is a Universal Fee Increase and it is making way too much money for eBay to ever be repealed.

 

 

Community Member
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎02-17-2016

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to bronx-dog

bronx-dog wrote:

The only thing foolish on this thread is it's title, the Final Value Fee is based on the Total Value

of the transaction, including Shipping, or anything else a seller decides to do to arrive at that total...

$20 widget + $5 Shipping is the same as,

$25 widget with Free Shipping, which is the same as,

$1 widget with $24 Shipping.

it is an all encompassing Fee Increase... is that soooooo hard a concept to grasp?


 

 

Shipping doesn't create value, it's an operating cost.  Therefore, it's not part of Total Value.  You don't tax before EBIT on an Income Statement, do you?  No, because only an idiot would do that, and that's what Ebay is doing.  They're "taxing" a necessary cost of doing business, which is customarily included in the COGS.  

 

No value can be extracted from this.  Problem is, Ebay doesn't know what most people are charging for shipping, because they have yet to develop a cost-for-shipping within Free Shipping to determine those amounts.  And until they do this, those who do use Calculated shipping must suffer at the behest of those falling rank-and-file to the "MUST HAVE FREE SHIPPING" attitude that's being peddled around the internet.

Community Member
Posts: 7,277
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to rock_your_closet

rock_your_closet wrote:

Offering free shipping has the same net effect. No difference really. If you sell something for 20.00 and ship it for 5.00, your fvf on the shipping is .50 regardless of whether you call the 5.00 shipping or part of the purchase price...

 

I'm not fooled.


 

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The only thing foolish on this thread is it's title, the Final Value Fee is based on the Total Value

of the transaction, including Shipping, or anything else a seller decides to do to arrive at that total...

 

$20 widget + $5 Shipping is the same as,

$25 widget with Free Shipping, which is the same as,

$1 widget with $24 Shipping.

 

it is an all encompassing Fee Increase... is that soooooo hard a concept to grasp?

Community Member
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎03-26-2014

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to walkingboots

Offering free shipping has the same net effect. No difference really. If you sell something for 20.00 and ship it for 5.00, your fvf on the shipping is .50 regardless of whether you call the 5.00 shipping or part of the purchase price. Kinda dumb suggestion on the part of Ebay  customer service or else smart and manipulative. I'm with those who say Ebay should just remove fvf on shipping charges actually paid to postal services. This is very possible inn 2016, we do have computers, you know those quick calculating devices that make stuff like this as easy as adding 2+2=4. I'm not fooled.