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Community Member
Posts: 94
Registered: ‎10-25-2008

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to hidy-hoo

My new question is this:  Does eBay make businesses like Sothebys pay them for final value fees on shipping?  Also, Do these "big" businesses have the same standards apply when SNAD returns are filed?  Or do they get to use their own return policies? 

Community Member
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎09-20-2007

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to suncoin-fl

Yeah I have to wonder if some 'Deal' wasn't orchestrated by ebay with the Shippers that favors these Mega Sellers from overseas, while the little guy has to pay exorbitant shipping costs from our UNITED STATES Postal Service, and other shippers too?  

Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎02-06-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to witsende
-And you can't compete with China selling a $20 - $20 item for $3.00 "WITH FREE shipping"
The independant US based seller, (once eBays core) is getting the proverbial shaft
Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎02-06-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to theguitarpartsguy

"Ebay isn't the same place it used to be to sell"

 

Blame the Asian market! I'll bet my next 10% shipping fee that they dominate the seller market (especially in electronics) by 15% - 30% of eBay. Just check their feedBack counts. They range in the 100K's to millions.
I'm sure many other categories from shoelaces to heavy machinery is just as overloaded with Asian based sellers.
No, Ebay isn't the same anymore - your community garage sale on Craigslist will probably do better. But eBay has the worldwide coverage - really no competition out there!

Community Member
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎05-17-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to demarl2

In my case, Parcel Select $16.63. Everything else was more expensive.

Community Member
Posts: 681
Registered: ‎01-01-2009

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to goodie-hunter

goodie-hunter wrote:

 

Ebay isn't the same place it used to be to sell.  It's been redesigned for the big International sellers.

 

 

 

 I'm seeing less and less numbers of people viewing my items in recent years.  Many items seeing less than 10 views during a week.  Ebay isn't the same value it once was that's for sure.  


First part of your statement:  absolutely true.   It hasn't been for a while.

 

Second part of your statement:  do a search here on how to place higher in search results.  Your views will come back if you adjust your listings appropriately.  Mine have.

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Posts: 12
Registered: ‎09-20-2007

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd

The Final Value Fee for Shipping isn't ebay combating people who charge a higher amount for shipping, its ebay making sure they get their cut of the action, being its still basically the same 10% fee amount!  Its not actually a deterrent of any kind since the fee amount from the seller is the same no matter where it comes from.  

 
IN FACT, I'm guessing its actually becomes an incentive for smart sellers because any fees on shipping can then be written off easier as a business expense since its not on their own service.  

 

FVF for shipping is a fee that sellers never even see the gain from.  Its not on money that ever goes to a seller.  Again, its simply ebay getting their cut of the action.  

 

Ebay isn't the same place it used to be to sell.  It's been redesigned for the big International sellers.  I'm seeing less and less numbers of people viewing my items in recent years.  Many items seeing less than 10 views during a week.  Ebay isn't the same value it once was that's for sure.  

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Posts: 359
Registered: ‎02-04-2013

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to bronx-dog

Really, someone pays $5  for an item and pays $16 for shipping? I'd love to know what the shipping really cost and why it wasn't shipped using a cheaper service.

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Posts: 6,335
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to nathaweste

nathaweste wrote:
They charged me 11 bucks...

 

 

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Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-20-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd
This is so ridiculous. They charged me 11 bucks. I will absolutely never sell something on eBay again. And I can't get my money for 3 weeks? Never again.
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Posts: 3
Registered: ‎05-17-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd

I lost money too, they charged me $1.60 Final Value Fee on Shipping for a $5.00 item I sold.

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Posts: 3
Registered: ‎05-17-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd

I had to pay $1.60 Final Value Fee on Shipping for $5.00 item I sold. They should fire the executive who green lite this plan.

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-16-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd

I just sold a cooktop which cost me nearly $200 to send across the country, and I had to pay a fee on the $200 that I had to pay the carrier.  That is ridiculous!  If I had sold the item for only 10 bucks, I would have paid $21 to Ebay and lost money on the transaction!  As another member said, 99% of us who charge reasonable shipping fees should not be penalized by the 1% who try to bilk the system.  This is clearly a situation where Ebay increased revenues enormously by claiming that they were being cheated by all of their own members.  That's a really positive outlook on your users, Ebay!  In the future, I will definitely look for other selling options before unloading items that cost a lot to ship on Ebay. 

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Posts: 8,508
Registered: ‎05-18-2013

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to bronx-dog

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...and in the long standing tradition of the Part Time eBay Sellers Forum, we will be there to help!

 

                                                     



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Posts: 6,335
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to hidy-hoo

hidy-hoo wrote:
It's been almost 4 years and posters are still moaning and groaning about FVFs on shipping ~ SMH!

hidy, just wait till some of them realize they can't leave a Neut, or a Neg for a Buyer...

shares in Kleenex will go through the cieling.

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Posts: 8,508
Registered: ‎05-18-2013

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to bronx-dog

"above is a rewrite of what I stated in Post 141"

 

....and you posted that message (and an excellent one at that) on June 25, 2013!  This thread was started on August 12, 2011 ~ It's been almost 4 years and posters are still moaning and groaning about FVFs on shipping ~ SMH!



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Posts: 6,335
Registered: ‎01-20-2011

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to joellyos1

Fees were originally based on the selling price of the item and shipping fees were exempt of those fees. Many sellers clued in and started listing items of value, at a low BIN price with a cost of shipping that was more reflective of the true value the seller wanted. Due to the change, you won't be seeing any PlayStation 4's at a BIN price of 99 cents and Shipping of $300.00.

 

At some point, there was an eBay Management meeting where the lost revenue on such sales was discussed. There was a loophole and it had to be dealt with. One of the folks in the meeting suggested simply charging the Final Value Fees on the total sale in such obvious cases of abuse... management was very happy with that suggestion. Then, another employee, who was probably immediately promoted to VP, suggested that if the FVF on Shipping was applied to all sales, not only will we close the costly loophole, but we can sneak in a fee increase while stating, "it is in the best interest of Buyers"... management ran the numbers and... well... Rumor has it, that they are still mopping out the Board room.

 

The FVF on Shipping is an across the board Fee increase, nothing more, nothing less. All fees are posted and should not be a surprise to anyone here. As for Free Shipping, if you buy from most of us here, that shipping is not free, it's built into our selling price... as are, all of our eBay Fees.

 

above is a rewrite of what I stated in Post 141

Community Member
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-21-2008

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to a.best.buy
Agree 100%. I don't understand the reasoning (other than the obvious greed). If their reason is that 1% of the sellers are avoiding the selling fee, by charging a fortune for shipping, then why punish 99% of your customers? Makes no sense (other than greed of course). Shaking my head.
Community Member
Posts: 94
Registered: ‎10-25-2008

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to heyou9

Will they actually refund you the difference between what they charged for this ridiculous fee and what the actual shipping charge was?  How long does this process take?  I have noticed that they are charging me for a final value on shipping as soon as the item sells based upon their very general shipping calculator without waiting for me to actually purchase and print the shipping labels.  This means that they have seriously overcharged me! I have found, though, that recently if I offer free shipping they do not charge me a final value fee on shipping and I still get the shipping discount when I print the label.

Community Member
Posts: 218
Registered: ‎04-28-2015

Re: Final Value Fee For Shipping????

in reply to coloradojudd
"Taxes for shipping is illegal, because you're taxing a service--right?"

It's a fee paid to ebay, not a tax, so I don't see the relevance of taxes in this thread.